Client-side demos will never work.

T2A` · 11th Feb 2008, 10:35 PM

Probably.

http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=602115

Check WarTourist's post at the bottom.

How can something as simple as client-side demos stump them? Epic sucks. :/

Larkin · 11th Feb 2008, 10:41 PM

That's totally retarded.

Kantham · 11th Feb 2008, 10:41 PM

Yeah they screwed up big time, no big news...

*Sir_Brizz* · 12th Feb 2008, 12:40 AM

Client side demos have never worked properly in any Unreal game (except maybe UT with that demo mod... maybe). So this is no big surprise.

I don't understand the need to remove them completely though.

T2A` · 12th Feb 2008, 12:52 AM

Maybe they didn't work properly compared to other games, but in UT2004 they at least worked to the point that recording, watching, and movie-making was possible. Rypel Cam was a big help too. But to have no client-side support at all is just... sad.

Could this point to 1.2 being the last patch before they move on to something better?

*Sir_Brizz* · 12th Feb 2008, 01:09 AM

I doubt it. It just seems like there isn't much work done on client side demos at all. Maybe just a problem of UE3. Sounds like UT2003 maybe?

-AEnubis- · 12th Feb 2008, 01:13 AM

You know what's funny though, as much as I prefer the gameplay of UT3 to 2kx, I really haven't had that many moments I wish I could record, barring some warslaught games.

Kinda sad actually.

*Sir_Brizz* · 12th Feb 2008, 01:34 AM

I have them all the time when I actually play. Gotta love that Shaped Charge

Unknown Target · 12th Feb 2008, 01:39 AM

Don't see why it's so hard...other games get it done fine.

hyrulian · 12th Feb 2008, 02:03 AM

This is kinda a disappointment.

Brizz: Yeah, client-side demos were never perfect, but at least they worked quite good enough in UT and UT2k4. So horribly-broken client-side demos in UT3 seems to tell me they didn't spend the time to get it working. And it looks like they're just completely giving up on it now.

Lostsoul · 12th Feb 2008, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyrulian

And it looks like they're just completely giving up on it now.

Epic!, Never.

WarTourist · 12th Feb 2008, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir_Brizz

I don't understand the need to remove them completely though.

Hi Brizz. The feature wasn't removed, it's just not supported. In hindsight completely removing it may have made more sense since people "think" it works.

T2A` · 12th Feb 2008, 10:10 AM

In hindsight including working features that every other FPS game has would've been best.

*Sir_Brizz* · 12th Feb 2008, 10:30 AM

So client side demorec is there, it's just so broken that it's not useful...

WarTourist · 12th Feb 2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir_Brizz

So client side demorec is there, it's just so broken that it's not useful...

AKA = Not supported. There's no UI for it, but if you try to use console we didn't purposely remove those commands. That might have been the mistake.

dub · 12th Feb 2008, 11:01 AM

Out of curiosity, why are people saying that client side demo recording didn't work in UT 2004? It always worked for me. Maybe the replays were a bit buggy every so often but I had gigs of auto demo recordings which worked fine (and where almost equal to server side demos with the help of Rypel Cam). Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick here, somehow?

hilo_ · 12th Feb 2008, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarTourist

AKA = Not supported. There's no UI for it, but if you try to use console we didn't purposely remove those commands. That might have been the mistake.

When you say "not supported"... do you mean for now, or indefinitely? Is there a chance we could see this in a future patch?

UnrealGrrl · 12th Feb 2008, 01:46 PM

clientside demos were never perfect but we always had them and used them for making movies, helping to check for cheats, etc. its just another bizarre design decision to not have them working as least as much as they did before. movies and demos are some of the best fan publicity games get...

Festering Anus · 12th Feb 2008, 02:04 PM

Why can't you just update the engine so it DOES support it?

Cybro-Thing · 12th Feb 2008, 02:12 PM

so its not possible that somebody other than epic makes this stuff?

