OMFG "Games sells guns"? WTF

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<center>Report: Violent Computer Games Sell Guns</center>
<center><small>Source: NewsFactor</center></small>

"A study released Thursday by a gun control group claims the gun industry is using violent computer and video games to market and sell guns to young people and attract new customers. :rolleyes:

"The latest assault in the gun industry battle for the hearts and minds of America's youth is the use of video and computer games that puts virtual guns in the hands of potential customers," said the study by the Violence Policy Center, a nonprofit research group.

The report continued, "Designed and marketed as children's toys and sold freely through channels such as eToys.com and Amazon.com, they are the newest marketing tools for attracting children to the gun industry."

The U.S. Congress warned the entertainment industry in September that companies could face government intervention if they fail to police themselves in marketing violent content to children.

The U.S. Federal Trade Commission investigated and reported on marketing violence to youth in the electronic games industry, as well as the motion picture and music recording industries.

"Target marketing to children of entertainment products with violent content is pervasive and aggressive," said FTC Chairman Robert Pitofsky. "Each industry rates or labels certain material as warranting parental control or as inappropriate for young people, but at the same time, each markets those very products to young people."

The Commission stopped short of recommending government action, but said the industries should "take additional action to enhance their self-regulatory efforts."

The Violence Policy Center study, titled "Why the Firearms Industry Wants Their Video Games on Your Child's Wish List," examined the violent content in several popular video games and their links to the gun manufacturers who endorse them.

In one case, the study pointed out, Remington's Upland Game Hunter features an online catalogue of selected Remington weapons. Games investigated were endorsed by Remington Arms, Colt Manufacturing, Browning, and shooting magazines Guns and Ammo and Soldier of Fortune.

The study described the content of each game and listed the various weapons used. It also noted a study by Hart Research Associates that found that 60 percent of all Americans over the age of five play video games, and roughly 40 percent of video game players are under 18 -- younger than the minimum age to buy a gun.

"The gun industry is able to put virtual versions of their deadly products into the hands of children who are not legally eligible to purchase firearms and would be unreachable by more traditional means of marketing," the study said.

National Rifle Association spokesman Bill Powers told the media the study lacks validity: "You're looking at just another half-baked report from people who won't stop until all firearms are illegal."

This POS article came from here.

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deathren

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Jesus christ!

"Something about the battle Excites people's emotions."

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What a load of Bull. I mean, this sh it is not even worth a reply... oh, wait.

It's a point of view thing, "soccer mom's" see it as marketing for there real-life counterparts "Look mummy! I want a H&K G11 like from Fallout 2 and Jagged Alliance!" and other people who see these "Virtual guns" as a replacement (Can't plink in real life? Go to the Infiltration firing range).

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So I suppose that means the game industry is encouraging grand theft auto (GTA) :rolleyes:
Speeding through streets being pursued by poilce. (NFS4) :rolleyes:
Building empires and conquering inferior civilizations (AOEII) :rolleyes:
Developing your math skills and therefore encouraging the fundamental needs of a gun designer (MathBlaster2) :rolleyes:

WhateveRRRR

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Don't forget fighting gladiator style to the death to become the best there is (UT/Q3)

Assaulting alien races with lazors (Q2)

Zapping half biological half mechanical beings (ST: Elite Force)

Having sex with prostitutes and getting freaky ass diseases (Leisure Suit Larry 2)

Going on an acid trip and slaughtering the queen of hearts (American McGee's Alice)

Shall I go on? :rolleyes:

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One thing: Everybody hold your tounge, and DON'T say that you wish you could put a 9mm round in their groin, because that's just what they are trying to prove games are causing. :)

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put a 9mm in their groin

guess ill just have to put one up their asz :D

its right out side the door,now testify!
 

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What a FU*KING PEICE OF SH*T,....Oh and also i play The THIEF games i'm now going out to brake into houses,cathedrals, and so on :rolleyes: . WHAT FU*K HEADS!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: .

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F.UCK THOSE BASTARDS!-+

And I always go around shooting people with my trusty Beretta Centurions.

By the way, last night I went out and killed a few people. I was wearing a nice trenchcoat and was using my TEC-9's :rolleyes:

I started bombing the niueghborhood with my homemede explosives! :rolleyes:

"Something about the battle Excites people's emotions."

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LordSpoon

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I'm sick of the news and soccer mums (or as u might say... m'o'ms).

but..no! of course thats true :
After I played quake, I got the good old roket launcher out of the closet, and went down to the mall for some intense fragging. I love a fragfest, but never forget - first you have to make sure you had the red armour and megahealth.

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What we have here is yet another excuse made by parents to make up for their lack of attention to what their children are..reading, listening to, or playing. The games in question that they seem to be referring to are, I believe, hunting games. Now unless you are shooting other hunters, their argument doesn't hold up. Video games will continue to be the 'bane of all that is good and holy' until games are sold equally as much as CD's or DVD's, at that point there will be no way to get rid of them due to the sheer money that they bring in. C'mon, I don't see anyone IDing kids buying 'R' rated movies on tape or DVD nor do I see them being ID'd to buy CD's with explicit lyrics...while we're at it, how about a parental lock for MTV..(what a load of mindnumbing crap THAT is!) It's all about money and right now video games are still a relatively easy target due to the percieved 'niche' crowd they are supposedly bought by. Hey, Mom and Dad! Get off your a*ss and take a look at what the h*ell your kids are doing...oh I'm sorry, didn't mean to interrupt "Walker, Texas Ranger".

