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Breydel
30th Apr 2000, 01:55 AM
Hi,

Bought the movie Ronin on DVD yesterday and I noticed the H&K grnade launcher from INF was in there. I didn't knew what it should look like but it looked very similar to the model in INF. Saw it right away.

A little further in the movie was a heavy machine gun that looked exactly like the one in Opposing Force for Half-Life. For the rest there were some handguns, MP5's and M16's but these tend to look the same everywhere.

I was wondering if you know of any other good movies where I can see some of the weapons that appear in MODs like INF. I already have The Matrix and Heat on DVD. That scene near the end certainly is a nice firearms showcase. The TEC-9, Uzi, ... it's all there.


Thanks in advance,
brey

ShakKen
30th Apr 2000, 02:58 AM
There were no tec-9s in the Matrix Btw=)

mp*lennon
30th Apr 2000, 09:23 AM
Hard-Boiled...the best action movie ever, and loads of guns. LOADS OF GUNS.

Breydel
30th Apr 2000, 09:31 AM
Thanks for that title.

No TEC-9's? What were they then? It's in the slow motion part with the policemen.


Wait wasn't it an Inigram then?

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INF_Neo
30th Apr 2000, 02:32 PM
It was the Scorpion

WizBiz
30th Apr 2000, 02:49 PM
Rogue Force is available at blockbuster as a new release. Its close to a "B" like movie with some known actors in it but is very enjoyable. There is plenty of modern special forces style guns and "Infiltration" style action.

Check it out.... Its worth the 3-4 bucks . =)

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ShakKen
1st May 2000, 03:19 AM
and before anyone else says it, The SWAT troopers in the abandoned apartment in the Matrix we're NOT using MP5s.

Catalyst
1st May 2000, 04:51 AM
What were they using?

INF_Neo
1st May 2000, 07:02 AM
yeah, I always thought it were MP5s.

ShakKen
1st May 2000, 09:03 AM
SIG 551 carbines. Watch closely at the bit where they are running into the basement. You can see the thick magazines and the folding stocks.

Also, when the 'possessed' trooper drops his weapon, and the camera focuses on his feet, you can see the SIG recoil spring cap screw and the flash suppressor(which on an MP5 is rarely used and envelopes the exposed area of the barrel completely).

Breydel
1st May 2000, 10:03 AM
Whow Shakken, you certainly have an eye for detail. I think I will have to watch the movie in slow motion again.

About these kinds of movies again then. Do you know any other titles? I didn't find Hard Boiled in the IMDB and Rogue Force is not available in Europe. These are the ones I liked the most so far:

Ronin - very good
Heat - very good
The Matrix - good
The Rock - quite good

What about Léon? Is that a good action movie?

Oitucrem
1st May 2000, 12:15 PM
Leon RULES! Although not so much as an action movie... think of it as an action/drama/comedy/tradegy-mix.

MrTicky
1st May 2000, 12:29 PM
The Rock = One of the BEST OUT THERE!!!
Ronin = EXCELLENTO!!! MAGNIFICIONTAY!!!
Heat = Very Good
The Matrix = Very Good

ShakKen
1st May 2000, 12:44 PM
US Marshals for Glocks.

"Get yourself a Glock, and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."

Yeah baby =)

Breydel
1st May 2000, 02:59 PM
I'm going to rent Léon one of these days. After seeing Jean Reno in Ronin he's one of my favorite actors.

Here are a few other movies I haven't seen yet and I'd like to rent. Any comments on them?

Pulp Fiction (yeah, I know, shame on me /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)
Goodfellas
LA Confidential
Reservoir Dogs

Cunubelin
1st May 2000, 03:43 PM
If you really want to see Jean-Reno in action, rent Godzilla. He actually TALKS in that one /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif
Or why not one of my old time favs; Le Grand Bleu. In that one he speaks not at all or very little which is pretty normal for him. /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

My current favourite movies;
Mulan
AntZ
A Bugs Life
Das Boot

Ok, you can kick my butt now /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

C.

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mp*lennon
1st May 2000, 04:33 PM
Cunubelin:
Anyone whose fave movies list includes Das Boot and Le Grand Bleu (the Big Blue) has my respect. Both of them own. Any action lovers should stay away from Le Grand Bleu tho.

