Violence??

Lance201 · Feb 14, 2000

Hi,

IÂ´ve just read in an germen newsgroup (www.heise.de) that military styled games are dangerous for younger people because may be they will become violent in real... . A more "comicstyle" FPS isnÂ´t that much dangerous in this way... And Soldiers of Fortune will not be released in germany because of this reason. What do the inf-community think about that?? I always discuss this problem with my girlfirend becuse she also things that people shouldnÂ´t play games where you shoot each other in a realistic way...

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Dragon · Feb 14, 2000

I think it all comes down to morals and how you are raised. If you are raised right as a child you are not going to go out shoting people. I have played video games for almost 17 years and I have never killed anyone. So it's alot of bull, just raise your kid right and there is no problem.

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INF_Neo · Feb 14, 2000

soldiers of fortune will be available in Germany. (I can tell)

I don't know what I should think. Sorry. Too many ideas...

ShakKen · Feb 15, 2000

I believe it's the parent's responsibility to gauge their child's physchological profile to see whether they're suceptable to violence.

I've been playing violent games since I was 9, however I'm not a crazed teen murderer. My 7-year old cousin on the other hand, plays playstation games like they are his life. So I'm keeping a close eye on him.

But such a generalisation is idiotic. Whether they're action figures, cartoons or games, every child is exposed to the same level of military psyke at one point or the other.

I know several young Rainbow6 players who want to join the military so they can protect their country(ies).

If anyone is to blame for the violence, it's the parents who don't moniter the upbringing of their children. So the parents of the trenchcoat mafia can take they're lawsuits, stick them up their a$$e$ and shut their holes.

Before pointing at other people, check how much dirt is under your own nails.

Lance201 · Feb 15, 2000

Hi Inf-Neo,

itÂ´s not the question if it will be available in Germany (Heroin is also "available"), itÂ´s a matter if it will be official released and it wonÂ´t!!

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INF_Neo · Feb 15, 2000

I think there will be a 'typical German version'. No blood, no bodies, no death....

MiscMan · Feb 15, 2000

Not living in Germany, I wouldn't know. But violent games are simply outlets to kill things in a nonviolent way. Just like hunting(doesnt kill people at least, keeps down deer population too) and most sports. I agreeable, erm, agree with shakken.

If you ask me i think violence that isn't glamorized shouldn't need a rating or what not. In fact, sheltering children is a disgrace if you ask me. I think it is better to kill programs than killing real people.

When it comes down to it, someone who plays games his/her whole life prolly won't have the nerve or idiocy to kill someone.

INF_Neo · Feb 16, 2000

It does also mak a difference wether it's useless ot not.
Kingpin <-> Rogue Spear

Jaguar · Feb 16, 2000

Rainbow Six and Rogue Spear Rule! Kingpin has too much F@%#&!!ing cursing even for ME to enjoy!

Waxx · Feb 16, 2000

Oh come on. I'm twelve years old and I LOVE guns! (they fascinate me) Do you REALLY think that if I shoot someone with an M9 online, I'm going to go out and buy an M9 and shoot someone? THOSE AREN'T REAL PEOPLE! THEY'RE PIXELS! THE GUNS AREN'T REAL (in the game), THE CHARACTERS AREN'T REAL, NOTHING ABOUT UT IS REAL! It's inside a computer, not in the real world. I admit, some people find it disturbing. Does that mean they have to play it? NO! The reason these people don't want violent games is they only care about themselves, not the other people who enjoy games like this. It is their problem, not ours. (sorry 'bout the rant, but this is the off-topic section)

Billdog · Feb 16, 2000

I find that Infiltration have a redeeming property: The goal ain't headless bloody shooting like most FPS, but to survive the game.

deathren · Feb 17, 2000

i do agree! I think it is the way the parents well um, Jeez i just cant find a word for that.

But i think, If a child plays a shooting game, and blasts PIXELS It deosnt effect them UNLESS Their parents dont treach them whats right! Heck, I shoot those bots up all day! and I think war, murder, and all that SUCKS! I would kill myself before i killed someone else! I play Army W/ my friends, iu play unreal/tribes and so on online! have i ever wanted to kill someone? NO

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deathren · Feb 17, 2000

Heck! Id just LOVE to shoot the person that thinks violent Tv/Games/toys ETC reffect kids! (I am Just kiiding about the shoot da person part, But i would like to chemw them out, You kmnow, Give em a peice of my mind!)
I would NEVER shoot ANHYTHING! (Well, It would be nice to nuke a mosquito with an AT4... but thats overkill! Ill settle with the flyswatter)

I have A Quadrillion toy guns at home, I have shoot up games up the ying yang! Humpfh. I just think these people who want to actually BAN these games from use are screwed up in the head...
Heck, My mom's favorate game is EverQuest! Go an' play that, be a trooll! There are didmembered dwarves all over the place!
and dont even get me started on those people who are P.O. ed at the harry potter books...

Waxx · Feb 17, 2000

No, you want to know what really sucks here? I'm a big military guy, and I always dress up as a soldier for halloween. Now, thanks to mister Dylan Klebold, eric Harris, and big mister liberal democrat, I can't find any realistic toy guns in the area! I don't know about you guys, but it really sucks here. Not even Toys-R-Us has one!

deathren · Feb 19, 2000

I can beleive ya, Waxx, But the Freddie Myeres down here where I live has a cool 45 acp pistol (Toy) for sale, spray it black, looks kewl.

Hey, mabye you could talk your dad into getting you an AT4 or somfin. /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

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Cap'n Beeb · Feb 21, 2000

To me, the whole idea of blaming FPSs on all the problems of the world is a bunch of bull shiznit. I have been playing games like Wolfenstein, Doom and nearly any other FPS you can name since I was 5, and never have I had the urge to kill someone, let alone SHOOT them. Sorry, I just kind rant on topics like these.

Loki · Feb 21, 2000

People have to blame someone. But they wont blame themselves for screwing up if their kid/friend, goes on a rampage.
It also depends on how things fall into place for the kid/person (teasing, harasment, ect) NOT just games

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Cap'n Beeb · Feb 21, 2000

Exactly my point Loki. I got one of those Outback Dusters for Christmas, and wear it to school everyday since, and everywhere I go I hear hushed whispers of "Columbine", "Colorado, BOOM" and other dumb crap like that, but I have more brains than to go and kill someone. Thanks for making my point.

Loki · Feb 22, 2000

No problem. I share the same views too.

PS. Outback Dusters?

Cap'n Beeb · Feb 22, 2000

Its sort of like a trench coat, but Australlian (SP?) Very comfy /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Water-proof to boot.

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