Steve Polge about UT3 Expansion Pack

[cosmix]

"We've been keeping quiet about our upcoming UT3 plans because we've found it's better not to say anything when we aren't sure of the timing of upcoming releases. However, as Mark hinted, we have been working on a large update and expansion to UT3, and we'll be starting to talk more about it soon."

Found this at VE3D

Most interesting for me is that's an expansion and "a large update". I'm curious about it!

[Leo(T.C.K.)]

I seriously hope it will be not like this guy says:

A radical re-working would be nice, or maybe just a graphics update for Unreal Tournament 2004. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy Unreal Tournament III, but the earlier stuff is more enjoyable.

Otherwise it will be worse game for me............

[rAt.8^].bAg]

Translation:

"It could be vaporware or it could be done...uh...whenever! And it'll never be as good as we hype it to be. (Shhh...!) But ya'll hang in there!"

[JohnDoe641]

Originally Posted by rAt.8^].bAg

Translation:

"It could be vaporware or it could be done...uh...whenever! And it'll never be as good as we hype it to be. (Shhh...!) But ya'll hang in there!"

Yeah, hype sucks and when something is released it's usually an disappointment. I don't really care about any more content, fix the damn game. FIX IT. FFS

[GreatEmerald]

Originally Posted by JohnDoe641

FIX IT.

Originally Posted by DemoGuy

Take it!

Originally Posted by MonsOlympus

No hype? We've been hearing it all over the place from Epic people

Oh really? As far as I have counted, this has been mentioned... Three times! Woah! What a hype

[Wunderbar_007]

Sweet, can't wait

....I wonder how soon is "soon"

[Raynor.Z]

"We've been keeping quiet about our upcoming UT3 plans because we've found it's better not to say anything when we aren't sure of the timing of upcoming releases."

That's the way to do it. No hype, no expectations and no disappointments.

[MonsOlympus]

No hype? We've been hearing it all over the place from Epic people, then again I guess its because we are in amongst it the people who arnt probably dont have a clue unless they heard it from a UT fan friend.

Id be happy if they kept everything totally under wraps until its out tbh, atleast then it'll hit and if its good it'll hit big, word of mouth will do the rest

[UBerserker]

I'm being optimist and hope for the "best".

[MonsOlympus]

Well from Epic on PC, who even knows what that is anymore

[MonsOlympus]

Yups 3 times and they rekon they are being quiet about it, we got no clue when its gonna be released it could be a year off (or even more ) so you can guarantee it'd be mentioned more before then. I really hope they keep it to a minimum though, its not like Epic could keep it so secret we wouldnt know till we walk past it on the shelf in the games shop

I do like how this time its said as update and expansion, now I know people could take this the wrong way but to me this means they are working on fixing up UT3 as well as adding stuff onto it.

Im just not sure where I stand with what Epic says these days! If they start doing what they say they are doing/going to do, then this is good news.

[iron12]

"A radical re-working would be nice, or maybe just a graphics update for Unreal Tournament 2004. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy Unreal Tournament III, but the earlier stuff is more enjoyable."

These words are so true. I was the biggest basher of 2004. But I see now it was a very good game and wish they would go back to that style of game.

[shletten]

As for me, I have got to admit that I really miss Unreal Tournament 2004. I kind of like Unreal Tournament 3 very much but it really is lacking content: a great interface, many options that are disappeared, more game modes, more characters, more weapons and especially more maps! Seriously, the game feels totally empty and souless and the new story doesn't help, where the hell is the tournament spirit in all that?! The huge amount of content in UT2004 is what made it so enjoyable for me. I do prefer UT3's gameplay over UT2004 though, it feels much more violent and grounded and I really like that, I am also better at it and wish it was more popular but it doesn't feel like a completed game yet. Yet, there are still many modders, custom maps realease every weeks but still there aren't enough players to compensate...

[Sijik]

Originally Posted by iron12

"A radical re-working would be nice, or maybe just a graphics update for Unreal Tournament 2004. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy Unreal Tournament III, but the earlier stuff is more enjoyable."

These words are so true. I was the biggest basher of 2004. But I see now it was a very good game and wish they would go back to that style of game.

This is what I'm most afraid of. UT3 has the most fun UT gameplay I've ever played, and the idea of them turning it back into the nerfed-to-hell, floaty, overly cartoony, mini-me 2k4 style sounds dreadful.
I'll just skip the "update" if that's what they do, considering I spent more time tweaking mutators trying to get back to the UT feel than I actually spent playing 2k4 by the end...

