[UT2004] The return of the Sniper Rifle

Pope · Jul 18, 2003

Aiming in UT2k3 is ridiculously easy when compared to UT99. In UT99 you couldn't hit squat with the sniper rifle, now if you're not carrying the LG you've got a serious disadvantage against anyone.

Yeah, if the SR was brought in and you could hit something as easily as you hit anything with any weapon in UT2k3 then it would be a joke, I agree. Everyone knows that weapon balance _isn't_ ut2k3's problem - whole lot of room for improvement elsewhere.

m&ms · Jul 18, 2003

i think they should bring back the sniper rifle, just make it more like a hunting rifle.....a bolt action with 5 round capacity
pump off the five shots in about 4 seconds, but then take a good 5 seconds to reload the five rounds....thatd make it stick to its role as a sniper rifle because it wouldn't be practical close range

with this setup, i wouldn't see the need to put a trail behind the bullets....just a flash out of the end of the barrel

btw chainsaw monkey, what the heck kind of sniper rifle is that? ME WANT

TossMonkey · Jul 18, 2003

ChainsawMonkey said:
Nothing wrong with a sniper rifle, in moderation

I want that mod. NOW!

Old sniper rifle = win.

Perhaps they will remove all the rubbish juggs, egyptians, and alien guys and replace them with nali cows, nali, and completely remodelled UT1 characters. And maybe we can have the player scale back to normal along with the music, and all the original ut maps remade for ut2003.

Hunter · Jul 18, 2003

yes, i loved playing with Sniper's only was great for aim and you could hide almost anywhere

Doc_EDo · Jul 18, 2003

They should change everything so when someone complains I can tell them something like they said to me: "Weapons are fine as they are. If you dont like ut2004 play ut2003". :lol:

janiwashere · Jul 18, 2003

Dumb idea, what's the point in having two snipers in a game :/

EvilDrWong · Jul 18, 2003

janiwashere said:
Dumb idea, what's the point in having two snipers in a game :/

to pacify the angry locals?

NeoNite · Jul 18, 2003

And don't forget, The Liandri tournaments take place in the 24th century!

Sekhmet · Jul 18, 2003

UT1's sniper is off too at certain angles though.

And the UT sniper fits in the game because the other weapons are so powerful too, which creates a balance. Minigun and pulse can take down a sniper very quickly for example, as can the other weapons. Good snipers hardly spam the gun by holding the button anyway..

Anyway, I've never had trouble with the LtG being off the crosshair

. Maybe it's just you, I use the dot, maybe try that..

hal · Jul 18, 2003

I'm assuming that they'll reduce the rate of fire for the UT2004 SR, and we already know it's a mutator. So, what's the big deal?

I rarely use the LG scope, but there's nothing good about it. Limited vision, scan lines, reflects light far too much.

If the other gametypes need a scoped gun, the LG isn't a good weapon for it.

Swift Viper · Jul 18, 2003

Why does alot of poeple think the sniper rifle will automatic be the same from UT? All the "spam" weapons had their spamness removed from UT2k3 and I don't how the UT sniper rifle was spammy, only the rate of fire was a bit high. IMO the lightning gun is too slow, almost two seconds between firing (1.8 to be exact), I like the rate of fire in the classic mutator better. What will be the different between the lightning gun and sniper rifle? I'm not sure, but it sounds like it will be a mutator.

Then again, the sinper rifle does seem kind of outdated compaired to the other weapons, if it was made a little bit more high-tech (unless you count the lightning gun).

-AEnubis- · Jul 19, 2003

UT Sniper? Ew....

If they are going to "bring back" anything, it should be the U1 SR. That was a cool looking gun.

The UT Sniper rifle was spammy, and that game had balance at a 110+ ping. Anything sub 100ms, and the balance went out the window, along with the projectile weapons. Hitscan then became king, queen, and jack.

As a muty, sure, whatever. As long as it's not "standard", then I'm fine with it. Be really cool if with it on, it gave a client side option of that or the LTG. I'd take the LTG for personal reasons, but I doubt they'll "port" the weapon exactly, even in muty form.

Gonna stick with my "I'll trust Epic" stance.

Doc_EDo · Jul 19, 2003

How about enforcer? This game needs it more than it needs a sniper.

Morba · Jul 19, 2003

the old sniper rifle was a joke.

all lpbs would do is hold down fire and spam (yes spam, that is when you dont take finger off fire...) like mad.
it was a mental melee weapon and a joke in the wrong hands.
Its pretty much like the new shock primary, the rate of fire is a joke imo. should be slowed down :/

sharpfish · Jul 19, 2003

well I detest the LG but that just an opinion, I love sniper rifles in any game and 2k3 lost more than it gained by removing it. The LG is fine in theory but when I use (and I understand it takes a good user) it just feels like playing insta-gib on a high lag server thanks to the built in delay - I HATE unresponsive games and this `feeling` is created on purpose... a high speed battling game such as this should not have slowly recharging guns. IT should be INSTANT and maybe reduced in power, keep the lightning effect etc.. its just the delay that drives me up the wall (similar to a wall jump)

Sharpfish

Swedix · Jul 19, 2003

Doc_EDo said:
How about enforcer? This game needs it more than it needs a sniper.

Double enforcers r0x

DeadEyeNick · Jul 19, 2003

Swedix said:
Double enforcers r0x

Double Assault Rifle > Double enforcers :lol:

Raffi_B · Jul 19, 2003

Heres what I think:
NO, I dont want the UT99 sniper rifle
YES, I want a sniper rifle (not lightning gun)
The ut99 sniper rifle was sick... the refire rate made it more of a .... gun with a high refire rate than a sniper. although i disapprove of using clips and reloading, I would like to see something that makes it have little use close range.

Swedix · Jul 19, 2003

DeRailer said:
Double Assault Rifle > Double enforcers

Dunno if you can have double Assault Rifles. Anyone know if it's possible?
I know for sure that I never been able to pick one up.

Radiosity · Jul 19, 2003

No you can't, as they're not dropped when you die. Someone did make an akimbo mutator a while ago though. It made every weapon possible to go akimbo with

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