Breydel:
Try searching Hard-Boiled thru IMDB with it's original name, "Lashou shentan". It's directed by the god of action, John Woo and stars Chow Yun-Fat in his finest action movie role ever. Best action movie ever. The 45 minute hospital shootout just has to be seen to be believed (and LOADS of guns in it..Calico carbine, Krinkov, M16+M203, Beretta M92F, Colt 1911, Ithaca shotty, Mp5K, Tec-9, FA-MAS...they're all there.)

mp*lennon
1st May 2000, 04:40 PM
And while youre at it, check out The Killer too, it has some amazing action scenes too... John Woo directing Chow Yun-Fat and Danny Lee in one of the best Gun-Fu (not Kung-Fu) movies ever. Loads of guns in that too (and a incredible end scene...)

"One Vicious Killer. One Relentless Cop... ...Ten Thousand Bullets."

"The Biggest Body Count in History"

Yeah baby!

Breydel
1st May 2000, 05:17 PM
Thanks very much for the extra info mp*lennon. I've found Hard Boiled and The Killer now in the IMDB and they both seem like exactly the type of movie I like. I searched a little more on John Woo and came up with these 2 titles:

1. Broken Arrow (Slater/Travolta). Not an action movie in the Heat-genre but more that typical Hollywood action. But I love seeing Travolta as the bad guy in this movie. Slater doesn't act to bad either.

2. Face Off. This one I haven't seen but it sounds like a good one. Anyone seen it?

Beppo
1st May 2000, 06:54 PM
Face Off - is really cool... you should rent it

Con-Air - also great! much action and some weapon 'examples' too

Erazor - well Arnie is not everyones favorite, but this movie is cool too (and features some nice guns also)

to "Das Boot" aso.... great stuff !

Tremors - the "In the Land of the Rocket Worms" movie (the german title)... wow, have never seen soooooo much weapons within some seconds of a movie.... the crazy weapon freaks almost have everything.... from handguns, machine guns, assault rifles to elephant killers... everything.....

some other cool movies:

Bad Guys
and
Cold Blooded

Beppo

Oitucrem
1st May 2000, 07:16 PM
Face off is really really good - especially in the beginning (gotta love Cage as a terrorist). Gotta go with yall, Das Boot rules!

If you want Arnold you can always watch True Lies, but it sucks... except as a comedy. An Arnold movie that's actually good is End of Days... guess I like it because of the religous feel - it really is the end of days.

If you want body count watch Hotshots 2!! It has an actual body -count- in the scene where Topper Harley slaughters an entire camp of evil Iraq ppl! It also features great weapons such as the ChickenArrow of Death, the Machinegun of Unlimited Ammo, the Boxerglove Bazooka and the mouth-enlargening handgrenade! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Beppo
1st May 2000, 07:31 PM
hahaha...( edited by myself /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif was much longer... /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif )

yeah.. almost forgot this one /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif ... HotShots 1 and 2 are really cool....

Loaded Weapon 1 ... well same type of movie genre... just cool

and for the religious feel.....
God's Army
..... one of the best movies ever... if you like good-evil themes with a religious touch

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Breydel
1st May 2000, 07:41 PM
LOL, you moved the thread after I hit reply and before I hit submit. Gave quite an ugly message. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But I understand, got a little off-topic. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Anyway, here's my reply. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Con-Air: Seen it and indeed a good movie.

Erazor: Haven't seen it but I have seen enough Schwarzie movies for all my life. Erazor is one of a few I haven't seen.

Das Boot: Is this like The Hunt for Red October and Crimson Tide? If so, I'll add it to my list.

Tremors: Hmm, isn't this that movie with Kevin Bacon with that dinosaur-like creature under the sand? Is not bad but I would more call this a family movie, not action. Didn't knew there were that many weapons in it though.

Bad Boys. Yes! One of my all time favorite comic action movies. I just love this kind of humor. Already own the DVD.

Cold Blooded. Don't know this one, didn't find it in the IMDB either.

True lies. Seen it, was pretty good. Nice Chinese babe. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

End of Days. Haven't seen it yet. I'll add it to the rent list.

Hotshots 2, nah, not my cup of tea.

Breydel
1st May 2000, 07:47 PM
Ooh and BTW Beppo, could you please edit that hahahahahahaha... thing? You made my browser window go wild to the right. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Beppo
1st May 2000, 07:48 PM
Cold Blooded... its a movie with "Brandon" from Beverly Hills 90blahblah... well that should erase it automatically from each top-list... but this one is really cool.
"Brandon" plays a 'cold blooded' (and a bit dumb) killer....

