Windows 7 & Original UT

brdempsey69 · 3rd Nov 2009, 04:50 AM

If you hit this link below, it pretty much sums up the sound issues that UT has with Creative X-Fi Sound cards in general in Windows 7.

http://forums.creative.com/t5/Sound-...-7/td-p/540228

I know what you are thinking: Either get a different sound card ( forget it -- not happening, no fanboism either, it's just that the sound displacement in original UT, on any properly working X-Fi, stomps all over every game out there -- no game had better sounds & music, & voices than original UT ) or forsake Windows 7 and run UT on good old Windows XP ( probably the more likely scenario, although I'd rather not, Microsux did address the OpenGL issue in Windows 7 & OpenGL works far better in Windows 7 than Vista) .

I hope that many of you will add to my voice over there, assuming you own a Creative sound card & want to play UT on Windows 7. I've tried the Fmod, but it don't work.

Raven · 3rd Nov 2009, 07:57 AM

I have Windows 7 x64 (build 7057) and Audigy 2 and I have absolutely no problems with UT. Maybe download Creative ALchemy Universal and see if it fix sound issues (it fixed sound issues in .bik files in UT3 and it might work also for UT). Also try OpenAL and change ALDevices (for OpenAL) and FMODDevices (for FMod) maybe it'll fix all errors.

darkmedor · 3rd Nov 2009, 08:39 AM

Windows 7 x64 whase just incompatible with UTDC21

War_Master · 3rd Nov 2009, 09:01 AM

When I installed UT on WinXP the sound was totally awful. A friend had the same problem and did some searching about a fix and got it fixed by changing the latency in the ini file. See if that does something for your game because it fixed mine as well.

I changed it from 40 to 120...

[Galaxy.GalaxyAudioSubsystem]
Latency=120

darkmedor, I don't know if Win7 lets you set programs to be compatable with older Win OS, but if it does try running UT with Windows 2000 compatibility to see if that helps.

Raynor.Z · 3rd Nov 2009, 11:33 AM

Latency 120 is IMO too much, 60 is enough. Besides that issue I never experienced any other sound problems with my X-Fi - not under Vista, not with 7.
TBH I have not bothered to mess with EAX effects anyway and limited with standard Galaxy audio driver tweaks.

darkmedor · 3rd Nov 2009, 01:56 PM

Me i'm on win xpsp3 with no error

but for Windows 7 x64 it can't play on utdc21 server protected http://www.unrealadmin.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=29179

Raynor.Z · 3rd Nov 2009, 02:19 PM

Updated UTDC should be released in near future that would supposedly fix this issue.

Ghoulz · 3rd Nov 2009, 02:58 PM

That's the lameness of upgrading.

UT runs fine for me on Vista, for having no graphic enhancements added to my machine.

SkaarjMaster · 3rd Nov 2009, 05:34 PM

I'll probably be getting Win7 in a couple years.....let's hope these issues are ironed out by then. If I have to use one of my old Audigy2 cards, then so be it.

brdempsey69 · 3rd Nov 2009, 10:57 PM

SkaarjMaster is right. Windows 7 needs more time. I'm going back to Windows XP 64-bit.

Arnox · 14th Nov 2009, 03:45 PM

Well, if you have windows 7 professional or higher, you can access Windows XP mode which is just pretty much Windows XP on a virtual machine. You could, maybe, run UT in that.

UBerserker · 14th Nov 2009, 04:16 PM

My UT runs perfectly on Windows 7.

Leo(T.C.K.) · 14th Nov 2009, 05:16 PM

Actually there is even issue with Unreal2, with the flyby not working working right on win Vista and Windows 7. And no compatibility mode helps that...

brdempsey69 · 14th Nov 2009, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnox

Well, if you have windows 7 professional or higher, you can access Windows XP mode which is just pretty much Windows XP on a virtual machine. You could, maybe, run UT in that.

Nope, XP mode will not run UT. It just crashes to the desktop. With my particular hardware group, XP Pro 64-bit is what works best. I can even get Full-Scene Anti-Aliasing in UT3. Can't do that in Vista or Windows 7. And Windows 7 doesn't like my 21-inch CRT monitor.

I'll stick with what works for now. Down the road, in a couple of years, when the hardware & software vendors catch up with Windows 7, then I'll make the move to it.

SkaarjMaster · 14th Nov 2009, 09:51 PM

"Windows 7 doesn't like my 21-inch CRT monitor"

Um, yeh, it looks like Windows7 has some bugs that need to be fixed in Win7SP1.

Azura · 14th Nov 2009, 10:04 PM

I dropped Creative a few years ago. Their cards were good to start with but things went downhill with the driver software when they released the sound blaster live 5.1 and audigy. It was at the point where the card would perform better with a third party driver. Even if the X-Fi is a nice card, I'd either drop the company or point the finger where the blame belongs which is with the software side of the business.

brdempsey69 · 15th Nov 2009, 03:37 AM

I can tell you all this much. When people are posting over at the Creative threads that are titled "A retarded ape could make a better driver", then you know there's some unhappy campers.

