View Full Version : Little mindblowing idea from Timmie D....
/\l!eN[RIP]
5th Jul 2000, 12:15 PM
Consider yourself a top of the bill terrorist and your sneaking through a small alley to find some morronic (2 r's right??) C-Terrorist ass to gib. Suddenly such a morron jumps around the corner and
throws a frag-grenade in front of you. A top of the bill Terrorist should pick up the grenade and throw it back! Would be cool right, this way you will have to carefully plan throwing a grenade, otherwise you just providing the opposing part with ammo. I've seen it happen in Saving Private Ryan (I consider this a realistic film...). Allies were throwing pantzerfists back to the nazi's when their hiding place was discovered and the Germans (germs) started pumpin'in some pantzerfists...
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Styx_Surfer
5th Jul 2000, 12:58 PM
Actually, you don't throw a Panzerfaust, you shoot it. It's like a 66 LAW, a one shot disposable anti-tank weapon. What they are throwing in the scene you mention is actually handgrenades... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
/\l!eN[RIP]
5th Jul 2000, 01:17 PM
Panzerfist, Panzerfaust, handgrenades, throwing, shooting...
whatever... You probably noticed I'm not an expered in weapons, hell I can't even see the diverence between a baretta and a bazooka (so to speak). As long as it frags and gibs, it's green lights for me baby
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INF_Neo
5th Jul 2000, 01:27 PM
Would be too complicated ingame.
What was this with the Germans?
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Curtz
5th Jul 2000, 05:24 PM
sounds like a good idea< but if picking it up and throwing is to hard why not just- when the gren. is stationary a player can run towards it and kick it (no new anims. needed) in the direction they face. Would that be to difficult?
DeadeyeDan[ToA]
5th Jul 2000, 06:00 PM
I think the last time this came up they said the kick wouldn't work well either because UT's physics doesn't do rolling well, either way it would be much easier for everyone (player and INF team) to just run as fast as you can and find some kind of cover when somebody chucks a grenade at you.
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Supernova
5th Jul 2000, 06:13 PM
a grenade takes 3 seconds or so to blow up right?
So if an enemie would throw a grenade at you it would take 1 sec to find it. An other sec to run to it. And the last sec would be to pick it up.
BOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
Grenade blows up in your face...you still need a sec to throw it away. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Imagine all the gibs against the wall...
Anyway the point is why do al the work if you'll blow up anyway /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
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Curtz
5th Jul 2000, 06:17 PM
would still be prety cool watching someone run towards a gren and it go of right by them (saving p ryan stickie bomb seen anyone? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif )
/\l!eN[RIP]
6th Jul 2000, 10:37 AM
Nothing personel with the Germans just a little word-joke...or something...
But about my topic: I mean if someone tosses a granade to me and it stops right under my nose, running won't do me good, I'll blow skyhigh anyway.
Picking up the granade and throwing it away or kicking it away (the granade doesn't have to roll, it may fly little distance above the ground...)would make sense...and 3 seconds should be enough time to save your terrorist ass so to speak...
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/\l!eN[RIP]
6th Jul 2000, 10:37 AM
Nothing personel with the Germans just a little word-joke...or something...
But about my topic: I mean if someone tosses a granade to me and it stops right under my nose, running won't do me good, I'll blow skyhigh anyway.
Picking up the granade and throwing it away or kicking it away (the granade doesn't have to roll, it may fly little distance above the ground...)would make sense...and 3 seconds should be enough time to save your terrorist ass so to speak...
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DeadeyeDan[ToA]
6th Jul 2000, 06:39 PM
Most modern grenades have 5 second fuses, but you can always cook off some of that time before you actually throw it, giving the enemy very little time to react.
Keep in mind that most of the time if your getting a grenade thrown at you, you're inside a bunker or building or trench, some kind of cqb (if you were out in the open they could just shoot you easily), so you should have some kind of cover nearby. And also keep in mind that if you run from the grenade, you start as soon as you see it flying through the air (or in some cases before that, you can see a guy holding one when your weapon is dry or hear the familiar ping of the pin being pulled), but if you decide to throw it back, you have to wait for it to get to you, run to it, then pick it up and throw it. (And in such a stressful situation, some unlucky bastard fumbling the grenade would not surprise me at all.) And I guess you could do the kick without the grenade rolling, but somehow I doubt someone could kick it far enough to reliably save them- grenades are pretty heavy but small at the same time, and not at all bouncy... they definately aren't very good for kicking- it would be alot like kicking a rock, so kicking alone would only save you a fraction of a % of the time, because you can't get much air or distance out of it, some hole or cliff has to be near you and not any higher than ground level. You could kick it down a hall or something and then get behind a corner, but that would be kicking + running, and you'd probably be better off just running behind a different corner, instead of wasting all that time kicking it.
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Shot four puppet governors in a line,
Shook all tha world bankers, who think they can rhyme,
Shot the landlords, who knew it was mine,
Yes, its a war from the depth of time!
/\l!eN[RIP]
7th Jul 2000, 08:22 AM
k, it's true what you're saying...
When I thought it over again I realized I would run away too instead of running towards it and kicking it away...
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Curtz
7th Jul 2000, 02:32 PM
yeah, i can see your point too, lying in prone position sniping the enemy when a grenade comes-a-rolling by your head, get up run BOOM no legs /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif . in that kind of situation grab throw would prob. be the best tactic . you see it depends on ur situtuation. but if implementing this into the game will be too hard, guess all a soldier can do is stay down and exept fate.
ShakKen
7th Jul 2000, 10:36 PM
Helloo, any soldier with half a brain knows that the first(or last) thing you do when you see a grenade in close proximity is to turn around and run in the opposite direction as quickly as possible.
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INF_Neo
8th Jul 2000, 05:31 AM
well, actually I'd throw the next person onto the grenade to save my captain /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Neo
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Curtz
8th Jul 2000, 07:46 AM
OK, i do see your point also dont want to throw the grenade into a bunch of frendlies just to save your own skin now, do you.
but IIII would still throw it, depending on situation(if i had good close cover, hide) BUT thankfully i don't get many gren rolling about near me.
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