Just finished playing a few rounds of UT2K4 and all I have to say is Blahhh!! It felt like I was playing Quake 3 all over again . I love XMP!! I have not played any of the Unreal Tournaments but what do people see in these games? I thought the guns were pretty horrid and the effects were kinda lame. The models seem to be really skinny and just plain crappy . Im sticking to XMP. Its a much better thought out and designed game overall . Im going to do as that other post said, try and recruit some more people to play XMP.