question about the mp5
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MP5-A3 being the safe-semi-fullauto version with a telescoping stock, and the -A5 having safe-semi-burst-auto?
I guess because they don't want to mess with coding the 3-round-burst mechanism, or they read that the SEAL's don't like the burst mode, or whatever. There are like fifty possible variations of the MP5 family, and they have to pick one or they look like Rogue Spear-- in interactive HK catalog.
I guess because they don't want to mess with coding the 3-round-burst mechanism, or they read that the SEAL's don't like the burst mode, or whatever. There are like fifty possible variations of the MP5 family, and they have to pick one or they look like Rogue Spear-- in interactive HK catalog.
Good question
Why do many mods use the AK47 over the AK74? Why any of the MP5 series instead of the SMGII? Why use the Mac-10 when you can use the Mac-11? Mod teams need people with great gun know-hows, but none have them. Oh well...
Edit: I just remembered that INF does not use the MP5A5 because it is 9mm, the MP5 40A3 is 10 mm. However the 9mm A3 has a different lower receiver cover then the A5
Why do many mods use the AK47 over the AK74? Why any of the MP5 series instead of the SMGII? Why use the Mac-10 when you can use the Mac-11? Mod teams need people with great gun know-hows, but none have them. Oh well...
Edit: I just remembered that INF does not use the MP5A5 because it is 9mm, the MP5 40A3 is 10 mm. However the 9mm A3 has a different lower receiver cover then the A5
lol, opps
I was just saying INF needs to include guns that other mods don't. Research the HK SMGII, you'll find a lot of cool features on it, like flicking a switch and having the normal ammunition fire at sub sonic levels. Combine that with the silencer and the one shot closed bolt feature, the gun leterally makes less noise then a gust of wind. Very stealthy. But oh well, i guess we'll never see this gun in a mod. Never mind. Also, I have many more awsome guns where that came from, including a nice SMG I know INF would love. But oh well. Hey, my duties are for hire
-Chronic
I was just saying INF needs to include guns that other mods don't. Research the HK SMGII, you'll find a lot of cool features on it, like flicking a switch and having the normal ammunition fire at sub sonic levels. Combine that with the silencer and the one shot closed bolt feature, the gun leterally makes less noise then a gust of wind. Very stealthy. But oh well, i guess we'll never see this gun in a mod. Never mind. Also, I have many more awsome guns where that came from, including a nice SMG I know INF would love. But oh well. Hey, my duties are for hire
-Chronic
They were gonna include the SMG-II but they couldn't find enough data on it. SMG-II research and production were halted for fear it would interfere with sales of the MP-5, so there is really no way to find accurate data on it.
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Chronic: Heheh, you're way out of your league. Even now you're speaking of what you obviously know less about than you think.
Why use a Mac-M10 over a Mac-11? Why not? The Mac-11 is after all nothing more than a .380 ACP conversion to the M10.
The SMG2 is not being added because it never got past the experimental stages. We've decided that after the G11, no more experimental guns will go in.
Oh and by the way, 'silencer' is a hollywood buzz-word. You may want to use 'suppressor' or 'can' next time in order to avoid being the subject of embarrasment.
Why use a Mac-M10 over a Mac-11? Why not? The Mac-11 is after all nothing more than a .380 ACP conversion to the M10.
The SMG2 is not being added because it never got past the experimental stages. We've decided that after the G11, no more experimental guns will go in.
Oh and by the way, 'silencer' is a hollywood buzz-word. You may want to use 'suppressor' or 'can' next time in order to avoid being the subject of embarrasment.
HAHAHA SILENCER HAHAHAHEHEHAHAHA... .
Sorry ShakKen I couldn't resist .
Iceman.
[One Shot ,One Kill ,No Mercy]
SILENCER HEHE.
.Sorry ShakKen I couldn't resist
.Iceman.
[One Shot ,One Kill ,No Mercy]
SILENCER HEHE.
Sorry Please don't hurt me i'm only a little boy . ShakKen What are you doing with that MP5 oh no....Ahhhhhh Mummy HELP.... /me Runs of in to dark corner .
Iceman.
[One Shot ,One Kill ,No Mercy]
. ShakKen What are you doing with that MP5 oh no....Ahhhhhh Mummy HELP.... /me Runs of in to dark corner .Iceman.
[One Shot ,One Kill ,No Mercy]
Simply put, there are so many variants of the HK weapons which have no practical difference on the bullet end. The fact that it is a handy weapon with a large magazine and full-auto capability is enough to satisfy.
Really, if someone was breaking in to your house, would you quibble over which MP-5 you had?
Really, if someone was breaking in to your house, would you quibble over which MP-5 you had?
Would you really use an mp5 for home defense...I could just see somebody shooting the crook at full auto and the recoil pushing the barrel up shooting onto the second floor killing his kids.
But really, I'd love to have one(mp5)
But really, I'd love to have one(mp5)
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Short bursts and hollowpoings, Mayhem. And even if you did just hold the trigger you'd have to be pretty damn bad at controlling a weapon to let the muzzle climb get that high when firing 9mm rounds out of a weapon being supported by 2 hands and a shoulder...
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Shakker, I did not mean to start a fight.
This is not a flame war, I was not insulting your work. I just don't see why you guys include the G11 but not the SMGII. There have been about 50 made, a lot for people who custom ordered them. The gun works, it is real, I don't see why it is not used. As for the Mac 11, the main difference was the conversion, however the gun was further improved for reliability. And about using the word "silencer", oh for christ sakes. I'm sorry I did not use the official gun lingo there. I've heard many cops use that word. Amd the word suppressor does not tell you if it is a sound or flash suppressor. Once again, I would love to talk to you about guns sometime, as you are very smart in the feild. However, this thread was not intended to be a flame war of any kind. Peace out.
