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Bladestorm
20th Mar 2000, 07:53 PM
I Am a british gamer and a fan of the S.A.S. and was wondering if their favourite weapon combination for "scout" patrols would be possible soon, for the record this is 8 men : 4 with m16s with 205 grenade launchers attached and 4 with minime machine guns for support (all ammo is thus interchangeble and a good mix between firepower and weight is achieved) (minimes they have using plastic a lot to be as light as the m16s!)

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Bladestorm
3rd Oct 2000, 07:50 PM
/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif now things are moving along and i know more whats gonna be in it i thought id just re-cap this, i may ramble but thats me /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ok s.a.s. combat patrol setup (aka the gulf war and the detailed info from the non-fiction book bravo-two-zero)

8 men, each man has as standard:

A small sidearm of choice, that uses nato standard ammo
1 disposable rocket launcher (attached to pack which is dropped at the start of combat and picked up when needed or after the combat)
helmet and vest (of course)
supplies for several weeks (extra to be acquired in the field if needed)
maps, short-range radio for team coms
1-mile range TAC radio for comms with pickup aircraft or friendly aircraft overflying area
some c4 and detonators timers etc

then 4 men carry:
m16a? with a 203 grenade launcher and using standard nato ammo

the other 4 men carry:
a minime light machine gun using plastic ammo boxes and extra-lightweight constructionto reduce weight down as much as possible.

all the ammo is interchangeable and spare ammo distributed evenly to stop the men with machine guns being slowed by extra ammo

anyway looks like most of this will be possible /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (maybe you could implement seperate backpack/body inventory and have the pack detachable?, just a thought) thanks guys for the great mod /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

for those who havent read the book it is about a squad sent into iraq to take out scud launchers and one of the iragi's M.S.I. (main supply something, i forget) they took were heli-dropped behind the lines and worked at night, forgive me if i get the times wrong it is a while since i read it) first night, observed a scud launch and got a rough fix on its position, first day slept (with 2 men on watch at all times), second night they took out the scud minime's giving fire support while the m16's moved in,third day- same as first, third night planted charges on the buried MSI (which was an underground landline connecting air-defense and early warning staions etc) third day discovered by a goat-herders son who they didnt kill seeing as they would likely be found when the son was searched for, turned out they were camped next to an armoured brigade...

over the next evening, they were in several pithced battles with the brigade in which they took out :
2 apc's
3 soft vehicles
about 150 iraqi's

over the next 4/5 days :
3 team members killed, 3 captured and tortured later released to the red cross after the allies won, 1 escaped the country, 1 made it to a red cross hospitle where he hid as a civilian

end result,

9 destroyed iraqi vehicles,
1 destoyed scud
1 partially destroyed MSI (knocking out about 60% of the regions air defense, early warning and C&C)
nearly 300 dead iraqi soldiers

also tunred out later that the sas had a far greater role in stopping scud attacks than the patriot launchers, destroying more than were shot down before they could launch

Eliwar
3rd Oct 2000, 10:04 PM
wow, a recap longer than the original explanation /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Bladestorm
4th Oct 2000, 09:14 AM
its habit what can i say /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif plus i read the original and decided i could do much better /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I_ABuGa
4th Oct 2000, 12:43 PM
gee, sounds like you read a book lately. I think it was one of them SAS books - The SAS in action, or The Real SAS. Are these sort of books interesting? I usually just browse past them in the bookshop. Maybe i ought to go rent one sometime.

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Styx_Surfer
4th Oct 2000, 04:08 PM
I have SAS in Action by Chris Grant, it contains all kinds of useful info on their campaigns from WW2 to the Gulf and nice pics and info about their equipment and tactics.

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Bladestorm
4th Oct 2000, 08:36 PM
this one is called "Bravo-two-zero" (as i said in my post) it is a true account by the leader of the team in question, (bavo-two-zero)

Reefslayer
5th Oct 2000, 08:25 AM
I suppose re-enacting an actual unit is a logical thing to do with inf.Given that afaik all weapons/eqip' are gonna be pre selected and bring an accomanying weight penalty you might not be able to get a loadout like the one you describe.Also future releases won't include a rocket launcher if I remember right.

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I_ABuGa
5th Oct 2000, 12:05 PM
we'll just have to wait and see.

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ShakKen
6th Oct 2000, 03:59 AM
INF will be pretty versatile, so if you can grab a few friends and get them to kit yourself out the way the real McCoy does, go right ahead;)

But you'll find the complexity of the combat theater only goes as far as we can push the engine technology.

In other words, looking at calling random birds on the TACBE and rolling around over hundreds of kilometers in a pinky is not going to happen anytime soon.

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MrLaggy
6th Oct 2000, 09:54 AM
This is getting off topic, but the BBC did a TV movie version of 'Bravo Two Zero' a couple of years ago, which was very good (though obviously left out much of the book, based on the description above). Shame it doesn't seem to be out on DVD at the moment.

Bladestorm
6th Oct 2000, 09:55 AM
hehe i wasnt expecting that /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif i think my serious suggestion is the detachable pack so you can speed yourself up at the risk of losing equipment /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bladestorm
6th Oct 2000, 09:59 AM
yeah i think the film was just from the point of view of the leader, and left out all the build up and background etc