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the way I see it, they think that if you play these so-called violent videogames, you'll suddenly suddenly be able to shoot with sniper-like accuracy.

by the same logic, if I play Links 2000 for a few weeks, once I get out I'll be able to outshoot Tiger Woods, if I play Civ2 I'll be able to take over the world, or if I play Falcon 4.0 I'll suddenly be able to fly an F-16.
 

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some problems with the artical.

To some extent i'd agree with parts of the artical, while others are way off.

Right now the goverment (and i assume a large portion of people) are all over the idea of protecting america's youth from the preceived danger of glorifing violence via entertainment. Which was preciptated by the growing number of school shootings.

The current fear is that by exposing young children to large amounts of virtual violence it will decensitize the youth to the idea of starting a violent act. Many many times i've heard the idea twisted into something like "by watching virtual violence it desensitizes an individual to real violence."

Games like quake or soldier of fortune, and the like that feature gore, do nothing to prepare someone of the real horrors of gunshot wounds or even beatings. Go play a game of SOF, see if it makes you cringe, then go find a pic of a gunshot victem... Unless your a medic or have some inter releated job, i suspect that you'll cringe. Those little gibs didn't prep you for it.. Have you ever see someone in real life get seriously injured? One time my mother's toe was partially severed in a home accident ( moving heavy furniture) and i had to drive her to the hospital.. I don't feel like a wimp telling you that i couldn't stand to look at it... Now that was a Toe. Far Far from serious... Did all my hours of Gaming, movies, and websurfing dull me to the gore?!? I don't think so...

But it could dull a youth to the idea of pointing a gun at someone.. and from there it's an acident waiting to happen..

but then again so could playig cowboys and indians as our grandparents may have.

I seriously doubt that styer, colt, glock ect are selling designs to Playschool so that they can get a early hold of young america. And i really doubt that Rainbow 6, CS, INF ect. are taking bribes from the gun manufactures in order to make thier product more impressive.

but....

Till i played Rainbow 6 way back when it first came out i'd never even heard of H&K, and now if i feel that they are one of the most respected manufactueres in the business, and i suppose that if i had to buy a gun my first impressions of Gun X ( simulation games ) would lead me to do research on gun X, which could ultimately lead to a purchase. But i don't think that any of the gaming i did in these types of games would make me "more deadly" with a real life counterpart. (just cause you can drive a car in a game doesn't mean you'll be able to do it in reality. )

It's not the Entertaiment Industry that should have to be kept in check, it's the kids, which is a parent's job.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Have you ever see someone in real life get seriously injured? [/quote]

I have seen myself get injured many times. I cut my finger in half once(that was pretty looking and lots of blood on the floor too),I cut my throat open on a window sil when I was 10 and needed mad stitches and lost a huge amount of blood(that was also very gross,but very very very painful)and just a little while ago I ran into a highway sign as I rode under it with my bike cuz it was really dark and it cut the top of my head so bad that literally 2 seconds later,it was like I was in the shower but with blood coming out of the faucet and hitting me on the head. There was blood everywhere and I just keep riding,pretty much thought I was gonna die cuz I was on the highway far from anywhere bleeding all over the place but I ended up being seen by someone and helped in time somehow. I lost so much blood I needed a transfusion and 127 stitches.

What is the moral to this? Violence happens in everyone's life. I have seen real violence up close(meaning me)and it is nothing like video games. When you are seriously hurt,no game could ever replicate how bad you feel. It could only simulate things like your reaction to colors that are associated with blood and violence,never any "real" bad feelings.
Maybe when we have virtual reality in the future it will be more like the real thing,but now it's just colors on a screen that kind of resemble blood and gore.
If any media is selling guns(yeah, ok :rolleyes: ),it would be movies or the news even. In those you see real people in horrible situations. Anyone ever see the ER show on TLC? That show can be worse than faces of death yet it's on at like 6pm all the time.
This c.untry has to get their head out of their ass and stop looking for scapegoats to arrogantly blame everything bad that happens on.
 

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I knocked my head on a sharp corner of my dad's dresser. It really hurt. There was a lot of blood. This happened when I was about three. It freaked me out. And I had been playing Wolf3D just before that.
I still have the scar.


You wouldn't beleive what happened in seldovia. :eek:


Lance: "The soccer moms" are the assholes vho protest "These terribly violent videogames that decensetize our children!"

"Something about the battle Excites people's emotions."

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haha stupid f.ucks

<center>Police Fail to Seize Violent Games</center>

"A “Toys for Violent Games†turn-in program in Illinois ended last week with no games actually having been turned in, but town police say they still believe it was a good idea.

The program, which resembled inner-city “Toys for Guns†programs, offered to give computer game owners exchanges on games they thought were too violent for goods from local stores. Running from Dec. 4-10, it received considerable attention in the Chicago-area press. But in the end, everyone apparently decided to keep their games, said police community relations officer Dan Huck.

“We got a lot of positive feedback, but no one turned anything in,†he told the Adrenaline Vault.

Huck helped organize the program with the local Chamber of Commerce. Several local stores offered equal-value gifts of pottery, books and candy in return for violent games, which would then have been turned into the police for destruction.

Wilmette police did not try to define what a “violent game†was, saying they would leave that determination to the parents they assumed would be doing most of the turning in, Huck said. While he didn’t believe any crimes in the town of 27,000 were linked to computer gaming, Huck said the police still felt a responsibility to help parents who might have bought a game inappropriate for their children by mistake. “Here in Wilmette, we’re all for individual choice,†he said.

The police and local business had yet to decide whether they would attempt the program again. Although there’s as many games ‘on the streets’ as before, Huck said the effort may still have had some value for educating parents about the content of some computer games, and the negative effects they may have on their children."

/me laughs :D