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hal
17th Oct 2001, 04:28 AM
Gamecube 101 (http://gamecube101.netfirms.com/news-digitalextremes.html) is reporting a new game from Digital Extremes for the upcoming Gamecube.

Could it be?

icest0rm
17th Oct 2001, 10:50 AM
Naw, it can't be...

IntRed
17th Oct 2001, 03:24 PM
well they could, and i think they will
i doubt they will have the time to make another game

hal
17th Oct 2001, 07:23 PM
I've seen the demos of the 'cube running and it looks even smoother than the X-box. Fluid even.

victorch98
6th Sep 2003, 02:03 PM
Huh ? Are you serious ? For the GC ? Hummmm, how will the control scheme affect gameplay ???? Since the GC controller is so small, it's just good to play adventures games only, no fighting games, no FP games. Well see.

Sir_Brizz
7th Sep 2003, 01:48 AM
the only reason it would be smoother is that the graphics chip of the GC has much more strict requirements than that in the XBox...the Xbox is more like a PC in it's flexibility in running more or less data. The GC is more restrictive of that, so things like adding pixel shaders or removing them are not available.

TossMonkey
13th Sep 2003, 11:39 AM
As this thread was started 2 years ago I would hazard a guess that theres no new game from DE coming out on the cube.

Sir_Brizz
13th Sep 2003, 03:47 PM
FFS....stupid thread bumping...

JamesKilton
16th Sep 2003, 08:45 PM
AND, now that Microsoft is the publisher, that will never come to pass.

missPoopShoot
17th Sep 2003, 05:21 PM
...Since the GC controller is so small, it's just good to play adventures games only, no fighting games, no FP games. Well see.

Welllll... The best version of Soul Calibur 2 is the GC version because of the controller. Metroid Prime is the best console shooter behind Halo and doesn't suffer because of the controller. A good games dev will work with the controller and as long as it isn't a lazy port, I'm sure the GC controller would work very well.

the only reason it would be smoother is that the graphics chip of the GC has much more strict requirements than that in the XBox...the Xbox is more like a PC in it's flexibility in running more or less data. The GC is more restrictive of that, so things like adding pixel shaders or removing them are not available.

I agree this is a big problem. The good thing is, UT2003/4 is not dependent on shaders for its' graphical effects - I could certainly live without them. AFAIK UT2003 uses nothing, shader wise, that the GC doesn't have built in. Simple shaders can also be emulated, albeit with a processor hit.

As this thread was started 2 years ago I would hazard a guess that theres no new game from DE coming out on the cube.

:lol: Probably not :mad:

AND, now that Microsoft is the publisher, that will never come to pass.

:mad: Darn :)

PS. How do you guys like the new avatar and sig? :D

Scuzzbuster
18th Sep 2003, 03:02 PM
As this thread was started 2 years ago I would hazard a guess that theres no new game from DE coming out on the cube.

Now That's funny.

Sir_Brizz
18th Sep 2003, 11:20 PM
DE is not signing a deal with MS.

aruon 177
19th Sep 2003, 12:43 AM
why not make UC on the ps2 that would be damn cool if they did,becasue the ps2 can take on games useing the unreal engine.

Sir_Brizz
19th Sep 2003, 12:49 AM
no it can't the PS2 blows, sucks, licks and everything else....bad graphics runs slow...has good games, but putting UC on tehre wouldn't attribute to that at all...

