Security concerns at the Sydney Olympics

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OICW

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I am REALLy worried about security at the Olympics this year. I mean, the Aussie SAS hardly has any proper surveillence or communications equipment. Also, we don't have the necessary equipment to use in case of an hostage situation eg. fibre optic cameras, buys etc. "Apparently" in case of an terrorist attack the SAS's BlackHawks will come in to the rescure. Those ignorant losers!!! Sorry, but haven't they heard of MAN PORTABLE SAMS!!!!!!!!!!! Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the US President's VH-60 Blackhawk fitted with the Black Hole IR suppression system? The Aussie blackhawks should be fitted with them but our government is far too dumb and stingy to bother fitting them for the Olympics. Also, the Aussie SAS has had literally no experience in combat situations or hostage rescures. Sure, they might have decent training but they have no experience. I really am concerned about this. I haven't even come to the part about Osa Bin Laden who has threatened to attack during the Olympics. it's far too easy to disperse a chemical or biological agent in the trains or even the stadium. ALSO they might even have a nuclear weapon!! As far as I know, we don't have many (or any) chemical or biological experts or nuclear experts. Besides, we don't even have the equipment for dealing with defusing such weapons. Gryphon, you would know about this sort of thing and our SAS right? I am seriously scared guys, I really am.

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Zundfolge

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methinks you worry too much.

There were threats on the olympics in Atlanta, and it's much easier to get into and out of the US then Australia (especialy with weapons/explosives).


The biggest security for the Sydney Olympics is the Pacific Ocean.

Plus the Austrailian government in it's infinate wisedom has disarmed all it's subjects so it would be impossible for any violence to occur on the entire contenent (because we all know that when guns are illegal that nobody ever even thinks of doing evil)
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Derek

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Yeah man, just get Clark on the line, he'll be glad to send over Ding to help you out with any trouble you might run into...

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jaunty

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dun worry bout it

i live not far from the stadium, bout 15 mins dirve, and if one more f*cking blackhawk wakes me up at night i'm gonna get my own SAM launcher, seriously tho, our SAS is as good as the pommie gherkas (spelling) i know the gherkas are mostly a combat unit but its all the same to me, anyway we're fine, i saw a training excercise a fwe days ago, dont tell me we don't have equipment, mp5 navy's all round except one dude with a benelli M3, thye know what they're doing, and i thikn they'd have bi-chemists/nuclear dudes, on hand, just in case, but i doubt they'd manage to get the nukes/gases in here unless they were already here which i doubt

if anyone messes with the olympics it'll be Mike Knigt, i think thats his official job, screwing the olympics/head of SOCOG,

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Katalyst

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All this talk makes me feel inspired to blow that ugly opera house right into the ocean and watch it sink. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Oh just joking I wouldn't bomb the opera house.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
 

OICW

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If i hear one more bullshit comment about R6, I'll get an OICW, go to Shakken's house and ask him to take back his comments. This should be incentive for u guys to shut up about Rainbow Six. About my eariler post, I mean about chemical or bioloical weapons that it is far to easy to kill a number of people esp in a crowded place. The agent or poison doesn't have to be a genetically altered virus for goodness shake! it could just be anthrax or even smallpox! I clearly remember the 1995 srin gas bombing of the Tokoyo subway and I am afraid that something like it could happen. Btw, in the Gulf war, didn't soldiers get anti-sarin injections or something? How could that protect against nerve gas!? Unless they meant the atrophine that comes with the MOPP gear.

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Bad.Mojo

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Why Australia though? Who hates Australia? Nobody. Hell, everybody hates the United States, and how many "terrorist attacks" did they get during the games? One. By an American citizen, not some Sheik chanting "DEATH TO THE GREAT SATAN! DEATH TO USA!" And it wasn't because of security, because a pipe bomb was easily snuck into the games. It would have been just as easy to sneak a time delayed viral agent or an explosive compound into the arena. Hell, you could leave the explosives next to a structural support and have it collapse on everybody.