Windows 7 is not leaps & bounds ahead of XP, at least I couldn't see anything. Maybe a couple of service packs will make it worthwhile to move on to in a couple of years.

We could use an updated sound driver for UT. Galaxy has been good for many years, but it would be nice to have a legit & fully working OpenAL sound driver for UT.

Defeat · 15th Nov 2009, 06:17 AM

My UT works fine on my Windows 7 x64 install and I have an X-Fi card. Then again, I don't care about EAX :X

UBerserker · 15th Nov 2009, 07:09 AM

In either old XP and W7, I always stick with Galaxy. OpenAL worked like ****, while FMod crashed frequently. I really don't care about having good sounds/music in UT to be honest as I was never a fan of them (unlike U1 and UT3).

Leo(T.C.K.) · 15th Nov 2009, 11:12 AM

FMod was incompatible with some music and sounds, so yeah...it would help if SMirftsch released some new OMP patches.

3rd Nov 2009, 04:50 AM	#1
brdempsey69 Original UT Owns !! Join Date: Jun. 19th, 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 253	Windows 7 & Original UT If you hit this link below, it pretty much sums up the sound issues that UT has with Creative X-Fi Sound cards in general in Windows 7. http://forums.creative.com/t5/Sound-...-7/td-p/540228 I know what you are thinking: Either get a different sound card ( forget it -- not happening, no fanboism either, it's just that the sound displacement in original UT, on any properly working X-Fi, stomps all over every game out there -- no game had better sounds & music, & voices than original UT ) or forsake Windows 7 and run UT on good old Windows XP ( probably the more likely scenario, although I'd rather not, Microsux did address the OpenGL issue in Windows 7 & OpenGL works far better in Windows 7 than Vista) . I hope that many of you will add to my voice over there, assuming you own a Creative sound card & want to play UT on Windows 7. I've tried the Fmod, but it don't work. __________________ A+ Certified Computer Technician

3rd Nov 2009, 07:57 AM	#2
Raven Registered User Join Date: Jan. 17th, 2004 Posts: 144	I have Windows 7 x64 (build 7057) and Audigy 2 and I have absolutely no problems with UT. Maybe download Creative ALchemy Universal and see if it fix sound issues (it fixed sound issues in .bik files in UT3 and it might work also for UT). Also try OpenAL and change ALDevices (for OpenAL) and FMODDevices (for FMod) maybe it'll fix all errors. __________________ my personal wiki

3rd Nov 2009, 08:39 AM	#3
darkmedor Registered User Join Date: Mar. 15th, 2009 Posts: 82	Windows 7 x64 whase just incompatible with UTDC21 __________________ http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/online/ http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/utfiles/ http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/u...rnament-V3.exe http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/forum/

3rd Nov 2009, 11:33 AM	#5
Raynor.Z Ad Nocendum Potentes Sumus Join Date: Feb. 1st, 2006 Posts: 867	Latency 120 is IMO too much, 60 is enough. Besides that issue I never experienced any other sound problems with my X-Fi - not under Vista, not with 7. TBH I have not bothered to mess with EAX effects anyway and limited with standard Galaxy audio driver tweaks. __________________ Unreal Tournament Tweak Guide For those willing to build a mountain of bodies and climb to the top. In environments that stun. Against A.I. that kills. For those willing to stake their lives in the persuit of victory... we salute you.

3rd Nov 2009, 01:56 PM	#6
darkmedor Registered User Join Date: Mar. 15th, 2009 Posts: 82	Me i'm on win xpsp3 with no error but for Windows 7 x64 it can't play on utdc21 server protected http://www.unrealadmin.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=29179 __________________ http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/online/ http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/utfiles/ http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/u...rnament-V3.exe http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/forum/ Last edited by darkmedor; 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:58 PM.

3rd Nov 2009, 09:01 AM	#4
War_Master Registered User Join Date: May. 27th, 2005 Posts: 525	When I installed UT on WinXP the sound was totally awful. A friend had the same problem and did some searching about a fix and got it fixed by changing the latency in the ini file. See if that does something for your game because it fixed mine as well. I changed it from 40 to 120... [Galaxy.GalaxyAudioSubsystem] Latency=120 darkmedor, I don't know if Win7 lets you set programs to be compatable with older Win OS, but if it does try running UT with Windows 2000 compatibility to see if that helps.

3rd Nov 2009, 02:19 PM	#7
Raynor.Z Ad Nocendum Potentes Sumus Join Date: Feb. 1st, 2006 Posts: 867	Updated UTDC should be released in near future that would supposedly fix this issue. __________________ Unreal Tournament Tweak Guide For those willing to build a mountain of bodies and climb to the top. In environments that stun. Against A.I. that kills. For those willing to stake their lives in the persuit of victory... we salute you.

