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If you liked the movie AND you like reading, get "War of the Rats" by David L Robbins..it is also about that epic sniper duel. One thing of note, the events in the book are closer to the real thing than the movie was(which is to say, they are better). 
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Great movie...
But certain aspects felt pretty 'Hollywood' to me. I am sure I know at least one aspect of the movie that isn't in that book ( which I am going to have to read now ). I won't mention what since I don't want to spoil/bias anyone who hasn't seen the movie
But certain aspects felt pretty 'Hollywood' to me. I am sure I know at least one aspect of the movie that isn't in that book ( which I am going to have to read now ). I won't mention what since I don't want to spoil/bias anyone who hasn't seen the movie
Only 1 thing ?
I don't know the book or the movie, but normally the movie and the book it's based on don't even come close.
It's called "artistic license" or "fukcing up a good book to earn more money"
Someone once said :
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>"The only way to make a good movie is to open that book point a camera at it and then film each and every page one by one."[/quote]
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I don't know the book or the movie, but normally the movie and the book it's based on don't even come close.
It's called "artistic license" or "fukcing up a good book to earn more money"
Someone once said :
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>"The only way to make a good movie is to open that book point a camera at it and then film each and every page one by one."[/quote]
- Hindsight is always 20/20 -
Just a few things I believe were "Hollywood-ized":
Ed Harris' characters name wasn't 'Konig'..don't know why why would change it, it was really Heinz Thorvald.
There was no 'love-triangle' and Tania and Zeitsev did not end up together after the war. Tania DID live, however.
The hanging boy? No mention of anything remotely like that..more than likely 'movie propaganda' to make you dislike 'Konig'.
The way Ed Harris died? Konig, an expert sniper, thinking he MIGHT have killed Zeitsev, walks STRAIGHT over to where he believes the body to be and gets shot. That was stupid. Throughout the movie he shows great instincts nd intellect yet at the most crucial moment he makes an inexcusable 'rookie' mistake. Dumb dumb dumb.
In the book, Zeitsev knew where Konig(Thorvald) was(under the sheet metal)..Kulikov(who also didn't die in the book) provided Zeitsev with a decoy, when Konig shot it, he saw where he was but could not see him directly.. Zeitsev took a 'blind' shot under the metal at the muzzle flash and killed Konig. Glamourous? No, that's why it's probably true.
Anyway, those were the 'blatant' differences I saw. Note that the book had some fictionalized elements, but those centered around aspects of the characters' lives needed to flesh them out. I just bought the 'original' Enemy at the Gates book, which deals with the ENTIRE battle for Stalingrad.
Hope I didn't bore anyone, but although I liked the movie, I think Hollywood did some stupid things with it.
I am the Walrus, koo koo kachoo.
Why do people insist on putting their 'two cents' in when they don't have a penny to spare?
Ed Harris' characters name wasn't 'Konig'..don't know why why would change it, it was really Heinz Thorvald.
There was no 'love-triangle' and Tania and Zeitsev did not end up together after the war. Tania DID live, however.
The hanging boy? No mention of anything remotely like that..more than likely 'movie propaganda' to make you dislike 'Konig'.
The way Ed Harris died? Konig, an expert sniper, thinking he MIGHT have killed Zeitsev, walks STRAIGHT over to where he believes the body to be and gets shot. That was stupid. Throughout the movie he shows great instincts nd intellect yet at the most crucial moment he makes an inexcusable 'rookie' mistake. Dumb dumb dumb.
In the book, Zeitsev knew where Konig(Thorvald) was(under the sheet metal)..Kulikov(who also didn't die in the book) provided Zeitsev with a decoy, when Konig shot it, he saw where he was but could not see him directly.. Zeitsev took a 'blind' shot under the metal at the muzzle flash and killed Konig. Glamourous? No, that's why it's probably true.
Anyway, those were the 'blatant' differences I saw. Note that the book had some fictionalized elements, but those centered around aspects of the characters' lives needed to flesh them out. I just bought the 'original' Enemy at the Gates book, which deals with the ENTIRE battle for Stalingrad.
Hope I didn't bore anyone, but although I liked the movie, I think Hollywood did some stupid things with it.
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This should go in the Off Topic forum.
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Awesome movie...
I think I ruined it for a few people though cause I kept shouting out inconsistencies and unrealistic things...
The actual story was off from the real thing though, and I'm pretty sure the Russians didn't shoot their own men THAT much because us in the U.S.A. are subjected to as much anti-communism propaganda as possible, "just in case."
"Snipers don't shoot for the head, you moron!!"
Go see it.
I think I ruined it for a few people though cause I kept shouting out inconsistencies and unrealistic things...
The actual story was off from the real thing though, and I'm pretty sure the Russians didn't shoot their own men THAT much because us in the U.S.A. are subjected to as much anti-communism propaganda as possible, "just in case."
"Snipers don't shoot for the head, you moron!!"
Go see it.
Rogue Leader is right. As much as I want to see this movie, the OT forum is the proper place for this discussion.
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