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Wolf Blackstar
5th Jan 2000, 11:38 AM
I was perusing the thread entitled "How do you want Unreal 2 to be?" and came across a post where you were talking abou Return to NaPali. You said:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>the planet is not called NaPali..(ask me and I'll explain)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I just played a little of the original Unreal(my favorite map is Bluff Eversmoking) and now I'm curious as hell. Why is the planet not called NaPali? What is NaPali? What is the name of the planet?

Just looking for some answers, seeing as I was planning on forming a new Unreal/UT clan called "The Mercenaries of NaPali."

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Clock
5th Jan 2000, 12:37 PM
I'll let Hellscrag answer your question, but I'll throw in my agreement that Bluff Eversmoking was a great level.

Did you get the secret kill/reward for that map? It has to do with the guy on the cross.

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Hellscrag
5th Jan 2000, 12:37 PM
Heh that was just me being pedantic! Na Pali has become the accepted name it seems.

The planet goes unnamed. Na Pali is the name of the floating rock in the sky that spans three maps; skycaves.unr, skytown.unr and skybase.unr. These levels are called "Gateway to Na Pali", "Na Pali Haven" and "Outpost 3J".

Given that in Gateway to Na Pali you have risen from the top of the Sunspire on the surface up in that SkyElevator thing and entered the caves through a hole in the bottom of the rock, the fact that the level when you arrive is called "Gateway to Na Pali" suggests that it is in fact that rock and not the planet that's called Na Pali.

I dunno, it's hardly a big issue and Na Pali has become the accepted name. Btw, Bluff Eversmoking is one of my favourites too /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

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Hellscrag
5th Jan 2000, 12:38 PM
oh, hi Clock... posted at the same time /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

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Hellscrag
5th Jan 2000, 12:41 PM
Btw Wolf, that's a kool name, keep it, factually right or not /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

Clock: I've seen that secret... useful Super Health Pack.

Just yesterday discovered a new secret in MotherShip Lab with a Super Health Pack and a Shield Belt. Evil positioning that. One false step or hang around too long and you're mincemeat /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

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Clock
5th Jan 2000, 05:29 PM
Mothership Lab secret ??? Do tell. I don't think I know that one.

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Wolf Blackstar
6th Jan 2000, 12:03 PM
Yeah, you're right about that Gateway to NaPali thing. I gotta go play that series of levels again. Skytown is another favorite of mine, I'm hoping for a deathmatch level based on it.

Btw, I do remember the secret with the super health pack, but I just played Bluff last night and found a secret that I had never seen before, the one with the ghost Nali in the graveyard and the secret crypts- weapons, ammo, and an Invisibility powerup.

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Hellscrag
6th Jan 2000, 05:08 PM
Clock: All you need to know is at http://website.lineone.net/~s2swalks/u1-32.htm - it's in there somewhere under an "Extra". I would try to tell you now but it's kinda complex!

Wolf: Yeah, SkyTown is a great map, one of my favourites too. Along with Bluff, Chizra and The Sunspire. Hey, they're all great maps, but those are some of the best /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif . I dunno about playing just the Sky maps again, I think playing the whole game repeatedly is more appropriate /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif . Have you completed it on Unreal skill without saving except at the start of the map yet?

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Wolf Blackstar
7th Jan 2000, 12:52 PM
I've beaten the game on Unreal, but about that savegame thing.... you really are the single-player "nut" I guess, I always save after critical mission chokepoints. If you've done all the maps the way you described, I salute you. /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

I really am looking forward to an Unreal sequel. One of the things that really kept me playing on into the night on single-player was reading all the translator logs. They added a level of depth to the game. Before, Quake2 had the little field computer, but its impersonal mission-related only info couldn't hold a candle to Unreal's translator logs. In Bluff Eversmoking, I kept playing, driven on by the story of the captured woman who was helped to escape by the Nali, only to find her dead, like evryone else. I hope that in the sequel, you will be able to find survivors, and interact with them, even if it was only Half-Life style.

Well that's my $1.09.

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Hellscrag
7th Jan 2000, 01:37 PM
Yeah the translator thingies were kool.
If you like Unreal SP then I would recommend the mission pack Return to Na Pali - it continues the storyline and shows how you get out of the situation at the end of the original Unreal storyline... I think Unreal 2's gonna follow on from Return to Na Pali given that it's being developed by the same people. Unfortnuately though Na Pali doesn't have as much of the translator stuff /~unreal/ubb/html/frown.gif

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hal
10th Jan 2000, 08:56 PM
It will be interesting to see what they do with U2. With the popularity of UT and Q3A, I wonder how tempted they'll be to follow up with another multiplayer focused game. I'd sure love to see some co-op single player or new gamestyles that follow the Unreal storyline. .....or will it be purely singleplayer??

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Hellscrag
11th Jan 2000, 12:51 PM
No, it's not going to be multiplayer focused. Legend Entertainment (they'e been contracted out by Epic - I think Cliff B. is going to be involved too) are creating a single player game that follows on from the storyline of Return to Na Pali.

There will certainly be deathmatch. I don't know about Coop, I don't think there was proper support in Return to Na Pali (which they developed too).

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hal
11th Jan 2000, 03:37 PM
Yeah, I really enjoyed RTNP. It didn't get great reviews but I enjoyed the maps and the new weapons. The only thing that makes me nervous about it involve 3 things I didn't like in RTNP:

1) Marines never showed up again.
2) Rehashed maps from Epic's Recycle Bin
3) Messed up current versions of Unreal 225(?)


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Wolf Blackstar
11th Jan 2000, 06:43 PM
NaPali was a blast, I did enjoy it. It's levels had nothing on the original's though...

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hal
12th Jan 2000, 12:35 AM
Oh yeah, #4 reason why I didn't like it

4) The lame end boss. I couldn't believe it was over!

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Clock
12th Jan 2000, 12:28 PM
Hellscrag: I finally went through the Mothership Lab in search of that secret you mentioned a few posts back. I actually found that the first time playing Unreal! But I kept dying so I left it alone. Didn't realize there was an escape from the ledge, though there HAD to be one, if you think about it. Anyway, I didn't bother with it on subsequent run-throughs, and had forgotten about it until you brought it up.

Just yesterday I found a secret in Return To Na Pali (Nathiel Village Pt2)which I had missed before. Its that cave entrence you have to jump to from one of the roofs. Dohhh

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Hellscrag
12th Jan 2000, 01:55 PM
Got that one Clock /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif (thanks to http://www.planetunreal.com/vortex ) heh.

Yeah it was odd that the Marines in RTNP never showed again, esp. when the narration said that you would (instead you get a bunch of Krall and a Warlord. Doh).

The recycled maps were ok but not as good as the rest. Foundry Tarydium Plant has grown on me since I first played it.

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