Two suggestions.

SuperDudeMan · Jun 23, 2001

#1

When moving prone and pressing fire we should stop moving and fire cause there is just not enough reaction when we move in prone unlike RL.

#2

When coming up to a mounted MG (M2HB) we should only be able to select it pressing 0 because we might not need it at the time but we needed a good position and when we are in CQB selecting the MG takes away our victory by takintg away the time.

NotBillMurray · Jun 23, 2001

#2 How about "grab"bing the M2HB to use it?

yurch · Jun 23, 2001

i am not sure what 1 is all about. If your hand was on the ground puling yourself along, you couldn't instantly fire anyway. Whats so bad about having to stop first?
And pressing a key to select the m2hb is already in one of the planned versions (i think its in the manual under "bugs/troubleshooting")

NotBillMurray · Jun 23, 2001

Thanks yurch. I've been hoping for that for some time.

yurch · Jun 23, 2001

don't thank me, I'm not the one coding it!

SuperDudeMan · Jun 24, 2001

Well, the reaction in INF to shoot from prone while moving is much slower than in RL. In RL we just have to stop and press the trigger, in INF we have to release the movement key and then shoot.

yurch · Jun 24, 2001

um, releasing the movement key is the same as stopping, right?
IRL your hands & arms will be on the ground, so it will take LONGER to bring the gun ready to fire.

SuperDudeMan · Jun 24, 2001

Yes, but stopping the movement is a natural thing to do when you see a gun pointed at you. and if you press fire and then stop the weapon will 'jam'. the other solution to it is that if we press fire and then release the movement key you ONLY then will fire.

yurch · Jun 24, 2001

i dont see how this matters much. Why not just release the move key?

NotBillMurray · Jun 24, 2001

You seem to be forgetting what it looks like while you're crawling. Your weapon is far from ready. You do not have it sighted, you don't have both hands on it, and it isn't even pointed forward. I would consider the stop movement to ready to fire time to be inadequate as it stands now. The problem is that in first person you see none of that movement. If the gun was truly moving as it is in third person, you would have to see your weapon be brought to ready when you stopped moving.

I can't seem to remember if there we were ever going to see the first person movement of the weapon.

SuperDudeMan · Jun 24, 2001

Well, that is true, Monk, but when I press fire in INF while moving and release the move key, the weapon jams forever. But if it is made so there is like a 1/2 second delay after releasing the movement key while pressing the fire key, that completely fits your post.

NotBillMurray · Jun 24, 2001

Yeah, but the ideal solution would be animations for all the delay. If only your weapon dropped from sight and then was brought up to its original position (side or aimed) when you cease moving, it would accurately demonstrate the delay without additional animations.

SuperDudeMan · Jun 24, 2001

but the weapon still jams after releasing move key unless you press fire again so that's the main purpose of my suggestion.

yurch · Jun 24, 2001

oh, so its a lag thing?
(server still thinks you are moving, so you can't fire)

SuperDudeMan · Jun 25, 2001

no, it's a keyboard-mouse event thing, even offline it doesn't work. INF does not listen to the event of releasing the move key while the fire key is pressed and thus it doesn't fire.

NotBillMurray · Jun 25, 2001

I gotta go with yurch... sequence your keystrokes and the problem is fixed. That or stop pr0ning

SuperDudeMan · Jun 25, 2001

yea you are pr0ne haters, what will you do in RL then ???

yurch · Jun 25, 2001

in RL we don't have a move key

SuperDudeMan · Jun 26, 2001

that's the point of the whole thread! I tell ya about the unrealistic move-in-prone and shoot stuff, you just won't understand.

baah! I'll drop it now.

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