[Severin]

Originally Posted by Sijik

This is what I'm most afraid of. UT3 has the most fun UT gameplay I've ever played, and the idea of them turning it back into the nerfed-to-hell, floaty, overly cartoony, mini-me 2k4 style sounds dreadful.
I'll just skip the "update" if that's what they do, considering I spent more time tweaking mutators trying to get back to the UT feel than I actually spent playing 2k4 by the end...

Lol, How can you say 2k4 was nerfed when UT3 is a skill-free, feature poor, bug riddled spamfest nothing and more. I can live with either system of movement/weapon balance but UT3 was the game that was 'nerfed-to-hell' not 2k4. Who needs to move or aim well when all you have to do is run around with your finger held down on the RL fire button.

[Poker]

Originally Posted by sneh

1999..2009..

Indeed, a year and a day out makes the decade exactly in fact. You've got to think they have that circled on the calendar, and not just for champagne popping. It just makes too much sense.

Originally Posted by Severin

all you have to do is run around with your finger held down on the RL fire button.

um ... ok you need some stiffer competition.

[GreatEmerald]

Originally Posted by Poker

Indeed, a year and a day out makes the decade exactly in fact. You've got to think they have that circled on the calendar, and not just for champagne popping. It just makes too much sense.

What about 1998-2008? Unreal 1? No U3 yet, so I don't think that's the case.

Originally Posted by Leo(T.C.K.)

Sorry, but no....first you don't even have full UT3 as you said, and about U2, it was officially, yes officially said that the multiplayer was scrapped because of decisions they made with Atari, Epic, Atari, Legend and DE sat down together and came down to that decision, to not cause and Atari had more powerful veta word as they owned Legend(Atari didn't own Epic or DE)..

That means even if they got more time for U2, it was not supposed to have multiplayer and the later phases of developement, since like summer 2002...
So really it proves these changes were made later and it was officially stated during 2002 that they are removing these things and even changing a lot concept of the game, so nobody should have been surprised that U2 = no MP.

You didn't mention Epic. They also voted to take MP out of the game because of their UT2003. But that's not the point. What I meant was that later on they still made U2XMP - but on another branch of the engine! That does mean that they didn't complete it. Plus, what about all the Shian, N, Strider levels? And about Na Koja Abad cutscenes? They didn't have time!

Originally Posted by UnrealGrrl

whatever happens with this update and expansion... as long as they really wait "till its done" this time we can hope for the best. cant imagine what they are going to do, but I'm hopigng that it can do even 1/2 what 2k4 did for ut2003 in fixing and polishing what is an unfinished game (for PC). thx Epic - looking forward to it!

Agreed! And that's what I'm saying, they must take their time!

[Sir_Brizz]

Originally Posted by Severin

Lol, How can you say 2k4 was nerfed when UT3 is a skill-free, feature poor, bug riddled spamfest nothing and more. I can live with either system of movement/weapon balance but UT3 was the game that was 'nerfed-to-hell' not 2k4. Who needs to move or aim well when all you have to do is run around with your finger held down on the RL fire button.

I don't even know how to respond to this.

[hal]

Originally Posted by Severin

Lol, How can you say UT was nerfed when UT 2x is a skill-free, feature poor, bug riddled bouncefest nothing and more. I can live with either system of movement/weapon balance but UT 2x was the game that was 'nerfed-to-hell' not UT. Who needs to move or aim well when all you have to do is hop around with your finger held down on the SR fire button.

I've edited your post to reflect the popular arguments between UT and UT2x players when the latter first hit the scene.

[JEnepas]

Originally Posted by Severin

Lol, How can you say 2k4 was nerfed when UT3 is a skill-free, feature poor, bug riddled spamfest nothing and more. I can live with either system of movement/weapon balance but UT3 was the game that was 'nerfed-to-hell' not 2k4. Who needs to move or aim well when all you have to do is run around with your finger held down on the RL fire button.

I will answer ...you obviously haven't played much DM against the best players who go 50-4 K-D against other, very good players. I loved Ut2004 but tbf UT3 is faster , it requires a different mindset and it demands 100% concentration (unlike floaty 2k4) if anything,it could be too intense for most people , that's why they stick to other shooters and put down UT3. I agree, it can get way too crazy on certain small confined DM maps when a server is full. However , to characterize it as needing no skill is mad, just spectate some of the best UT3 DM'ers.

It is bug riddled though, that much is true