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das_ben

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fuck the olympics... happy trendy-parade... wish i would be there and had a fire-extinguisher when i'd see the olympic flame... :nervous:

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OICW

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Bad mojo brings up some good points but let's not forget that the Islamic terrorist extremists (not to make fun of Muslims or anything, they are probably sick and tired of the terrorists incidents by their own religion. Just like in Northern Ireland with the normal irish people.) but they don't really care who they kill as long as they are infidels. Also, osa bin laden has threatened to attack and it's kinda hard to ignore a threat like it. The reason why I am worried is that I am going to the guys with my parents. If i wasn't I wouldn't really be concerned at all. Thankfully, we couldn't get tickets to the Opening or closing ceremonies which might be deemed good times to attack by terrorists. By the Aussie SAS equipment I mean audio equipment like microphones or "bugs" to use in hostage cases or fibre optic equipment to put through holes drilled in the walls etc. Finally, the Aussie SAS hasn't had much experience at all and esp not in hostage situaions and liberating. Plus there's the Blackhawk weakness which I mentioned. Fitting the entire fleet of Blackhawks with the Black Hole IR suppression system would be wasteful but I thought that the government would be smart enough to fit them on the Blackhawks that will be operating during the games!

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Kibbles-N-Bits

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I think OICW's fears concerning the security of the Sydney Olympics are pretty valid. The SAS would stand no chance what so ever (not to offend anyone) against a team of well-prepared terrorists. Helo's are the absolute worst way to head up an assualt. Those thing would be rocket bait the second they got within range... as for sending in teams of men... the opera house is full of bottleneck's and sheltered sniper's nests and other opportunities! Has anyone ever seen sudden death? Those guys were organized, and would've won out in real life. This whole thing is a good reason for me NOT to go to the olympics this time! /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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ShakKen

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Actually, helos are pretty much your safest bet on military transport. There is little to no chance that a terrorist group could get any type of SAM unit within proximity of one. Expecially in a developed country like the US or Australia.

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Paranoia, paranoia, everybody's comin' to get me...

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Katalyst

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waterfront veiw?

not true shakken. it wouldn't be hard to rent an apartment with a window overlooking the waterfront. Just wait then launch.
 

OICW

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Shakken I don't mean to offend you buddy but u are being increadably dense (sorry) For one, a terrorist group could easily get all their equipment such as explosives, SAMS etc from a arms dealer, lan them off the top of Australia in some uninhabited region and ship them cross country. Or they could just land closer to Sydney. This is true. Last year or the year before, a boat full of illegal immigrants went all the way down the east coast of Australia down to Coff harbour!!! That is only a couple of hundred klicks away from Sydney. We can't possibly guard all our coastline a: coz it's MASSIVE and b: it would chew up manpower and resources. So Shakken, if I or u were a terrorist and had done our homework, we wouldn't even bother try buying SAMS or explosives here. Just ship them from whereever. About the helos, well they are good at ferrying troops but like I said, without IR supression systems like that on the AH-64 Apache, any reaction team would be killed. the US President's VH-60 has one so why doesn't the helicopters going to be used in the Olypmics have one!? Our SAS is practising response to terrorists by flying and hovering over the Stadium at night. That might be neccessary but what if a terrorist is watching and memorizing the approach routes? Then, all they need to do is have men with SAMS on those routes and blow the helicopters out of the sky. This is also true. hell, one of my friends lives near the Stadium and HE goes out to wtach the commandos practise with his night vision binoculars!!! I would feel a lot better if our Blackhawks are fitted with IR supressors. They might not be 100% effective but they are still pretty damn good. Now if I weren't a teenager, I just wouldn't go. Plain and simple. Damnit. Maybe i should go public about the lack of proper security. We should ask the British SAS if they could send some of their most experienced men over, since they have the most experience of any CT or special ops unit in the world.

Hand to hand, is the basis of all combat. Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon.
Ninja, MGS