T.Dizzle
19th Feb 2004, 09:00 PM
agreed with sir brizz

Hedge
26th Feb 2004, 09:18 PM
Thread bumping. The most glorious thing ever. A port of UC to either the GC or PS2 would look nothing short of crummy. The PS2 doesn't have the power and the gamecube disks can only hold 1.5gb of data. Considering that 2k3 is 3 gb and UC is probably around 2.5 gb, you would have to swap disks on the GC during map changes. :(

Bloodsplat
29th Feb 2004, 05:31 PM
GC controller = Worthless paper weight for fighters, shooters and action titles. If you want the best Soul Calibur 2 experience, Xbox with arcade sticks on an HDtv. Coming from the position of running Soul Calibur 2 tournys, people at the events want high res gaming and comfortable arcade sticks to play on and not some kiddie crap who looks like a mutated failure of the SNES pad with love handles. The Gamecube nearly failed due to it focusing on a demograph of players who knew jack of the letters "N", "E", and "S" strung together. Infact the cube nearly went the ways of the dreamcast if not for the refocusing of management (after losing 1/3rd of the orginal staff behind NES, SNES, and Gameboy) and development AND the price cut to 99 dollars. Even at the price of 129.99, the cube was still being out sold by the Xbox. Now with the price cut, there are more cubes sold recently but don't think this is good news. Nintendo is losing profits badly from the hardware price cut. We are talking ATi GPU and a rather speedy processor in the funky shapped thing and neither of the two are cheap to build or purchase.

UT2k3 does rely on Shaders for the graphical appeal of the game. If not, you're praticaly missing the whole point of UT2k3/4. The cube has shader support due to the ATi GPU, but does not have any shader info for each game. Yeah, shaders can be emulated but your processor hit would make games unplayable and unenjoyable for the system.

UncleThursday
7th Sep 2004, 05:13 AM
*decides to have a little fun*

GC controller = Worthless paper weight for fighters, shooters and action titles. If you want the best Soul Calibur 2 experience, Xbox with arcade sticks on an HDtv. Coming from the position of running Soul Calibur 2 tournys, people at the events want high res gaming and comfortable arcade sticks to play on and not some kiddie crap who looks like a mutated failure of the SNES pad with love handles.

Which is why the PS2 and Xbox versions sold like crap compared to the GC version, right? And since the Xbox version sold like crap compared to the PS2 version... I guess that means it sold like absolute dog**** compared to the GC version. So much for your theories.

The Gamecube nearly failed due to it focusing on a demograph of players who knew jack of the letters "N", "E", and "S" strung together. Infact the cube nearly went the ways of the dreamcast if not for the refocusing of management (after losing 1/3rd of the orginal staff behind NES, SNES, and Gameboy) and development AND the price cut to 99 dollars. Even at the price of 129.99, the cube was still being out sold by the Xbox.

Funny, according to NPD, the GC outsold the Xbox for the whole year of 2003 in the end, in North America. And the GC has outsold the Xbox, overall, worldwide as well. The Xbox is in last place by over half a million units, worldwide.

Now with the price cut, there are more cubes sold recently but don't think this is good news. Nintendo is losing profits badly from the hardware price cut. We are talking ATi GPU and a rather speedy processor in the funky shapped thing and neither of the two are cheap to build or purchase.

Nintendo made over half a billion in profits last year. I guess your 'they're losing money' thoughts were a bit, um, uneducated? Besides, Sony lost money, as an entire company, for two years in a row with the end of their last fiscal year; and Microsoft has lost over $2 billion on the Xbox so far.

BITE_ME
7th Sep 2004, 07:55 AM
Huh ? Are you serious ? For the GC ? Hummmm, how will the control scheme affect gameplay ???? Since the GC controller is so small, it's just good to play adventures games only, no fighting games, no FP games. Well see.


1 player can use 2 controllers at once. That is how I play Golden Eye ;)

Sir_Brizz
7th Sep 2004, 10:30 AM
*decides to have a little fun*



Which is why the PS2 and Xbox versions sold like crap compared to the GC version, right? And since the Xbox version sold like crap compared to the PS2 version... I guess that means it sold like absolute dog**** compared to the GC version. So much for your theories.



Funny, according to NPD, the GC outsold the Xbox for the whole year of 2003 in the end, in North America. And the GC has outsold the Xbox, overall, worldwide as well. The Xbox is in last place by over half a million units, worldwide.