-Chronic
-Chronic
This is not a flame war, I was not insulting your work. I just don't see why you guys include the G11 but not the SMGII. There have been about 50 made, a lot for people who custom ordered them. The gun works, it is real, I don't see why it is not used. As for the Mac 11, the main difference was the conversion, however the gun was further improved for reliability. And about using the word "silencer", oh for christ sakes. I'm sorry I did not use the official gun lingo there. I've heard many cops use that word. Amd the word suppressor does not tell you if it is a sound or flash suppressor. Once again, I would love to talk to you about guns sometime, as you are very smart in the feild. However, this thread was not intended to be a flame war of any kind. Peace out.
-Chronic
-Chronic
The G11 was a 'mistake' of sorts that had given us more than one headache trying to obtain the specs for the weapon and the ballistic properties of the rounds. As result, we've decided that experimental weapons aren't worth the trouble.
Estimating the logitical implementation of the experimental weapons is also a pain in the ass without any real data. As only about 50 SMG2s have been made, parts and accessories are in short to no supply, I don't see how logistically sound it is for any serious military unit to arm themselves with it since the MP5 series is really just as good if not better in the long run.
As I said, the MAC-11 is nothing more than a .380 ACP version of the M10. The 'MAC-10' refers to the Military Armament Corp production of the M10 submachinegun designed by Gordon Ingram. Functionally, the MAC-11 and M10 are IDENTICAL. The M11 is a second generation M10 with several Improvements. Identifiable by it's longer and narrower frame, flat ****ing knob and has a folding Y-stock as standard as opposed to the original L-stock.
Hollywood reaches far and wide. 'Suppressor' is understood as the proper term for a sound suppressor. A flash suppressor is a flash suppressor. Most modern sounds suppressors eliminate muzzle flash anyway.
Estimating the logitical implementation of the experimental weapons is also a pain in the ass without any real data. As only about 50 SMG2s have been made, parts and accessories are in short to no supply, I don't see how logistically sound it is for any serious military unit to arm themselves with it since the MP5 series is really just as good if not better in the long run.
As I said, the MAC-11 is nothing more than a .380 ACP version of the M10. The 'MAC-10' refers to the Military Armament Corp production of the M10 submachinegun designed by Gordon Ingram. Functionally, the MAC-11 and M10 are IDENTICAL. The M11 is a second generation M10 with several Improvements. Identifiable by it's longer and narrower frame, flat ****ing knob and has a folding Y-stock as standard as opposed to the original L-stock.
Hollywood reaches far and wide. 'Suppressor' is understood as the proper term for a sound suppressor. A flash suppressor is a flash suppressor. Most modern sounds suppressors eliminate muzzle flash anyway.
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I beg to differ. 'Silencer' is not an improper term. According to the Oxford American Dictionary the definition of silencer is: a device for reducing the sound made by a gun. The definition of suppressor however is a little more vague it is: a person or thing that suppresses. The definition of suppress is to put an end to the activity or existence of.
So while neither is incorrect, I would say that according to at least that dictionary silencer is a more exact term.
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So while neither is incorrect, I would say that according to at least that dictionary silencer is a more exact term.
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No offense, but the last distionaries on earth I trust are the ones made by Americans. I may use their spelling, but I don't trust their definition.
Expecially for the world silencer. Which of indicated something that's purpose is to 'silence' something else. And there exists no such suppressor that can 'silence' a weapon.
Expecially for the world silencer. Which of indicated something that's purpose is to 'silence' something else. And there exists no such suppressor that can 'silence' a weapon.
I must back up ShakKen. We call them suppressors because they suppress, not eliminate, the sound. Just racking {if i say c-o-c-k-i-n-g, it'll get censored } the bolt is 90 dB, more than enough to ring your ears indoors. During live-fire with suppressed firearms, hearing protection is still required. 120-130 decibels is still loud, but nowhere near the 165 of an unsupressed MP5.
Regarding the dictionary, a general language dictionary is no authority on terms specific to a certain field, merely common usage. You look in a medical dictionary for precise definitions of medical terms, so find an online "gun glossary" and look up suppressor. General consensus is, if you want to sound like you know what you are talking about, say "suppressor". If you want to sound snooty, say "moderator".
Up with truth! Death to ignorance!
Be careful or you may learn something.
} the bolt is 90 dB, more than enough to ring your ears indoors. During live-fire with suppressed firearms, hearing protection is still required. 120-130 decibels is still loud, but nowhere near the 165 of an unsupressed MP5.Regarding the dictionary, a general language dictionary is no authority on terms specific to a certain field, merely common usage. You look in a medical dictionary for precise definitions of medical terms, so find an online "gun glossary" and look up suppressor. General consensus is, if you want to sound like you know what you are talking about, say "suppressor". If you want to sound snooty, say "moderator".
Up with truth! Death to ignorance!
Be careful or you may learn something.
Actually, on a quiet night, the MP5-SD can be heard up to 200 meters away, and it sounds like a very large sewing machine dispensing change.
Shuk-k-k. Fwap-p-p. Ching-g-g. (report, bullet strike, empty shells).
It's the fact that it doesn't sound like a gun which makes it hard to detect. Just imaging all the noise around you, and try to pick out, say, the sound of velcro ripping. It's hard, even when you are searching for it. But everyone stops what they are doing when they hear a balloon pop.
Shuk-k-k. Fwap-p-p. Ching-g-g. (report, bullet strike, empty shells).
It's the fact that it doesn't sound like a gun which makes it hard to detect. Just imaging all the noise around you, and try to pick out, say, the sound of velcro ripping. It's hard, even when you are searching for it. But everyone stops what they are doing when they hear a balloon pop.