HEY MEGA MAN THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE YOU (VOTING in the USA)

[Platypus_Corpse]

so who is everyone voting for? me im unsure but donald duck is looking good. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Zundfolge]

Anyone else think Bush looks like Alfred E. Neuman?


What? Me, Worry?

Oh well at least he doesn't want Mama Government to protect us from ourselves (and enslave us at the same time).

So for me it's Bush (but you never know, I might just write in Charlton Hesston) /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[Keiichi]

Who cares? They both suck as far as I'm concerned. I'll probably just flip a coin when I get down there. I think I'm alone on this one but, I actually wish Bill Clinton was running again. Sure, he may not have had a lot of common sense when it came to his sex life, but he knew how to run the country.

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[ThunderChunky]

I can't say goodbye to Clinton fast enough. This is not because of his personal/sexual/character issues.

I believe that Clinton has been one of the biggest offenders of using an inordinate number of Executive Orders and Decisions, which basically bypass the normal governmental system (namely Congress and its elected representatives, for those of you who think that Texas is its own country, and that you elect the President). I could go on, but I will just say I'm glad we won't be seeing him any more in the White House, but again, that's just me.

No way in Hades that I will be voting for Gore. I don't like him, and his programs do not agree with what I stand for. Bush might not be the brightest, or most experienced light bulb in the group, but I think he more than intelligent enough to handle the situtations that will be presented to him (AND there is a reason why there are Presidential Advisors). Plus, I like Cheney.

On a tangent, I saw a little poster on campus saying why one should vote their "conscience" and gave a list of what Nader stood for as reasons to vote for him. It just so happened that 3 out of the 4 were my reasons NOT to vote for him, and a didn't totally agree with the last one.

And I know I will be on the most part alone on this one, I want to totally abolish Social Security. But that's just me (I am of the opinion that I can save/invest for my retirement better than the government can).

Whatever...

Time for me to save my pennies and finally join the NRA. And then more pennies for a rifle. And then more for a thermonuclear warhead. For hunting. Honest. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Alpha_9]

Well, I started out supporting Gore/Lieberman, but then saw this PBS Frontline documentary on the histories of both Bush & Gore, & came out of it a Bush supporter! Go figure. Shows I'm open-minded...

Basically I saw something in Gore's past I didn't know about & didn't like at all. The man just can't be relied upon to tell the truth, and we've had enough of that crap in the White House. And I've come to appreciate the consensus-minded philsophy George W. puts forth. It's about time we get some of that in D.C. for a change.

I still disagree with W. over drilling for oil at ANWR, but then if I insisted on voting only for someone I agreed w/ on everything, I wouldn't be voting at all...

Oh, and ThunderChunky, that makes 2 of us who wish Soc. Security would be scrapped. I never believed in it. I don't see why the feds should be in the business of nationalized pensions either. Imagine all the extra money people would have to invest for their own retirement if they didn't have to be paying that damned FICA tax.
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[the real pacman]

Eventhough I wouldn't even reply to a topic like this on a regular basis just because of the topic I think I'm going to stick my nose in to piss you off. If I had to vote, it would be for mickey mouse. At least he is honest and can keep his **** in his pants.

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[Mojo.the.Red]

Despite the fact that I'm not American, I would vote for Nader. Simply because Bush is far right, and Gore is slightly more to the left of the far right, and both are pathological liars, and the idea of a "free country" that doesn't allow a third party to participate in the elections proper is a hypocrisy that everybody needs to expose, while you have the two big party old money pushers saying that a vote for him is a vote for the other guy, indoctrinating the idea that he can't win, so why waste your vote? If only he did win, it would send a powerful message to a supposed land of liberty that treats its people more like subjects than citizens, and the American people would no longer feel the need to be forced to pick between one of the two evils, a representative of only a small portion of their opinions

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[ThunderChunky]

The sad thing about American Government is that it wasn't designed to give total power to the masses. It is actually designed so that the upper classes could remain in control of the country. Just look at the electoral college, the fact that Senators were not even directly elected by those who could vote, which were often only landowners. (What's even sadder is that a lot of Americans don't know this)

With this in mind, I am still pretty proud of what the US government has accomplished. Even though it seems atrocious, the electoral college has been pretty effective in reflecting the public vote.

The ignorance of the American public is amazing. We can barely get half of our citizens to vote EVERY FOUR YEARS!!! No one should have to vote for somebody because there is no other choice. If people are not voting for Nader because they think that they are throwing their vote away, they are fools. The only thing that should matter is one's opinion, which unfortunately is most often not the case. People should do their homework. There are plenty of other candidates out there. One of them is bound to represent you. If all else fails, just write yourself in. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Big money only helps get one's name out to those who don't already know. The gripe should be not with the system, but with the people who rely in information to be fed to them, rather than actively seeking a better alternative. People are only limited by their own stupidity, not by the choice of mainstream candidates.

Finally, if you are eligible, get off your @ss and VOTE!!! It is disgusting that the country which is the so-called leader of the free world cant even get the majority of its citizens to pick its leader. /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Hey, look! Another pointless post by this author!!!

Whatever...

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[Alpha_9]

I actually think the Electoral College is a good idea. It forces a candidate to win the Presidency w/ a wider base of support nationally than would otherwise be possible. Thus a candidate that is super-popular in one specific region can't be elected unless he/she has support in other regions as well. It helps w/ national unity, something the authors of the Constitution were mindful of. If a candidate were to win the popular vote but lose in the electoral college, it would be because he had overwhelming support in a too-narrow a part of the country. The other candidate with broader support would be the one more fit to represent the nation as a whole.

