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Witty
28th Nov 2001, 12:42 AM
To not get "killed" (captured) when coming to Paul at the 'Ton hotel AND have Paul survive? I've tried getting out alive, but when you eventually get captured, the guy says that "only one of them lived" or something.

Solaris
28th Nov 2001, 02:13 AM
Yeah, there is most definitely a way for Paul to survive. There is no way not to get captured though.

zynthetic
28th Nov 2001, 03:20 AM
not so sure about that. I've staryed and fought all the soldiers. When it was all over it had the same outcome.

Witty
28th Nov 2001, 11:35 PM
thanks

BangOut
6th Dec 2001, 06:06 PM
? Paul doesn't die... you see him in Hong Kong... :P

zynthetic
6th Dec 2001, 08:11 PM
keep playing;)

BangOut
6th Dec 2001, 08:45 PM
PFFT

I played all the way through twice... he never died

Homer
15th Dec 2001, 04:58 PM
Paul will die when you leave through the window. Stay in the room when the bad guys attack and either fight your way through with Paul or hide in the hidden closet and let Paul do the work, then leave through the hotel, NOT the window, and Paul will survive.

BangOut
16th Dec 2001, 12:33 AM
Righteous!

I'm glad I saved Paul's ass :)

zynthetic
16th Dec 2001, 01:10 PM
agh! now I've gotta play it again.
The first time I played it I stayed and fought my way through the hotel; he lived, but was dead later in the story.
The second time I just left.

Techno JF
17th Dec 2001, 12:12 AM
Yeah, there's no way to keep from getting captured. I never go through the window, because I'd rather not lose Paul. However, I've been as far through the mission as is possible. Let's just say that you've gone as far as you can once you talk to Gunther Hermann.

Witty
17th Dec 2001, 08:06 PM
I've beaten the game three times, and I'm now trying desperately to get past the one-shot-kill enemies of "Realistic" mode. I just wanted to know if there was a way to get out of that situation in a good way.

Witty
17th Dec 2001, 08:08 PM
Hey, you know what would be really cool?
If you could play for UNATCO the entire game!!!!

8-4-7-2
20th Dec 2001, 12:50 PM
In an interview Warren Spector said, that he was disappointed the most in Deus Ex at the fact, that you need to kill 3 people to finish the game.

You need to kill Gunther Hermann, and Walt Simmons. But who is the third? I guess it's Maggie Chao. Is there a way to let her live?
You can get around Lebedev and Navarra.

What really freaked me out, was the death of Jock the first time I played it. I saw that dead mechanic is Paris, but didn't think that much of it.
Next time I corrected that mistake

BangOut
20th Dec 2001, 12:56 PM
Are you serious?

Neither Jock nor Paul died each time I played it... I guess I did all the right things :P

How can you make sure Navarra and Lebedev live?

Mxtrmntr
26th Dec 2001, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by 8-4-7-2
In an interview Warren Spector said, that he was disappointed the most in Deus Ex at the fact, that you need to kill 3 people to finish the game.

You need to kill Gunther Hermann, and Walt Simmons. But who is the third? I guess it's Maggie Chao. Is there a way to let her live?
You can get around Lebedev and Navarra.

What really freaked me out, was the death of Jock the first time I played it. I saw that dead mechanic is Paris, but didn't think that much of it.
Next time I corrected that mistake

Maggie Chao can be let alive, I only used Tranquilizer darts on her. Didn't know tho that you can let Anna Navarre live. Jock never died when I played, Paul died both times I played through it, didn't know at that time that he can survive :(

Maybe Spector was also talking about Bob Page when he mentioned the three people you have to kill. The second time I played through DX, the only humans I killed were Hermann, Navarre, Simons and Page (dunno if these commando bots of which I killed one can be called human; they've got blood, but apart of that, they just seem to be robots, dunno) I tried to play through the game with as few kills as possible, I even managed to evacuate the warehouse where you have to destroy the generator so that no guards would get killed :)

8-4-7-2
5th Jan 2002, 07:39 PM
I know this comes late:

Lebedev:
Just say you won't kill him. But Simons will be pretty pissed off at the debriefing and you won't get your bonus

Navarra:
You can simply surrender to her in the sub station
She will then come to visit you in the UNATCO cell, shortly before Deadalus frees you

Jock:
When you reach the helipad in Paris after you met the Illuminati leader there, you see a dead mechanic. If you go back to the leader (forgot his name), and tell him, it turns out that the other mechanic was a Majestic12/UNATCO spy.
If you take off without taking care of him, he plants a bomb in the helicopter, and it will explode when Jock takes off from Area 51

Page:
You can let him live, if you unite with Helios for example

striderteen
11th Jan 2002, 03:42 AM
No, you can't let Navarre live. If you surrender to her at the subway, you'll still have to kill her when you break out of MJ12 and into UNATCO -- otherwise Alex will be too afraid to give you the key to get out.

Why you can't just break through that flimsy little glass door, however, stretches credulity.

Realistic mode! I'm breaking out of the 'Ton on realistic now...stealth and tactics are the only way to survive.

NVShacker
2nd Jul 2004, 12:59 AM
The only person you have to 'kill' is Navarra.

Levedev you leave.
Howard Strong you tranq.
Jock kill mechanic.
Anna can be bypassed by throwing a gas grenade at her and having her let you out of HQ. Still is believed to be killed.
Gunther you can run from\hurt.
Simons you can run from.
Page, merge with Helios.