Beppo
1st May 2000, 07:51 PM
edited /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

Breydel
1st May 2000, 07:59 PM
Well since we now start on the second page it wasn't really needed. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

OK I now found Coldblooded via the actor search. It scored higher than I expected. But seeing Jason Priestley in any other type of movie than highschool-ish looks super-unbelievable IMO. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cunubelin
2nd May 2000, 02:08 PM
Breydel
Das Boot is not like a mix between the two sub movies you mentioned. It's a realistic depiction of life aboard a german U-boat during WWII. A lot of waiting for a little action BUT the atmosphere of the movie alone makes it worth to have seen. If only once.
Also there's this technosh*t song that was all the rave a few years back.

Broken Arrow - Nice aircraft. Wonder what type it was supposed to be as the cockpit was the same size as my livingroom! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Still, quite good actionflick /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

Golden Eye - Worst darn movie I ever saw!
I mean, for crying out loud, what sane helicopter designer puts an emergency stop button that acts as an ejection button conveniently high enough so you can hit it with your head?!?!?

Gimme McGyver any day of the week! At least he is SUPPOSED to be a bit "unreal" /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

C.

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Breydel
2nd May 2000, 04:49 PM
I bought 4 DVDs this afternoon. Face/Off, Broken Arrow, Rob Roy (I like historical movies big time) and the director's cut from Das Boot which is like 212 minutes of film. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'll let you know what I think about them. Dunno which ones I will watch first. Still have Crimson Tide, Bad Boys and Titanic lying here as well. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Breydel
2nd May 2000, 04:50 PM
Ooh and by the way. I liked that song "Das Boot" by U96 from 1992 big time. I'm not too fond of techno music but that song was nice.

emergencey... emergency... /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cunubelin
2nd May 2000, 06:17 PM
Man, oh man...
You're nuts. You know that don't you? /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

Being a man of many movies myself I can tell you that Titanic is a great movie if you like CGI /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
It's about the only reason I watch that one occasionally. That and Bill Paxton! hehehe
Almost forgot about the Swedes!
Watch Leo play cards to win his ticket to the Titanic. The guys he's playing with are TRYING to speak swedish... Considering the quality of the rest of the picture couldn't they've hired some REAL Swedes for those parts? hehehe

Since you BOUGHT Das Boot, hope you like it! /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

C.

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Breydel
2nd May 2000, 07:07 PM
LOL.

Well I did not bought Titanic for Di Caprio. The only part I like is the sinking of the boat. I think that has been perfectly done. On the big screen in theatres it looked so very realistic.

I'm going to watch Face/Off first, Das Boot later. I'm very curious for Face/Off since many seem to like it much more than Broken Arrow and I already found that one very good.


Ooh, I didn't find Hard Boiled in the DVD store and I visited 3 places. I think it's not out yet in Belgium, or else not very popular. But anyway, Face/Off is from Woo as well. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Still... when I read something like "and LOADS of guns in it..Calico carbine, Krinkov, M16+M203, Beretta M92F, Colt 1911, Ithaca shotty, Mp5K, Tec-9, FA-MAS...they're all there" then I wanna see this movie so badly. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mp*lennon
2nd May 2000, 09:00 PM
Breydel:

I used to get my Woo movies from www.hmv.co.uk (http://www.hmv.co.uk) or from a local import video shop.

Breydel
2nd May 2000, 11:09 PM
Thanks for that link but I rather buy the DVDs when in a shop than via the net. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Just saw Face/Off. Well I didn't like that movie at all. The whole face change idea was so unrealistic IMO. Like his own wife would not notice the difference. For example at the end when the real Travolta takes back the ring from the harpooned one, compare the hands. They have totally different hands, something a wife should notice. And then I'm not even talking about other bodyparts... /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The movie was mediocre for watching but certainly not worth buying the DVD IMO. But I know... my fault. Did the same with Ronin and I really loved that movie, one of my favorite movies of all time. But now with Face/Off I learned my lesson. I better go rent the VHS or DVD first next time. Face/Off was way too hollywood for me to be fun. Like the speedboat race... so typical Hollywood action style. I like the Heat or Ronin kind of action movie a lot more. Lesser explosions and a far more believable story.

mp*lennon
5th May 2000, 09:53 AM
Blasphemy!

Anyways, if you didn't like Face/Off, you prolly won't like Hard-Boiled or The Killer... The action scenes in both films are terribly unrealistic (and brilliant)...but there's just something ****ing cool about Chow Yun-Fat sliding down a bannister while emptying 36 rounds (if I remember correctly) from a pair of Colt 1911s, riddling two triad gunmen with bullets.

And the scene where CYF wipes out an entire triad army with a Ithaca shotgun and a MP5 is too cool to be believed.

Anyways, if you didn't like the way the action scenes were done in Face/Off, you won't like Hard-Boiled or The Killer (or any other John Woo movies...except for maybe Bullet in the Head, since it's atleast quasi-realistic.)