The Electoral College wouldn't make sense in a smaller, more-h-o-mogenous country. But in a vast & diverse land as the U.S.A., it's downright ingenious, in my opinion.

As for Ralph Nader, uh, don't even get me started...

btw, observe again the stupidity of this forum's profanity censorship, I couldn't even f-u-c-king spell "h-omogenous" straight. Truly unbelievable...
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[JonnyBoy]

Gore- Gore to me seems like a little whiny boy who woke up on the wrong side of his crib. not to mention his prostitute of a spouse wants to ban music with "bad words in them". If we take a look at the past 8 years that he has been in office as vice president could we find one good thing that he has accomplished? doub it.

bush- b..bb.b.b.b.b.b.b...bush as he might sss.s.s.s.s.say. i personally think he sttt.t.t.tttutters too much. anyone who can't say subliminal is not ok in my book let me tell you.

nadar- ahh...the green party. i would vote for nadar, but voting for him seems like such a waste of a vote. the only good value nadar poses is if someone votes for him that vote would have probably gone to gore.

well, it seems the three major parties are running neck and neck at pure ****tiness......

maybe i'll vote for the communist party.

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[Zundfolge]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I actually think the Electoral College is a good idea. It forces a candidate to win the Presidency w/ a wider base of support nationally than would otherwise be possible. [/quote]

I gotta disagree, I think the opposite happens. Because of the Electoral College, my vote as a Kansan is meaningless. But as a Californian or New Yorker... A handfull of states votes are the ones that decide the election.

When Bill Clinton won the first time, he only had 40% of the popular vote, but because he won the right states he had around 80% of the electoral vote. So he pranced around saying he won by a landslide and this was his "Mandate from the People" to shove his sh.t (like socialized medicine) down our throats. (BTW, in 1990 Clinton won with LESS actual votes then Michael Dukakas LOST with)

The Electoral College also keeps 3rd party candidates out of the running all together.

Back when it would take a month for the votes to be counted it made sense, but now, with instant reporting it's an antiquated system that should be done away with.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> If I had to vote, it would be for mickey mouse. At least he is honest and can keep his **** in his pants. [/quote]
Damn Megaman, didn't you pay attention to Ballisto's rant about Disney movies with their sexual eastereggs? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> ...and both are pathological liars... [/quote]
Gore is (I mean he DID invent the internet and all) but I haven't seen one documented lie told by Bush. I'm sure there are some but not nearly as many as Gore,or that's all we would be reading in the paper and seeing on the news (the American media is controlled by Democrats).

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Bush is far right, and Gore is slightly more to the left of the far right [/quote]
Not sure where you put the center (unless you consider Lenin a centrist).

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Finally, if you are eligible, get off your @ss and VOTE!!! [/quote]
If you're eligible AND AREN'T A COMPLETE DUMBASS then go vote, in my mind what's worse the someone not voting is someone who has no idea what's going on going into the booth and randomly flippin levers. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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[the real pacman]

Just fuc.kin vote, or are you so lazy that leaving your PC for a few hours to do something productive.


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[Dogboy]

MothaF***a. I swear. People are so goddamn STUPID!(Deep breath...) Whew...feel better.

My life according to Clinton:

His policies have affected my life to the point ** ****** ******.
Because of him I have had to **** certain *******. I would have just loved to **** ***** ***, **** ******.
***** ***** ********** *** if not totally ******* his ******* head ***.

Now because of my current job (I swear to support and defend the constituttion of...yada yada yada...) you will not know what I really had to say. I am a US Marine, and I WILL BE A PROFESSIONAL, even if our President will not. /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I believe in justice. And morality. Screw off if you don't. Nuff said.

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[This message was edited by St0rmcaller on Nov 02, 2000 at 19:19.]

[the real pacman]

Thanks alot boys for backing me up on this topic.

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[Keiichi]

KEIICHI FOR PRESIDENT!!!

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[jaeg]

The comment regarding Clinton's excessive use of Executive Orders is, in my opinion, misleading. Executive Orders do not pertain to domestic or social issues in any way. They have two primary uses.
The first one is bureacracy reform of which Clinton has done quite a bit. The supposed claim of excessive government spending is completely false. Clinton has actually decreased the federal governement from what it was before Regan. He accomplished this by efficent reorganization and mass layoffs within the federal government. What has increased is the size of state governments and local governments(with has increased exponentially over the last 20 years).
The second primary use of executive orders is miltary use. More specifically, foreign relations and internal miltary policy. Many people cite Clinton's supposed "excesive" use of these compared to recent presidents but one has to realize the circumstances he is operating under. Clinton is the first president to have a country at peace with the former Soviet Union over a long period. Maintaining peace as well as friendly policy regarding military intelligence operations(as opposed to the "unfriendly" activities of the Cold War) requires a massive amount of diplomacy which Clinton has had dropped into his lap. Previous presidents handled these things through the military directly and no one asked questions because we were involved in the Cold War.
Also, Clinton is required by statue to issue these Executive Orders by many of the policies setup by the Regan administration(Regan also had a notourious "appreciation" of Executive Orders). In other words, he has no choice.

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[BomBerMaN]

im voting for this guy=http://www.stickdeath.com/ollie.gif .....hehe

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[the real pacman]

That hurt just to watch...

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[BomBerMaN]

coolest site ever (http://www.stickdeath.com/menu2.htm)...a little violent...there are about 40 movies and they are all hilarious....everyone chek it out

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[the real pacman]

Yeah, sticks killing each other and stuff helps amuse the feeble mind.

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[BomBerMaN]

hell.....it amuses me....i must be feeble minded

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