11th Feb 2008, 10:35 PM	#1
T2A` I'm dead. Join Date: Jan. 10th, 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 8,769	Client-side demos will never work. Probably. http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=602115 Check WarTourist's post at the bottom. How can something as simple as client-side demos stump them? Epic sucks. :/

11th Feb 2008, 10:41 PM	#2
Larkin Gone Join Date: Apr. 4th, 2006 Posts: 1,984	That's totally retarded. Last edited by Larkin; 11th Feb 2008 at 10:42 PM. Reason: opps, meant mad smiley

11th Feb 2008, 10:41 PM	#3
Kantham Fool. Join Date: Sep. 17th, 2004 Posts: 17,943	Yeah they screwed up big time, no big news... __________________

12th Feb 2008, 12:40 AM	#4
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	Client side demos have never worked properly in any Unreal game (except maybe UT with that demo mod... maybe). So this is no big surprise. I don't understand the need to remove them completely though. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

12th Feb 2008, 01:09 AM	#6
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	I doubt it. It just seems like there isn't much work done on client side demos at all. Maybe just a problem of UE3. Sounds like UT2003 maybe? __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

12th Feb 2008, 12:52 AM	#5
T2A` I'm dead. Join Date: Jan. 10th, 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 8,769	Maybe they didn't work properly compared to other games, but in UT2004 they at least worked to the point that recording, watching, and movie-making was possible. Rypel Cam was a big help too. But to have no client-side support at all is just... sad. Could this point to 1.2 being the last patch before they move on to something better?

12th Feb 2008, 01:13 AM	#7
-AEnubis- fps greater than star Join Date: Dec. 7th, 2000 Location: The Nicest Parts of Hell Posts: 3,232	You know what's funny though, as much as I prefer the gameplay of UT3 to 2kx, I really haven't had that many moments I wish I could record, barring some warslaught games. Kinda sad actually. __________________ There is no spam. -°- StartButton'd!

12th Feb 2008, 01:34 AM	#8
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	I have them all the time when I actually play. Gotta love that Shaped Charge __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

12th Feb 2008, 01:39 AM	#9
Unknown Target Registered User Join Date: Jan. 22nd, 2008 Posts: 264	Don't see why it's so hard...other games get it done fine.

12th Feb 2008, 02:03 AM	#10
hyrulian Rainbow Brite Join Date: May. 20th, 2001 Location: Chula Vista, CA Posts: 9,545	This is kinda a disappointment. Brizz: Yeah, client-side demos were never perfect, but at least they worked quite good enough in UT and UT2k4. So horribly-broken client-side demos in UT3 seems to tell me they didn't spend the time to get it working. And it looks like they're just completely giving up on it now. __________________ My Profiles: Facebook :: MySpace :: Steam My Photo Album :: FragBU Community Wiki :: IRC Quotes

12th Feb 2008, 10:10 AM	#13
T2A` I'm dead. Join Date: Jan. 10th, 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 8,769	In hindsight including working features that every other FPS game has would've been best.

12th Feb 2008, 10:30 AM	#14
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	So client side demorec is there, it's just so broken that it's not useful... __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

12th Feb 2008, 11:01 AM	#16
dub ‏ Join Date: Feb. 12th, 2002 Posts: 2,853	Out of curiosity, why are people saying that client side demo recording didn't work in UT 2004? It always worked for me. Maybe the replays were a bit buggy every so often but I had gigs of auto demo recordings which worked fine (and where almost equal to server side demos with the help of Rypel Cam). Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick here, somehow?

12th Feb 2008, 01:46 PM	#18
UnrealGrrl Enemy flag carrier is Her! Join Date: Jun. 16th, 2000 Posts: 1,684	clientside demos were never perfect but we always had them and used them for making movies, helping to check for cheats, etc. its just another bizarre design decision to not have them working as least as much as they did before. movies and demos are some of the best fan publicity games get... __________________ Sioux www.unrealgrrl.com

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Festering Anus Cheeto Hans Join Date: Mar. 16th, 2005 Location: Punch 100 babies to unlock the secret level Posts: 2,543	Why can't you just update the engine so it DOES support it? __________________

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Cybro-Thing Registered User Join Date: Feb. 4th, 2008 Location: The United States of Holland. Posts: 50	so its not possible that somebody other than epic makes this stuff?

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