Breydel
5th May 2000, 10:08 AM
The action scenes were not that bad. The big shooting in the house was nice to watch. But the whole idea of ripping someone's face off and change it with another one.. I didn't like that. I find the Mission Impossible (TV series) way of using other people's faces a lot more believable. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I watched Broken Arrow two days ago. That's a very good one IMO but more as an adventure/action movie. Travolta's acting in there is very good. "Would you mind not shooting at the thermo nucleair weapons!" or that scene at the very end where Slater mentions something about Travolta beeing the bad guy: "Yeah, ain't it cool?"

Started seeing Das Boot yesterday. Very good movie indeed. But this is the director's cut edition and it's 212 minutes in total. Since I was a bit tired I stopped after they got to Spain. The crossing of Gibraltar and the end is for tonight. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I also own Crimson Tide on DVD. Gonna watch that one tonight as well. I'll let you know which one I liked better.

Cunubelin
6th May 2000, 04:40 PM
Methinks your vote is gonna be Crimson Tide /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif
Well, maybe not. Anyways you have the better part of Das Boot to look forward to. The ending is a real blast!

Crimson Tide...
Don't really know what an Ohio-class SSBN looks like on the inside but what the movie made me think of was NCC-1701 A-Z Enterprise of Star Trek fame.
The idea however is mindboggling! Tell me when you've watched it and I'll try to remember what I meant /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

C.

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Ignato
6th May 2000, 06:01 PM
Goddamn! I missed a wicked discussion about sweet movies. Breydel, you have to see Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs. There is nothing like watching them for the first time.
Why do you think I have 2517 in my name? /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

I really hope the INF team can make the grenades explode after you pull the pin and die...so I pull a Mathilda on all these dumb bots. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Go......GO CLEAN! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Breydel
6th May 2000, 06:19 PM
Well they both are quite different. Crimson Tide is in a much newer sub but I don't like the way the story is told so much. It seems very predictable. It's like the director said: "OK, what do we want in it? We go to crucial depth once, and we blow up another sub once." Das boot on the contrary is a lot lesser predictable but since the movie is from 1981 the image quality is a little lesser. But for a 20 year old movie it still looks good. Crimson Tide is a typical Hollywood movie (sorry for using the term over and over again) while Das Boot is more about the life on board the sub.

I liked Das Boot a little more but me thinks The Hunt For Red October is my fav. sub movie.

But you're right, the best part of the movie (Das Boot) is the crossing of the Street of Gibraltar until the end.

I'll go and rent Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Ficton prolly after a few weeks. Also Léon and LA Confidential are on my list of "must-rent".

As for DVD, I bought First Knight yesterday. I enjoy historical movies a lot. Can't wait to get my hands on Braveheart and The Messenger (Joan of Arc here in Europe).

Cunubelin
7th May 2000, 05:08 AM
What I found scary is the question of the protocols guarding the release of nuclear weapons. If I understand it correctly Crimson Tide is LOOSELY based on a real event. Could be a rumour, I don't know...
You're right the movie is very Hollywoodish /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif but it has a good point in questioning the above. The captain of a nuclear submarine is about the most powerful man on earth.
So... What if...? /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif

The Hunt for Red October
Also Hollywoodish but still a good movie to watch every now and then. I have the game for my C-64 as well as Red Storm Rising.
RSR, now THERE'S a book that should be filmed methinks /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif Would make a great warmovie if they could pull it off.
Then again, just about any of Tom Clancy's books would make great movies if done correctly.

Finally, Das Boot - The ending
Talk about irony! They make it all the way back from the bottom of Gibraltar to their port in France and just when they're about to leave the sub it gets bombed into oblivion!
Man...They deserved to live! At least a few of them survived. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ok, I'm done now
C.

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ShakKen
7th May 2000, 05:32 AM
One of the better action movies I've seen is The Assignment. Pretty old movie but it lets you have a look at some interesting weapons like the mini uzi and the vz-70. Not to mention the integrally silenced AK-74 at the end.

You also see Donald Sutherland pull off PROPER double taps with a 1911 at the very end.

INF_Neo
7th May 2000, 07:48 AM
what are PROPER double taps. Is there a way to do them incorrectly???

ShakKen
7th May 2000, 10:09 AM
A real double tap is a very natural thing. You aim and pull the trigger twice VERY quickly . Then you aim again and repeat. So in effect, you are putting in one aimed shot, and one snapshot.

Many people describe double taps as 2 quick aimed shots. This is incorrect.