Space Travel and the U.S.

Not to get you started, Mojo, but could Columbus support his theory that the world was round before he journeyed forth to (ahem)'discover' America? No! You are speculating that space travel is not feasible or practical. At this current moment, you are correct, but if it weren't for the visionaries, the dreamers, then none of what we have now would exist. Flight, at one time, was a "scientific" impossibility yet now flying is one of the most used methods of travel. Hell, if I remember correctly, I read somewhere that flight, for a bumblebee, was impossible..yet there he goes, buzzing around. As for the U.S., well, we all have our opinions, don't we? Uh, moderators or whomever, could you move this to the 'Normandy' site..that is where this is supposed to be..I made a boo-boo.

Yes, Mojo, Columbus did get lost and ended up somewhere other than where he had expected. His whole reason for the trip..if I remember correctly..was to circumnavigate the globe in order to get to India(or was it China, school was SO long ago). I beleive the reasoning was that if the earth was indeed round instead of flat, then he could sail straight(more or less) and reach India faster than hugging the coastlines like everyone else had. Point is, he tried something most people in the "civilized" world said was impossible and he succeeded. ..and Pacman, your post makes absolutely NO sense. We were put here and that's where we should stay? That's absolutely brilliant! "Queen Isabella, I would like to search for a new route to India" .."no, Columbus, we were put here in Spain and that is where we should stay" That makes a lot of sense. Do you beleive in evolution? If so, we were originally "put" in water..is that where we should have stayed. With thinking like that we would still be living in the dark ages, praying to the moon and worshipping the seasons. Whose to say that our evolution will not lead us to "explore strange new worlds" and to "boldly go where no man has gone before". Sorry, couldn't resist that one and, NO, I am NOT a Trekkie!(although I like some of the series). For cryin' out loud, I respect every persons right to an opinion but please, at least have a real reason for it and an argument for backing it up.

...and on a humorous note. At least people respond to a halfway intelligent post in these forums. In the Delta Force forum I go to, a post like this could, very realisticly end up with a response like "go f**k yourself, space travel is stupid and so are you"..such is the mentality of some of the cretins who frequent those forums.

This is great, it takes me a week to get this many responses over at the Landwarrior site! One of the current topics over there regards some inbred looking for his stolen "fluff"(i think he is referring to navel lint). There is another that seems to be evolving into a U.S. vs. Canada battle..unfortunately the one who is on Canadas' side apparantly rides the "short bus", judging by the intelligence contained in his posts. Mojo will be glad to hear that!

Oh, and Keiichi, I am going to check that post out now, thanks.

Again, Mojo, you cling to the assumption that just because the technology doesn't exist today, it will never exist. That, my friend, is a very archaic thought process. In the 1950's, landing on the moon was looked at as impossible because the technology didn't exist. Hell, flight was supposed to be impossible as well.

Alpha, great post. I was getting ready to use the exponential growth of man myself..good call. Mojo, again you argue Alphas' point with "ok, then, tell me how". That argument doesn't stand. I don't even pretend to know HOW a lot of things work but they still do. I don't quite understand how all that explosive propulsion fuel for the shuttle doesn't blow it up constantly upon liftoff but guess what..psst..the shuttle still takes off and comes back safely(well..most of the time).

Growth does not stop, everything keeps moving forward and evolving. Even when a species becomes extinct, growth does not stop. Correct me if I'm wrong but there are a few species out there that have been around fow thousands, if no millions of years. Sharks, for one, they have evolved by becoming a bit smaller and not requiring quite so much food to survive. There are numerous members of the lizard species that still bear some ties to the dinosaurs. Growth on this planet will not stop unless we completlely obliterate ourselves..and even then it won't be becuse of mother nature.

Now as far as intelligence, Dolphins are extremely intelligent..can they survive out of water..I think not. We, on the other hand can, with the use of our "non-intelligent" technology, go into the water for increasingly long periods of time. OK, I admit it, Dolphins have no means to improve themselves because they have no way to make things. I am sorry for picking on you, Flipper. Intelligence is not completely relative..brain size has just a 'teensy' bit to do with it, don't ya think? Is it coincidence that the smartest creatures also have the largest brains in proportion to their bodies? I think not. Intelligence means that the guy dropped in the sahara desert will bring wiht him the means to survive, where an animal has no such option or ability. I think what you are referring to is instinct and that is something COMPLETLY different. Physically, we are weaker than most species, what makes us intelligent is our ability to use our brains to adapt and overcome, not to be a slave to instinct.


Space travel causing inbreeding? C'mon, you have to be kidding me! Helllloooo..anyone there? Sperm banks? That alone can solve most of the inbreeding problem. If you start out with enough people and a diverse gene pool, then that shouldn't be a problem. Hell, trailer parks still flourish!(albeit, not very intelligently). In any event, upon examining your argument, I find that there is no real merit in it. Unless we destroy ourselves, space travel will be a FACT, and probably sooner that most would guess. Personally, I think you(Mojo) just like to stir up the pot..which is good because it makes for some stimulating discussion.