Well is it? I'm not trying to bitch or whine, I'm just wondering if the strength is realistic. To me it seems to strong but I'm no gun expert.
Also how does the shotty fair up against amor?
Also how does the shotty fair up against amor?
Is the shot gun to strong?
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Mondo, yea I think it's strong, but not because of shot power. It's the fact that you can pull 8 shots off faster than the ak. That's what makes it too powerful!
no, the shotgun is not too strong. Its supposed to be a cqb weapon. A close range blast IRL would leave a helluva wound, if it didn't kill you first.
Shotgun pellets usually do pretty poor against body armor, esp at the longer ranges.
Ive used shotguns for hunting (there are four in my family) - close range shots are usually frowned on (they practically rip the target in half)
And yes, semi-auto shotguns do fire that fast.
I think the pattern is a bit too wide to be realistic - but on the other hand, tightening it up would result in the shotgun being more deadly(in the right hands)
Shotgun pellets usually do pretty poor against body armor, esp at the longer ranges.
Ive used shotguns for hunting (there are four in my family) - close range shots are usually frowned on (they practically rip the target in half)
And yes, semi-auto shotguns do fire that fast.
I think the pattern is a bit too wide to be realistic - but on the other hand, tightening it up would result in the shotgun being more deadly(in the right hands)
At what distance shoulg the shotty be inaffective. It seems that even if four pellets from ....uhhhh....not really sure how to measure, let's say 40 feet kills me. That sound right?
maxium shotgun effectiveness should be about 50yards - i don't think its implemented right, as it is.
Yurch,
50 yards sounds correct, but what about recoil? would 8 consecutive shots carry more recoil than that?
Thanks!
50 yards sounds correct, but what about recoil? would 8 consecutive shots carry more recoil than that?
Thanks!
nah,
At a long range (longer than what it seems in inf), the kick makes it kinda hard to aim accurately.(of course, i am shooting at small, fast targets like birds/clays). It may take a half-second to realign a second shot - you have to factor in lead.
But at close range, not a problem at all.
Benellis are known for having a fast mechanisim, and are usually pretty good about kick. Shotguns are heavy compared to some of the SMGs, so it shouldn't be a problem.
At a long range (longer than what it seems in inf), the kick makes it kinda hard to aim accurately.(of course, i am shooting at small, fast targets like birds/clays). It may take a half-second to realign a second shot - you have to factor in lead.
But at close range, not a problem at all.
Benellis are known for having a fast mechanisim, and are usually pretty good about kick. Shotguns are heavy compared to some of the SMGs, so it shouldn't be a problem.
What I've heard from other people who have used shotguns in real life is basically that in INF they are completely wrong.
The close range spread is way too much. Like 10 feet from the muzzle the pellets are spread way out. In real life it should only be a very tiny grouping.
The maximum effective range is also way too short. I guess in real life they are effective between 50-100m depending on choke. In INF you're lucky to get a single pellet on somebody at like 35m.
Basically they are too much like the "doom" style shotguns. Realistically it'd be more like an SMG that shoots it's entire mag at the same time.
The close range spread is way too much. Like 10 feet from the muzzle the pellets are spread way out. In real life it should only be a very tiny grouping.
The maximum effective range is also way too short. I guess in real life they are effective between 50-100m depending on choke. In INF you're lucky to get a single pellet on somebody at like 35m.
Basically they are too much like the "doom" style shotguns. Realistically it'd be more like an SMG that shoots it's entire mag at the same time.
I would wait for the new shotty to be implemented before going over this...I'm not sure the current one was done as was originally intended. In any case, I think it's pretty well balanced...this is pretty much the first I've heard of it being to strong.
man
Gawd, all i see is people wanting to take all my fun away. First the nades. I get 2 now. Now you people are bitching about the shotgun. Cmon.. Get over it, or go camp, and try to hit me from across the map.
Dont touch the shotgun, its fine, it works great, last long time. Or untill i run out of shells. Which btw, limits the shotguns capibility already.
Gawd, all i see is people wanting to take all my fun away. First the nades. I get 2 now. Now you people are bitching about the shotgun. Cmon.. Get over it, or go camp, and try to hit me from across the map.
Dont touch the shotgun, its fine, it works great, last long time. Or untill i run out of shells. Which btw, limits the shotguns capibility already.
The shotgun power is fine, but I think the pellets should have a tighter formation at close to medium range. And maybe the kick should be greater when firing the M1 or M3 in quick succession. But, we haven't seen what the M1 is like, so maybe the pellets will be closer together, and with the iron sights fixed the gun would be harder to aim and fire fast. The biggest problem now though is the pellet spread, makes it too easy to hit someone. And the pellet power should be very limited at long range, as to prevent shotgun sniping. IIRC, there is an actual "sniper shotgun" though. 
But the name eludes me at the moment.
(IRL, shotgun spread is pretty tight though, right?)
But the name eludes me at the moment. (IRL, shotgun spread is pretty tight though, right?)
I wouldn't mind the idea of a tighter grouping at short ranges. If you currently fire at wall from across a small room (say 30 feet) the spread is about 4 ft x 4 ft. Definately a little large.
I know people in other threads have discussed different ammo for the same guns, how about shotgun slugs? I'm not really that serious about the suggestion though...
I know people in other threads have discussed different ammo for the same guns, how about shotgun slugs? I'm not really that serious about the suggestion though...
check that http://www.planetunreal.com/infiltration/armory/ammunition.htm#spgold
Those slugs are.. Pure Devil !
Maybe not as good as the french one but still good!
