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Keiichi
7th Apr 2000, 06:42 AM
Just wondering if anyone on this forum is a fan of anime (Japanese animation)? I've got to get my total number of posts up somehow. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-Keiichi

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If the past is an idea that can only occur in the here-and-now, and the future is also just a concept happening strictly in the present, is there really a past and future? Or just a continuum of present moments?

Snakeye
7th Apr 2000, 07:38 AM
Not really a fan, but I like both anime and manga quite well.
Does anybody know the Gunsmith Cats?

Snakeye /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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ShakKen
7th Apr 2000, 08:35 AM
Watakushi Otaku des!!! =D

Gunsmith Cats are the bomb! Aim for the top!

[This message has been edited by ShakKen (edited 04-07-2000).]

Bad.Mojo
7th Apr 2000, 11:20 AM
Gunsmith cats ****in' right!

Ghost in the Shell was pretty l33t too, but that whole speech on the boat was annoying


NG Evangelion was just to sweet to be accurately described.

Bad.Mojo
7th Apr 2000, 11:20 AM
Gunsmith cats ****in' right!

Ghost in the Shell was pretty l33t too, but that whole speech on the boat was annoying


NG Evangelion was just to sweet to be accurately described.

mp*lennon
7th Apr 2000, 03:50 PM
I like some anime, like Ninja Scroll for example...It's brilliant.

Twinkacide
7th Apr 2000, 07:48 PM
NGE, serial experiments lain, Rurouni Kenshin, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Record of the Lodoss Wars, Grave of the Fireflies, Mononoke Hime, Ghost in the Shell, Vision of Escaflowne... gah! There's just too much good anime out there. Grave of the Fireflies is probably one of my favorites, completely NOT what people expect from anime, and an incredbly powerful film to boot(Don't bother with it though if you have no attention span /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

ShakKen
8th Apr 2000, 04:56 AM
Heheh. Who knows? Maybe INF 4.0 will have a Zasteba M-23! 8D

Keiichi
8th Apr 2000, 05:09 AM
Hey, yeah! And maybe even some mecha! Gotta' love that spider tank.

-Keiichi

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If the past is an idea that can only occur in the here-and-now, and the future is also just a concept happening strictly in the present, is there really a past and future? Or just a continuum of present moments?

Chand
8th Apr 2000, 06:48 AM
Macross - Southern Cross - Mospeada

a.k.a Robotech

Nuff said...

Also maybe Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Record of the Lodoss War, Dragonball-Z... but nothing can touch Robotech really.

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ShakKen
8th Apr 2000, 10:19 AM
Chand: Shhhh!

you'll give up my future TC plans!!!

AgentSmith
8th Apr 2000, 04:14 PM
I don't mean to be a non-conformist but I think anime is pretty c-rate artwork. I mean come-one the people have hair like they shoved a fork in a electrical socket or something. Anime eyes are enlarged to a huge size and they usually have no pupils.. Anime is the only cartooning I've known to have animated blood/gore to an extreme entext as well as sexual themes. And why is it that everytime something exciting happens the background gets all colorful and it's going like 900 miles per hour while they're doin' stunts in mid-air.. Its so unrealistic, it's like a cult, you can't go anywhere these days without seeing a Dragon Ball Z shirt or a pokemon shirt.. It's crazy. This artwork isn't professional nor exspressive.

I'm sorry if I offeneded any anime-lovers out there /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Twinkacide
8th Apr 2000, 04:38 PM
AgentSmith: It's a matter of taste, really. I happen to think the stylized look of anime is rather nice. And, of course, the look depends on the artist who's doing the work.

As for your analysis of anime's content, realise that anime/manga is just an art style. You can find any genre of traditional film in anime(even porn... http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~unreal/modcentral/html/supergrin.gif ek: ), and some of them are pretty damn crappy. Dragonball Z is REALLY overblown style, not animated very well, and despite it's populatiry is hardly the best series out there. Pokemon isn't even worth mentioning in this discussion- Sure, it's anime, but it has no place next to the other stuff mentioned in the thread /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If you want to see some anime of a diffrent caliber, try and find Grave of the Fireflies or serial experiments lain. You still may not like them, of course, but don't think every bit of anime out there is like DBZ/Pokemon/Sailor Moon =P

[This message has been edited by Twinkacide (edited 04-08-2000).]

