SWAT versus M16 Colt

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Gandolf8

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I'm wondering for long distance with a scope, which is better: SWAT or M16
 

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From personal experience in Inf, the SIG has a higher stopping power at longer distances. Its only noticeable on big maps like Extreme Prejudice and Kosovo. Otherwise I'd go with the M-16a2 and m203 attachment.

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hmm....

Some reason I got the idea the Sig was more accurate for sniping.

So if the M16 with the scope IS better, then why would anyone use the Sig? .....the M16 also has a grenade launcer.
 

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they are pretty much the same, but the m16 can fire faster (tap burst fast) and is more accurate.. i think the recoil on the m16 needs a little increasing or the recoil for the 1st few rounds on the sig needs a little reduction.

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Gandolf8

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okay

Thanks for your responses. BAsically they are hte same but M16 is better is very slight ways so basically Sig shouldn't be used...
 

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All a matter of taste

Personaly, I swear by the Sig for general use and light sniping. For one thing, I find I am more accurate with the Sig than with the M16 in semi-automatic fire. The M16 holds it's burst closer together, which is a mixed blessing (I aim center of mass, the Sig has more of a tendancy to walk that fire into the head region... target goes down either way), but the real difference for most people is full auto vs. M203.

This is my opinion, but I feel that there is a population out there who use grenade launcers a bit excessively, turning some maps into INF-version rocket arenas for as long as their ammo lasts. It's a pet peeve of mine. Meanwhile, full auto is nice for tunnel running and close quarters, firing from the hip mayhem.

My recommendation to you, Gandalf, is to try both weapons in a variety of configurations and figure out what's best for you. Could be neither... perhaps you're more for a supressed MP5 / PSG1 loadout. Who knows?
 
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Yeah, I kinda find the launcher I bit more useful. When I use full auto on the sig the recoil keeps me from hitting anything. :-(

Actually I do prefer the mp5 (too bad it doesn't have a scope for light sniping) Its supressor gives it almost no recoil so its like 99% accurate for me. Plus it still kills in 3-6 bullets.

Btw, I didn't know you could do a mp5/psg-1 loadout. I thought you didn't have enough money...I made my sniping loadout either mp5/robar or psg-1/berreta
 

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i use the M16A2 for sniping, and general commando-like manouvers over the SIG551, mostly because the M16A2 has a much larger magazine.
it's also harder to control in burst fire mode, and the shots are too wide spread

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I prefer sig

the sig has full auto, which I love.
I use the scope, and when in small areas, it is not realy clever to use scope, and it is hard to aim without any sights. So with the sig you see someone who is close, press fire, and basicaly everything infront of you die. with the m16 there 3 round burst, and......
 

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Ah, the cash

You are probably right about the PSG/MP5 thing...
the Robar isn't the first sniper rifle that comes to mind for me, though it probably should.

Personally, I'm a one rifle, one pistol man as far as guns go. You think you need something else, you can usualy find it one the ground. This is especially true middle of the match and on.
 
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Gandolf8

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Does anyone have a problem with their LAM

I was experimenting with the Sig, and I couldn't get my LAM to work. It works like 1 outta 2 times. THe times I get it to work are after 2 minutes of fiddling aroudn with my stupid iventory...

Did I mess somethin up....?

My Pref:
M16 instead of Sig
MP5 instead of AK
Berreta instead of Desert
Robar instead of PSG-1 (cause PSG-1 costs too much)
 

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lol, you wussys, can't handle a little recoil :D


I can't kill **** with the M16, but with the sig, I can be a force to be reconed with :D

The secret is to use bursts on full auto with the SIG.

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I think the sig is lighter

it only takes bout 5 bulk. How much does the m16 take up. Me personally the sig has this really cool feel to it. i love it. my loadout is sig and robar and k-bar for a total of 30 bulk. :)

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Gandolf8

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hmmm.....i'm reconsidering....(LAM fix?)

I'll try the eva popular Sig again with bursts on full auto...I still dunno if that's as good as M16 regular bursts...

Don't forget the grenade launcher (I must have)

and did anyone have problems with the LAM? anyone nkow how to fix it?
 

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Gimme' my Sig.

It all depends on how you play. That, and which one you spend more time with.

I hated the Sig when I first used it. Now I swear by it.

True, its recoil is greater, but I like the full auto and the sights. I like the fact that with the Sig, I know I can hit something when it's in my front sight. Sometimes with the M16, the bullets just seem to have a mind of their own. Then again, that's probably because I can never line the sights up fast enough for my finger.

In my experience quickly tapping fire will give me some nice, relatively tight two round bursts. Of course that's aiming center of mass, which always seems to make the second round a head shot. Also, CQB is something I think the Sig is really ahead of the M16 in. Like JKJK said, hold the trigger and everyone in front of you dies.

As for light sniping, I think the M16 is better. You can get a second, accurate shot off faster.

But, I can't really snipe with my ping so I stick to CQB.

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They both have their advantages, and my choice depends on the map. For me, it really boils down to whether or not the M203 is worth having on a particular map. I prefer the Sig as a rifle, although the clips are a tad short. However, the ability to have an indirect fire explosive weapon(M203) outweighs my rifle preference on many maps. You can use the M203 to flush out the enemy or hit them after they have taken cover behind a corner. Anyway, on maps with tight spaces where you're gonna shoot a lot of dud grenades, Sig all the way. Anywhere else, M16.

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I'd say the Sig is a better sniper rifle for one reason. It has full auto. Though useless for sniping itsef, it's easier to shoot from the hip when you get snuck up on. ;)

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Gandolf8

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That's actually true

I kinda had the same experience of most of you. So I organized my loadouts accordingly.

My short range is:
Benelli, Sig w/scope+LAM, and some frag nades
Medium is:
MP5+surpessor, M16 w/scope+GL, and some frag nades
Long is:
MP5+surpressor, Robar

I realize my short and medium are possibly interchangable since mp5 is easily CQB and the Sig can snipe...I wonder if you guys have any suggestions.

O and I wonder if you have any reasons the AK is better than the mp5....cause I kno a lot of people use the AK....ocne again I cannot handle the recoil: But I do know the AK has a bigger clip/drum....