What benefit does the M16A2 have over the M4A1?

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Zundfolge

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The M4 that will be in INF is the Carbine, it only has a 14.5" barrel, the M16 has a 20" barrel ... so I imagine that accuracy would be the reason to keep your M16 over an M4.
 

itskeiagain

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M16 is longer, therefore it scares more people when you are holding it instead of that puny little M4. :p
 

Technophile

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You can get a decent cheekweld with the M16 stock. Don't know how to reflect that handicap on the M4 ingame. Maybe have the character resettle the stock every once in a while?

Edit:
I pity the fool who tries to use a scope with a collapsable stock.

:(
 

BrownyMan

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WellÉ

The M-16A2 would cost less, have a better accuracy, recoil less, and have a slightly higher power thanks to the longer barrel.
 

Gholam

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IDF issues 14.5" barrel M16's to all combat units (except armored corps, some artillerists, and some antiair who get Galil SAR), with the full-size M16's used for training and most non-combat personnell... I imagine the fate of M16A2 in Infiltration will be similar.
 

Gholam

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Well, I see ACOGs and other scopes mounted on mekutzars (mekutzar = hebrew for shortened = IDF synthesis of M16A1 reciever with 14.5" barrel and telescopic stock), and since IDF doesn't issue scopes to every single infantryman, it means they are designated marksmen, whose mission is to provide fire support at ranges of around 300 meters.
 

the real pacman

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Originally posted by ShakKen
About 150m more effective range and greater lethality and penetration at ranges past 150meters.

Says nothing more than 150m more effective range and greater lethality ranges at past. Its a shame you know, should you have listened to shakken in the first place, you would know that you just shoved your foot in your mouth, and I wouldn't have to remind you.
 

Gholam

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I was referring to greater lethality and penetration... to my knowledge, they behave virtually identically up to 300 meters.
 

ShakKen

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150m.

That's the range where the velocity of a 62 grain bullet out of the M4's 14.5mm barrel with a 1 in 7 twist drops below the muzzle velocity needed to spall reliably on impact.

With the M16A2 it's twice as far.

Effective range with an M4 is pretty much maxed at 400 meters. Best case scenario.
 

Gholam

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I'm talking 1:12 twist barrels though, with M193 ammo, not 1:7/M855. For some reason unknown to me, IDF has a VERY small amount of 1:7 twist M16 barrels in inventory, I've only seen one once... M855 ammo is used for Negev LMG though.