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RegularX
21st Feb 2000, 06:21 PM
OK, it's only about a week after I thought I'd get this far, but things like having a real job really slows things down.


This version is for Real-World/Infiltration only, so I'm interested in weapon placement and other such things.

My fave, btw, is 12 player team dm.

The link: http://www.inkless.com/DM-FultonRLb2.zip

(I travelled in time and updated this link, so it's the latest - reg/x/ - feb25)


[This message has been edited by RegularX (edited 02-25-2000).]

22nd Feb 2000, 12:01 PM
Nice improvements on the second beta, the benches are nice, and youve increased the realism a lot

The only thing that I crave is more cover in the map, I know it may not be like your office, but there are some big gaps were you are wide open. I think thats what youre trying to do whith the benches, but you can duck behind them.
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22nd Feb 2000, 12:01 PM
Nice improvements on the second beta, the benches are nice, and youve increased the realism a lot

The only thing that I crave is more cover in the map, I know it may not be like your office, but there are some big gaps were you are wide open. I think thats what youre trying to do whith the benches, but you can duck behind them.
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RegularX
22nd Feb 2000, 01:51 PM
Ducking == bad for any reason?

Yeah, I know, but that's really the max number of benches/desks I could put in without things starting to chug. They don't really affect anything until you start grouping it together. But, I agree, and I'm thinking I can get some crates in the two large rooms, and the dead end hallway (so it can at least be an ambush point).

Wanderer
22nd Feb 2000, 10:14 PM
Just checked it out and 1 thing sprung to mind. Where's the wall art? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Another a few windows poking outside would be nice.

RegularX
23rd Feb 2000, 02:08 AM
Wall art /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I've considered it. Also some more "trimmings" Bare walls is actually kinda uncommon at our place. Usually there is posters or something up.

The windows outside was one of my great letdowns. This map essentially a couple of huge subtract brushes, which makes creating a realistic outside hard. First map in UED remember, and I had one of those "oh sh*t" realizations. But I hear ya, and I'll start looking at possibilities.

RegularX
23rd Feb 2000, 06:11 AM
OK. new version. Sorry for the new filename, but the software developer in me believes in versions /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Changes:
*)All new texture changes
*)Added crates to the large 2nd floor room and dead end hallway
*)Re-arranged weapon placement a little. Added some.

I know there's some more. Wall art /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. I think one crate is floating. But let me know what ya think anyway.
http://www.inkless.com/DM-FultonRLb2.zip

and if you didn't already download the real world textures, download the whole thing at
http://www.inkless.com/DM-FultonRLb2Full.zip

(this is uploading as I speak, actually, but should be OK by the time anyone reads this...)

Murdock
23rd Feb 2000, 06:44 PM
This is odd. I've downloaded each version of this map (with the full textures), but I haven't been able to run it. I get a message that says, "Can't find file for package 'Urban.'" Everyone else has been able to run the map, I see, so I wonder what the problem could be. Here are the files I unzipped:

In my textures folder: jtex, fulton, a3text, Citytex, streetex, Urban2.

In my map folder: DM-FultonRLb2

Anything seem amiss?

RegularX
23rd Feb 2000, 07:29 PM
My mistake, murlock, I must have left it out of realtexs. I think I had it from the old Infiltration texture pack. I'm at work now, but I will upload a revised version tonight.

For now, you can download that texture set from here:

ftp://128.138.162.150/Infiltration/MapDepot/Textures/Urban.zip

Many apologies and thanks for posting the notice.

[This message has been edited by RegularX (edited 02-23-2000).]

Murdock
24th Feb 2000, 12:09 AM
No problem. It was because I'm new to Infiltration and didn't have the Bones texture pack. Just so you'll know, I also had to grab the Blade texture set from that pack to get the map to work. After that, it loaded right up. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RegularX
24th Feb 2000, 12:13 AM
Ack! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. I'll make sure to add that in tonight

rojazz
24th Feb 2000, 01:29 AM
hey, where can i get the blade texture pack? can't seem to find it anywhere...

