Perpetual Mover

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Fenrir

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In my level I trying to do a huge bell that swings 'ad vitam eternam' and that doesn't need to be triggered to move. I tried many trick with the mover's properties and tags but I dont understand these well.
Is There a simple way to do this kind of 'looping' mover ?

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You can't use a loop mover!! This kind of mover returns from keyframe 1 to 0 at instant, without moving along the defined way. Try what Mier suggested and set the trigger's radius very(!) large. Click on the green arrow it the top of the editing window and select view -> radi view! The radius should cover the entire map!

Another question relating to this! How do I make the bell itself? I can't figure out how you can do it with the 2DshapeEditor!
 
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Use a normal mover that you set to "trigger open timed". Define the bell mover's keyframe(s) to swing once (and all the other mover properties like movetime, sounds,...). Then
trigger the bell with a repeating "TimedTrigger". Let's say one swing lasts 5 secs then you set your "timedtrigger" to repeat every 5 or 6 secs; you have to see what looks best.


Hope that helps

Claude Meyer aka Mier

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Thanks guys! I tried and it looks perfect!!!
For now, I'm trying to synchronized the bell Clanger inside the bell with the bell itself. I gave it the same tag that I gave to the bell, but the two movers are not synchronized (It's stange isn't it ?). So, I'm working on.
I have a little question; to view the radi view in unrealEd2, There is no green arrow in the top of the editing window. where can I find it in this version?

To answer 8-4-7-2, myself I make the bell by sculpting it: 1) make a sphere brush with an extrapolation of 3 and give it an ellipsoid shape in the scale mode, add it. 2) substract the lower half then add a cone to give the shape of a bell. 3) substract a cone brush inside the bell.
With a good texture, this bell looks great in my belfry. With the singing movment it's now perfect! except for the clanger....he,he.
 
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To 8-4-7-2: in the 2D editor draw an f or an inverted V and revolve.

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Thanks, now I know how to build a bell!

I never used Ued2. But I meant the top of the four windows, not the top of the entire screen! But set the radius to 60000 or s.th. and it will be active whereever the player is.

Don't know about the mover thing.

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Aphex:
Fernir wants a bell that swings forth and back constantly. A loop mover does (when understood its script right) move 2 or more keyframes and at instant "jumps" from the last keyframe to the first, then moves again, and so on...
If you set a mover to "TriggerOpenTimed" and adjust the trigger's reapeat time with the mover's open time the mover will be triggers every 5(or whatever you want) seconds!
And when you set the trigger to a large raduis it will be triggered whereever the player is on the map. ==> The bell swings constantly!!
That's a simple and efective solution. So why making it more complicated than it is?

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Why not to make a loopmover with 3 keyframes (the third at the same position as the first).
So you wouldn't need that BIG trigger (using such a trigger with all players and bots that activate it can generate bugs or engine overload)
 
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Really you don't need that BIG trigger.
But if you want a perpetual mover you have to trigger it perpetualy ( the three keyframe mover is not a solution ).
I think there is a trigger that launches an event every x seconds. That's is a solution.
Another is to put a trigger, T1, that triggers the bell an another trigger, T2, and to configure T2 to wait a bit and after trigger T1.

The limit is your imagination...

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Just a note to the trigger I'd use...


Whith a TimedTrigger (Triggers->Trigger->TimedTrigger) you won't need to set any collisionradius. Just make sure it's set:

->[TimedTrigger]->[TimedTrigger]->[bRepeating] to true

->[TimedTrigger]->[Trigger]->[bInitiallyActive] to true

->[TimedTrigger]->[TimedTrigger]->[DelaySeconds] (Retrigger delay time)

If you do it this way you'll never have to take care if your mover gets triggered because it will be automaticly triggered from the beginning to the end of the level.

Cya

Claude Meyer aka Mier
 
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Cheers for that!
It seems that mine won't work because I'm using a LoopMover - I can get it to work ok with a normal mover.
Are there any other vars I should set for the loopmover? The script is very sparse!

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Mier

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I only experimented a bit with loopmovers. The only thing I can tell you is that I had to set the loopmover's initialstate to "loopmove" or else it would not move at all. AFAIK you can also trigger a loopmover with a repeating timed trigger.

Don't know much more that could help you...


Cya

Claude Meyer aka Mier
 
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