Look at this!

29th Feb 2000, 07:08 PM

Why is it that when I run through this certain area (See pictures below), I and all the other bots "walk through it". Then at the end I fall through! Look at what I mean below:

Jenkins · 29th Feb 2000, 09:59 PM

Looks to me like it's a BSP problem. There isn't anything you can do, just hope you don't get them. You're lucky though, something like that happened to me before and I fell indefinately, your bots are just below the normal floor [img]/~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif[/img]

Jenkins

Jenkins · 29th Feb 2000, 10:00 PM

Looks to me like it's a BSP problem. There isn't anything you can do, just hope you don't get them. You're lucky though, something like that happened to me before and I fell indefinately, your bots are just below the normal floor [img]/~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif[/img]

Jenkins

1st Mar 2000, 02:54 AM

Well I found the BSP problem. One of my ramps was sticking into the floor so I deleted it and the problem was gone.

Jenkins · 1st Mar 2000, 04:28 PM

Damn BSP Holes... > [img]/~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif[/img]

Jenkins

1st Mar 2000, 05:15 PM

ya i know

RedShirtSlacker · 1st Mar 2000, 05:43 PM

This sort of BSP error ususally occurs when...

You've added and subtracted the same shape multiple times from one location, and/or have too many bsp cuts in one small isolated area of a larger Zone (like a small complex region of a generally non-complex zone).

And it also may be caused if you add a cube to make the height of your floor greater, but the added cube isn't properly aligned or develops a BSP hole, in that case you will fall through to the original floor (I have had this problem when intersecting many spheres to a flat floor to make terrain).

OR...

When the area in question is at the world origin point. This point is represented in Ued by 2 intersecting very dark gray lines. There should be 3 shades of gray for the grid, and the darkest are the world axises. For some reason, you can encounter VERY strange things at the world origin. I have one level where you get stuck at EXACTLY the WO point and no place else. I also have seen BSP errors for no particular reason at this point. Basically the WO is evil.

1st Mar 2000, 08:51 PM

The first problem you explained was my problem. I fixed it though so thanks.

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29th Feb 2000, 07:08 PM	#1
Silencermvm Guest Posts: n/a	Why is it that when I run through this certain area (See pictures below), I and all the other bots "walk through it". Then at the end I fall through! Look at what I mean below:

29th Feb 2000, 09:59 PM	#2
Jenkins America's Greatest Kitten Mitten Join Date: Apr. 24th, 2000 Location: Irving, Tx, USA Posts: 1,301	Looks to me like it's a BSP problem. There isn't anything you can do, just hope you don't get them. You're lucky though, something like that happened to me before and I fell indefinately, your bots are just below the normal floor [img]/~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif[/img] Jenkins

29th Feb 2000, 10:00 PM	#3
Jenkins America's Greatest Kitten Mitten Join Date: Apr. 24th, 2000 Location: Irving, Tx, USA Posts: 1,301	Looks to me like it's a BSP problem. There isn't anything you can do, just hope you don't get them. You're lucky though, something like that happened to me before and I fell indefinately, your bots are just below the normal floor [img]/~unreal/ubb/html/wink.gif[/img] Jenkins

1st Mar 2000, 02:54 AM	#4
Silencermvm Guest Posts: n/a	Well I found the BSP problem. One of my ramps was sticking into the floor so I deleted it and the problem was gone.

1st Mar 2000, 04:28 PM	#5
Jenkins America's Greatest Kitten Mitten Join Date: Apr. 24th, 2000 Location: Irving, Tx, USA Posts: 1,301	Damn BSP Holes... > [img]/~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif[/img] Jenkins

1st Mar 2000, 05:15 PM	#6
Silencermvm Guest Posts: n/a	ya i know

1st Mar 2000, 05:43 PM	#7
RedShirtSlacker Registered User Join Date: Jan. 16th, 2000 Location: Lapeer, MI, USA Posts: 70	This sort of BSP error ususally occurs when... You've added and subtracted the same shape multiple times from one location, and/or have too many bsp cuts in one small isolated area of a larger Zone (like a small complex region of a generally non-complex zone). And it also may be caused if you add a cube to make the height of your floor greater, but the added cube isn't properly aligned or develops a BSP hole, in that case you will fall through to the original floor (I have had this problem when intersecting many spheres to a flat floor to make terrain). OR... When the area in question is at the world origin point. This point is represented in Ued by 2 intersecting very dark gray lines. There should be 3 shades of gray for the grid, and the darkest are the world axises. For some reason, you can encounter VERY strange things at the world origin. I have one level where you get stuck at EXACTLY the WO point and no place else. I also have seen BSP errors for no particular reason at this point. Basically the WO is evil.

1st Mar 2000, 08:51 PM	#8
Silencermvm Guest Posts: n/a	The first problem you explained was my problem. I fixed it though so thanks.