look on pricewatch.com
i got a samsung 48-24-48 for i think around 40 bucks? not really sure. but it works great. except in windows xp, for some reason adaptec refuses to work, and direct cd, and all those roxio apps. i had installed the xp versions (there are compatibility issues with 4.0) and still nothing. being fed up i started using iTunes for windows, and that alone has convinced me to buy a mac for my next comp.