When I say "Q4 sucks" I mean the multiplayer. Perhaps I should have clarified. I gave it more than a few tries and it's just the most boring spamfest I have ever had the misfortune of taking part in. If said spam was fun I'd be all for it, but it's not. It's a slow and lumbering excuse for FPS multiplayer, and I never had any fun playing it. I haven't touched the single player yet, and while that may look good, the multiplayer maps all pretty much look like total crap, and the engine runs slow as hell for the amount of stuff it's rendering. I'm not gonna say "it's okay" when I severely dislike playing it, and it's ridiculous when the success of a game depends on a community-made mod that may or may not come into existence at some point in the future. I had an open mind when I got the game; in fact, I wanted the game to succeed in ways UT2004 has failed and I really hoped it would be a huge success. I was greeted by nothing but disappointment with regards to the multiplayer, so I stopped playing it completely and haven't looked back since. Naturally, this is what I need to post whenever someone asks my opinion on the game, but I'm lazy, so I just paraphrase everything I just said by saying "Q4 sucks" instead.