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AgentSmith
27th Apr 2000, 01:31 PM
What if you could create combos of weapons using the akimbo feature?? What is you could hold an uzi in one hand and then another one-handed weapon in the other.. people could make awesome combos!

P.S. Im still gonna use akimbo desert eagles /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Mr. T
27th Apr 2000, 03:09 PM
That would be wierd. Not sure if it would be very effective either.

btw, has anyone ever used akimbo DEs in real life (or akimbo anything for that matter). I wonder how difficult it would be to run around trying to shoot a moving target with akimbo DEs. Just curious.

thornz
27th Apr 2000, 06:10 PM
I asked this same question a while ago and the reply was essentially "it sucks, accuraccy was horrible, never doing it again". I also got a response from the team saying that there was discussion over whether or not this feature should be included within the team.

nobody could go akimbo with an uzi and be a threat to anything but the ceiling.

Mr. T
27th Apr 2000, 07:31 PM
I think I remember someone (gryphon?) saying uzis won't be akimbo-capable. I would think DEs would be almost just as hard to shoot accurately akimbo style, but I wouldn't know for sure.

INF_Neo
27th Apr 2000, 09:17 PM
I've talekd to someone who has shot the Desert Eagle .50
It's like hand shaking with an earthquake, you HAVE to use both hands or.. I don't know, it just wouldn't work /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mr. T
28th Apr 2000, 02:53 AM
Use both hands, or God only knows what might happen.

AgentSmith
28th Apr 2000, 05:27 PM
Okay.. I can't imagine it being really hard I would assume you would fire one in your right hand, then the left, then the right... not at the same time.. By the way, shotguns can be akimbo too.. I've never really handled a gun though, but since it is possible they shouldn't exclude it right away..

If it doesn't make it into the game, I'll definitely make a mod for it someday /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BTW:

-Agentsmith shot an DE on the Matrix with only one hand

-James Bond fired a walther as well as an uzi once.

-Terminator used two shotguns at once before

-Neo fired two uzi's and some strange pistols at the same time in the gov't building.

If its so hard, howcome movie makes seem to think otherwise?

-Lost-
28th Apr 2000, 05:48 PM
because it looks cooler!

movies use blanks, so there is not as much kick back.

Mr. T
28th Apr 2000, 05:52 PM
Neo and Agent Smith were inside a computer program, the Terminator is a robot, and James Bond also shoots explosives out of his pen.

I think you get my point.

das_ben
28th Apr 2000, 05:56 PM
lol mr t. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Twinkacide
28th Apr 2000, 09:32 PM
Smith, if THAT's the kind of thing you want, wait for Action UT (http://aut.action-web.net). Every example you cited was from a movie. Movie action is not what Infiltration is about, as movie action has little to do with real life combat.

mp*lennon
2nd May 2000, 09:55 AM
I really hope the "small" caliber pistols (beretta, Five-Seven and SOCOM) can be used akimbo in INF.. The Uzi would be nice to use akimbo too, but DE akimbo gets a big no-no from me.. ^_^

Snakeye
2nd May 2000, 02:10 PM
If you like movies, you surely have seen 'Dirty Harry'. I saw a picture of Clint fireing a live .44 round, not the crap they use in the movies, and he really looked impressed - even more since he shot it single handed.
And if we are at Terminator and Matrix, there is that funny and very realistic film called 'Aliens' -> they use 10mm ARs with 100 round mags and a pump-action 20mm grenadelauncher, why not add this too.
And maybe some Phasors from Star Trek, and the cool Light Sword from Star Wars.

In a movie everybody in this MB capable of carrying two guns of any type would be able to fire them akimbo - or a Minigun..
Fact is, that films are not made to be realistic, but to earn money. I'm sure Spielberg didn't get the Oscars for makeing realistic films, not even 'Schindlers List' was close to reality, at least not to that, what happened..

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Mr. T
2nd May 2000, 09:02 PM
It's pretty hard to make a film "real". There are always flaws. But I thought Saving Private Ryan seemed to be pretty damn close, and a lot of WWII vets agreed.

Snakeye
3rd May 2000, 06:16 PM
Have to agree about 'Saving Pvt Ryan', though I don't know many WW2 vets it was the first film I was really shocked when I saw it for the first time; boy I really felt like being there myself..
Really liked it..
But I think 'Full Metal Jacket' is also quite 'real'

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AgentSmith
3rd May 2000, 09:20 PM
But my point is... if the INF team is going for realism than why don't let akimbo in INF... I mean its not physically impossible, you do have two hands, and even if the aiming is ****ty... I wanna hold two AT4's with pride /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gryphon
3rd May 2000, 10:26 PM
I'll say it once more:

Dual PISTOLS only. Accuracy will suck. Included for the "cool" aspect only. NO DUAL AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, PERIOD. End of discussion.

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Snakeye
4th May 2000, 04:21 AM
Dual Uzis would be alright for me, as long as acurracy would be reflected in a 'realistic' way.
That would most people lead to not use them..

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-Lost-
4th May 2000, 07:47 PM
why do you guys think dual uzis is more feasable than dual DEs? i mean, an uzi is a smaller caliber, but still, it's a bigger gun than a pistol...

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WHY
4th May 2000, 08:38 PM
what I was thinking is why not have a box where you could turn akimbo on/off on the server menu ?

thornz
5th May 2000, 01:47 PM
jesus, you guys seem insistent on wasting the programmers time on a single feature that you'll toy with once, realize it sucks, and then never play again.

give it the hell up!

Snakeye
5th May 2000, 01:58 PM
Simple question simple answer:

1. I think all akimbo variants are same useless. The Uzi just is a little bit more useless than other all.

2. The Uzis weight is rather a pro factor than a con; together with its smaller caliber it would have less kickback, improving accuracy.

3. I really don't know why everybody wants to fire a .50 caliber weapon akimbo!! There are better ways to die than end up with a DE in your forehead..

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thornz
9th May 2000, 12:08 AM
is kickback the same as muzzle rise? The two are different, I thought, since there have been automatic handguns (yes, handguns) produced that were so light that the accuracy flew all over the place b/c you couldnt keep the dang thing down. p

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Snakeye
9th May 2000, 03:07 AM
Well kickback and muzzle rise are not exactly the same, but they have the same origin.
The kickback and muzzle rise are quite equally proportional at the same weapon, when you use different ammo.
Handguns tend to have more muzzle rise, since you don't absorb the energy with the shoulder.
But a heavier weapon has less kickback/muzzle rise than a light one, using the same caliber.(but there are limits as to how much you improve your gun adding weight - there is the point, when accuracy goes to hell because you cannot hold it anymore..)

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