3rd Nov 2009, 02:58 PM	#8
Ghoulz Registered User Join Date: Feb. 7th, 2009 Posts: 91	That's the lameness of upgrading. UT runs fine for me on Vista, for having no graphic enhancements added to my machine.

3rd Nov 2009, 05:34 PM	#9
SkaarjMaster looks like the Grinch Join Date: Sep. 1st, 2000 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,790	I'll probably be getting Win7 in a couple years.....let's hope these issues are ironed out by then. If I have to use one of my old Audigy2 cards, then so be it. __________________

3rd Nov 2009, 10:57 PM	#10
brdempsey69 Original UT Owns !! Join Date: Jun. 19th, 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 253	SkaarjMaster is right. Windows 7 needs more time. I'm going back to Windows XP 64-bit. __________________ A+ Certified Computer Technician Last edited by brdempsey69; 4th Nov 2009 at 03:09 AM.

14th Nov 2009, 03:45 PM	#11
Arnox Registered Pwner Join Date: Mar. 26th, 2009 Posts: 40	Well, if you have windows 7 professional or higher, you can access Windows XP mode which is just pretty much Windows XP on a virtual machine. You could, maybe, run UT in that. __________________ Game Over Another casualty of advanced computer algorithms.

14th Nov 2009, 04:16 PM	#12
UBerserker Energize - Now and Forever! Join Date: Jan. 20th, 2008 Location: Bother someone else. Posts: 3,095	My UT runs perfectly on Windows 7. __________________ *UnrealSP.org Staff Member.* :: Sky Town Reduxx :: Xidia Gold :: Unreal Beta Guide ::

14th Nov 2009, 05:16 PM	#13
Leo(T.C.K.) Registered User Join Date: May. 14th, 2006 Posts: 1,805	Actually there is even issue with Unreal2, with the flyby not working working right on win Vista and Windows 7. And no compatibility mode helps that...

14th Nov 2009, 09:51 PM	#15
SkaarjMaster looks like the Grinch Join Date: Sep. 1st, 2000 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,790	"Windows 7 doesn't like my 21-inch CRT monitor" Um, yeh, it looks like Windows7 has some bugs that need to be fixed in Win7SP1. __________________

14th Nov 2009, 10:04 PM	#16
Azura Now with 85.26% less nonsense Join Date: Jul. 8th, 2002 Posts: 9,225	I dropped Creative a few years ago. Their cards were good to start with but things went downhill with the driver software when they released the sound blaster live 5.1 and audigy. It was at the point where the card would perform better with a third party driver. Even if the X-Fi is a nice card, I'd either drop the company or point the finger where the blame belongs which is with the software side of the business. __________________ (Hosted at imageshag so sig might not display) - Neonite rocks

15th Nov 2009, 03:37 AM	#17
brdempsey69 Original UT Owns !! Join Date: Jun. 19th, 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 253	I can tell you all this much. When people are posting over at the Creative threads that are titled "A retarded ape could make a better driver", then you know there's some unhappy campers. Windows 7 is not leaps & bounds ahead of XP, at least I couldn't see anything. Maybe a couple of service packs will make it worthwhile to move on to in a couple of years. We could use an updated sound driver for UT. Galaxy has been good for many years, but it would be nice to have a legit & fully working OpenAL sound driver for UT. __________________ A+ Certified Computer Technician Last edited by brdempsey69; 15th Nov 2009 at 03:41 AM.

15th Nov 2009, 06:17 AM	#18
Defeat GET EM WITH THE BACKSMACK WOOOOO Join Date: Apr. 2nd, 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,602	My UT works fine on my Windows 7 x64 install and I have an X-Fi card. Then again, I don't care about EAX :X __________________ "Timing power ups has been around since Halo 1" -Tom Taylor aka T-squared aka a professional Halo player Q3A kill message: HAY YOU JUST KILLED SOMEONE, HAVE FUN BEING KILLED NOW SINCE THIS MESSAGE IS HUGE DRW-Nemesis\|away> just wait for it 2 more months, and even x6 wouldn't able to beat the best TAM teams

15th Nov 2009, 07:09 AM	#19
UBerserker Energize - Now and Forever! Join Date: Jan. 20th, 2008 Location: Bother someone else. Posts: 3,095	In either old XP and W7, I always stick with Galaxy. OpenAL worked like **, while FMod crashed frequently. I really don't care about having good sounds/music in UT to be honest as I was never a fan of them (unlike U1 and UT3). __________________ UnrealSP.org Staff Member. :: Sky Town Reduxx :: Xidia Gold :: Unreal Beta Guide** ::

15th Nov 2009, 11:12 AM	#20
Leo(T.C.K.) Registered User Join Date: May. 14th, 2006 Posts: 1,805	FMod was incompatible with some music and sounds, so yeah...it would help if SMirftsch released some new OMP patches.

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