AgentSmith
8th Apr 2000, 07:27 PM
Well, I supose so.. I've come to the conclusion that most anime shows/movies have more creative and better storylines, but then lack the good animating talents of other cartooning. I dunno, I heard from my Japanese friend that in Japan little kids watch anime-porn and I'm thinkin' what are they thinking? Japan obviousley has a different definition of what is socially acceptable. Ex. In ninja scrolls, like someone mentioned in this thread.. my friend told me about this and it shocked me, I heard someone got raped, people were decapatated, impaled, dismembered.. the whole 9-yards.. Now don't get me wrong I'm not some pansy that clenches at the sight of blood, in a matter of fact I enjoy a few gore-filled movies now and then but this Anime stuff just has a shady reputation looming under (or over).. My thoughts were that cartoons were for kids, I've never heard of a cartoon wear people were dismembered.. I can safely say EVERY anime film I have seen, someone has either gotten brutally dismembered or tortured.. the women are drawn like anorexic prostitutes and it just plain doesn't intrest me.. I'm just not an anime-guy, sorry.

Keiichi
8th Apr 2000, 07:51 PM
The best examples of what anime can be (at least in my opinion) is Akira and Ghost in the Shell. Those were the first two anime movies that I ever saw (aside from the Thundercats/Transformers/Voltron TV shows, but I didn't even know they were anime at the time). Both movies are hi-quality films with deep storylines and spectacular special effects.

-Keiichi

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If the past is an idea that can only occur in the here-and-now, and the future is also just a concept happening strictly in the present, is there really a past and future? Or just a continuum of present moments?

Twinkacide
8th Apr 2000, 08:16 PM
Akira and GitS are both good, but I think lain and Grave of the Fireflies are better examples of what anime can be. NGE is decent in that respect too, with the religous stuff in there.

Oh, and if you liked Akira, there's going to be a re-printing of the manga in it's original black and white here in the states. Defently worth picking them up if you're a fan, the mangas are almost always better than the movie, in both plot and art quality /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bad.Mojo
8th Apr 2000, 09:16 PM
The part of Akira that scared the mortal piss outta me was where the teddy bears come to life and everything starts bleeding milk and that weird ass trippy "dink-dink" music is playing in the background. I have a fear of inamite things coming to life. Anybody remember that ISO-9000 level from Earth Worm Jim 2 that had the jumping filing cabinets? I hid behind my friends chair while I made him play through it. He laughed. I kicked his ass.

Bad.Mojo
8th Apr 2000, 09:17 PM
I WANT MY TENTACLE RAPE PORN!

If anybody doubts that the Japanese are sexually messed up, they can openly by the soiled panties of young school girls and are obsessed with violent rapings, but full frontal nudity is outlawed. I question those judgments, really

Bad.Mojo
8th Apr 2000, 09:18 PM
Oh, and AgentSmith, if thats how you feel I suggest you avoid the masterpiece A Clockwork Orange. I think Clockwork Orange would make a wicked anime remake.

Corin
8th Apr 2000, 09:19 PM
I haven't really seen all that much anime, but Appleseed, and Akira were the best ones by far. I also thought that The Bubblegum Crisis was pretty good, and, believe it or not, Fist of the North Star.

ShakKen
9th Apr 2000, 02:43 AM
Agentsmith: Agreed that anime has it's discrepencies, but I strongly prefer those to the typical american superhero/heroine/mutant/pulp fiction cartoons.

Even the best examples ai:Spawn, can't hold a candle to OAVs such as Akira, Appleseed or Nausicaa(Warriors of the wind).

Of course, i refer to the more serious MA and above rated animes. Pokemon?! *ugh*

Chand
9th Apr 2000, 05:21 AM
Ok now... are we so bored that we gotta start comparing Japanese and American anime ? American anime doesn't stand a chance. Historically, Looney Tunes are great, but the crap starts from Hanna-Barbera on...in the 60's.

And of course, the lowest point was the 80's... AgentSmith, if you want to talk abour c-rate artwork, then let's talk about Transformers (first season), G.I.Joe, Gobots, He-Man, She-Ra and the countless clones. The drawing style is the same in all of them, storylines are so badly serialized that they suck completely (i.e. good guys ALWAYS win 2 minutes before the end, to leave some time left to the moral of the story a'la He-Man), the layering of the characters against the backdrop is horrible and awful and it was so easy to spot looping backdrops all the time...

Japanese animation, though it shares with american the own art style and drawing guidelines between different stories (i.e., He-Man looks like She-Ra looks like Transformers looks like G.I.Joe, etc... Akira looks like GitS looks like well, anything japanese)... but the thing with anime is that , except some cases, at least *tries* to strive for art and style. American anime never did that (the rain sequence in the middle of GitS is a perfect example).

Briefly, I believe that Japanes anime is all about art, action and storyline. American anime is all about dumbed-down, kiddie funny stuff (with exception, of course...don't flame me).

I still have to see some american anime with a decent, intelligent storyline on tv.

I sayeth....

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[This message has been edited by Chand (edited 04-09-2000).]

Chand
9th Apr 2000, 05:25 AM
Of course, the exception is South Park /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Go Cows...

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deathren
9th Apr 2000, 06:18 AM
I like Digimon

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