I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE....!!! I PUT BOTH GAMES ON MY SYSTEM AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD TO RE-INSTALL UT AND I STILL AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH IT!!!! GRANTED I AM A LITTLE MIFFED AT 3DFX FOR NOT GETTING ON THE BALL AND GETTING THE RIGHT MINI GL'S OUT TO SUPPORT Q3A BUT THAT IS 3DFX'S PROB NOT ID SOFTWARE... ANYWAY, I PUT UT ON MY SYSTEM AND ALL WAS GOING FINE UNTIL I PUT THE CRAPPY 402 PATCH IN.... ALL OF A SUDDEN MY SYSTEM WENT HAYWIRE... I COULDN'T PLAY UT AT ALL... I HAD TO UNINSTALL AND RE-INSTALL THE DAMN GAME AND GUESS WHAT.... HAHAHA NOW MY CONTROLS FREEZE, AND THE GAME SIMPLY SHUTS DOWN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF PLAYING AND GIVES ME A GENERAL FAULT PROTECTION ERROR! HAHA SO MUCH FOR STABLITIY!!! Q3A DOESN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM... HEY I'LL TAKE STABILITY OVER ANYTHING, INCLUDING FANCY BOTS AND SUPPOSED AI.... I AM SO PISSED AT GT RIGHT NOW FOR RELEASING THAT CRAPPY PATCH.. I THINK I AM GIONG TO RETURN THIS GAME AND STICK TO QUAKE.. I HAVE PLAYED QUAKE SINCE 96 AND SHOULD HAVE KNOW BETTER THEN TO STRAY... I SHOULD HAVE LEARNED MY LESSON WITH THAT BUGGY PIECE OF CRAP HALF LIFE.. MY GOD THAT GAME IS WORSE... AND IN RE-BUTTLE TO ALL THOSE THAT ARE ABOUT TO SAY "YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO TO GET YOUR SYSTEM TO WORK..." LOL LISTEN UP!! I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO!!!! I AM NOT A PROGRAMMER...!! WHY IN THE HELL IS IT "MY" JOB TO MAKE THESE GD GAMES WORK... THERE SHOULD BE ONLY MINOR, IF ANY, CONFIGURING... THAT BEING SETTING UP YOUR CONTROLS AND PLAYER MODEL... I AM SICK OF CRAPPY GAMES!!! POWER TO ID SOFTWARE.. I AM SORRY I EVER DOUBTED THEM!!!!