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Murdock
24th Feb 2000, 02:39 AM
On the Mapping page at this site, look under Textures. You want the Bone's Unofficial texture pack.

RegularX
24th Feb 2000, 04:05 AM
Okay, sorry for me being such a dink. Hope this didn't stop too many people from playing the map.
http://www.inkless.com/DM-FultonRLb2Full.zip

Everything you need. Added in the Urban and Blade textures.
http://www.inkless.com/realtexs.zip

If you just need the textures.

I'll also email the Real Maps folks and see about getting their beta link updated.

RegularX
24th Feb 2000, 02:34 PM
Coffeycan just emailed me with the suggestion to put only the needed textures into fulton.utx. If anyone is having trouble downloading due to size, wait till tonight. I'll get the slimmed down version of b2 up then.

Sorry for all this. UED newbie, I be.

RegularX
25th Feb 2000, 06:25 AM
New beta up, smaller size. One download. About half the size of the original.
http://www.inkless.com/DM-FultonRLb2.zip

(i know, should updated the filename. UED crashed 9 times while I was trying to rearrange the textures, so I felt lucky to save at all)

New changes:
1)Sounds added to doors
2)Some new texturing
3)A few brush fixes
4)Fake doors. Locked msg if you try and opend them
5)Music taken out
6)Some new windows
7)Minor bot-pathing fix

Download. Enjoy. Critique.

Lance201
25th Feb 2000, 06:37 AM
I will try the new version.. because the old one was to slow on my system PIII(500) V3. Hope it will get faster because the map is nice!

LCPL TWENTY

RegularX
25th Feb 2000, 01:03 PM
Really?? Anyone else getting that kind of performace hit?

I've played on a PII/450 with a TNT2, at 800x600, occassionally I had a framerate drop, but never unplayable. I also tested it last night in software mode, and it seemed OK. CC, don't you usually test on a celeron?

Was there a particular place where the slowdown occured, Lance?

Lance201
25th Feb 2000, 01:18 PM
canĀ“t say, just will test it at the WE...

LCPL TWENTY

RegularX
26th Feb 2000, 06:23 PM
OK, to anyone betatesting, I'm really looking for feedback on:

1)Performance. Most important. If there really is a performance hit on most machines, I need to know pronto. My stats show that occasionally the FPS hits 20, but that's rare and usually fleeting. Poly count is generally low.
2)Cover. I can use the crates to provide additional cover in areas that need it. I think the new crates in the big room aid a lot, but can add a few more in here and there.
3)Spawn points. I know this sounds like a weird one at a beta4, but I play this level Team a lot. I like that the teams are intermingled, but I seem to get ambused sometimes by a strategically located bot.
4)Weapon placement

Hope you guys are enjoying it. I'm locked to a desk at work for most of this week, but I might make some minor changes tommorrow.

RegularX
28th Feb 2000, 03:17 AM
Okay, latest update is near final. I'll probably throw it for a review in a couple of days. I haven't had any comments/emails this weekend, so I assume all is well /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

*)added some new boxes as cover
*)couple texture tweaks
*)couple lighting tweaks
*)added some ammo

Get the latest here: http://www.inkless.com/DM-FultonRLinf.zip

RegularX
1st Mar 2000, 04:14 AM
This baby is done. Download it at:
http://www.inkless.com/utmaps/DM-FultonRLinf.zip

This is an infiltration only map (weapon classes). I'll do some variants later this week that aren't.

RegularX
3rd Mar 2000, 02:22 PM
Review is up at the realmaps folks. Buddy Pickle was kind on my first map effort, I believe /infopop/emoticons\icon_wink.gif. But, as long some people are having as much fun 6 on 6 team deathmatch as I am, it was worth it.

The screenshot pics seem to be broken on the review page, unfortunately...

Buddy_Pickle
4th Mar 2000, 01:31 AM
DOH!!!! I just fixed it. Sorry everyone, especially you RegularX. I goofed those screens....

BuddyPickle www.planetunreal.com/realmaps (http://www.planetunreal.com/realmaps)

RegularX
4th Mar 2000, 05:12 PM
Sokay, m'man, tanx again for the review /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.