Nintendo made over half a billion in profits last year. I guess your 'they're losing money' thoughts were a bit, um, uneducated? Besides, Sony lost money, as an entire company, for two years in a row with the end of their last fiscal year; and Microsoft has lost over $2 billion on the Xbox so far.
So... do you have any sources for your information? Everything I've read on NPD (and elsewhere) shows Gamecube dead last on everything for Q4 2003 and Annual 2003. While they had an increase in sales (21.8% I believe) Q1 2004 and MS and Sony showed losses, they still showed up last because the increase didn't envelop the difference that was already made. It's true that XBox and GC are very close in the running, but I still see XBox with roughly 9mil units and GC with roughly 7mil.

UncleThursday
7th Sep 2004, 05:21 PM
So... do you have any sources for your information? Everything I've read on NPD (and elsewhere) shows Gamecube dead last on everything for Q4 2003 and Annual 2003. While they had an increase in sales (21.8% I believe) Q1 2004 and MS and Sony showed losses, they still showed up last because the increase didn't envelop the difference that was already made. It's true that XBox and GC are very close in the running, but I still see XBox with roughly 9mil units and GC with roughly 7mil.

The numbers I can find while my laptop is in the shop (again *groan*) are limited The numbers from NPD I have readily available on this machine are the numbers for November 2003, from 2 sources: NPD sales showed the GC sold 754k with the Xbox selling 491k in November, another source (that may include Wal-Mart in its tracking, which NPD does not) showed the GC selling 1,008,000 and the Xbox selling 667k in November of 2003.

Oh, I found some more numbers on Google.

October: GC-254k, Xbox-176k
December: GC-1.160 mil, Xbox-1.080 mil

Remember, Microsoft only claimed sales victory in the final 2 weeks of December over the GC for the quarter, but they still were behind for the month.

But, the quarter had the GC beating the Xbox in all three months.

Since the New Year, though, Microsoft has again been outselling Nintendo in North America, especially after the price cut of the Xbox. In fact, the lead of the Xbox had been cut from 1.4 mil down to around 800k by the end of the holidays (in order to cut a lead, you have to sell more than your opponent, otherwise the lead won't decrease), but now appears to be back up to a 1.4-1.5 mil lead. Of course this doesn't make up the 2.9 mil + lead the GC has in Japan for the worldwide placing. ;)

Sir_Brizz
7th Sep 2004, 11:41 PM
:lol: well yah in Japan ;)

Anyways, please post your sources, I would like to see them.

Symbolikal
8th Sep 2004, 10:10 AM
I've got a gamecube! plz be true!

Lewis
9th Sep 2004, 08:57 AM
it won't happen... as the original post is nearly 3 years old, and theres not even any sign of anything for it it won't happen

Symbolikal
9th Sep 2004, 10:38 AM
I never look at dates. bollox

Bang Yr Head
10th Sep 2004, 06:37 PM
if this is true, its only good news for me, since I own a GC.

tool
12th Sep 2004, 05:22 PM
Gamecube and Xbox have both sold very well, lets just put it at that. Its not a penis size contest between Microsoft and Nintendo, so I don't know why you guys are making it into one. And if you want to talk numbers, the playstation 2 has sold over 60 million units world wide. So I think you can consider both the gamecube and Xbox owned by a huge margin by the playstation 2. Bet you can't guess why the PS2 is considered the better system despite its aging hardware? I'll give you a hint... it has something to do with the games...

UncleThursday
14th Sep 2004, 09:02 PM
:lol: well yah in Japan ;)

Anyways, please post your sources, I would like to see them.

I have to scour the web for my numbers, anymore. I used to get NDP TRST numbers from a friend, but he stopped sending them out.

Finding NPD numbers is becomming harder and harder, and you have to scour message boards and compare the numbers given to see how they match up, because gaming sites no longer seem to publish the actual numbers. NPD probably has them sign NDAs on the numbers, since they charge an arm and a leg plus your first born's soul for them (it's like $10k per report), and posting them on gaming news sites sort of defeats the purpose of charging money for them.