@Home will suffer for this abomination...

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RogueLeader

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Indiana. Kill me please.
What the bloody ******* hell is wrong with those **** **** eating bastards at @home!?!?! A ******* two month old child could do a better job running a **** ISP simply by vomiting all over their ******* computers and then licking it back up. Is it really that ******* hard for even the **** retarded ******* idiots there to keep their piece of **** DHCP server running for 5 god **** minutes!?!?! If they can't fix this **** I'm going to go cut off their ******* arms and legs and beat them to death with them, then murder the ones they love best!

Ah, felt good to vent that....
 

RogueLeader

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Indiana. Kill me please.
I'll say the gruesomly violent image of jesus nailed to a cross is what made me a killer. That'll way can kill @Home AND discredit the extreme right. Its win win!!!
 

A-Brother-Grimm

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I ****en hate @Home too, I got it. they ****en over-sold their ****ing product without knowing how to run a ****ing ISP! Those ****ing morons cant count to three, now at about 5:30 to 7:00 I get a ****en ping of 2 ****ing hundred!
That also felt good to vent...
/me goes and rips the president of Cogeco's (@home provider) arms off and beats him 'till he bleeds to death.
 

Wikkan

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Reading that made me happy I have *shaw*@home. Which is much faster and has decent tech support here. Despite a disconnect spaced randomly between 2 or 3 months. Good news on my half, they boosted the line speed up a meg, and installed new servers. Roxx0rz!

:D :D :D
 

Dano3000

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I know what you are talking about, but I think mine is ****ing worse **** eaters mother ****ing god damn ******* pieces of **** ************** god damn *********************and*********************************************************, **** **** **** **** ****EN ****EN ****EN ******* PIECES OF ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BWAAAAA **** EEERRRRSSSS, ****!!!!!

ahhh, now i can finally have a culada
that was nice :D
 

Razorflower

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That's right...

.... ladies and gentlemen. Yet MORE peace, love and understanding from our friendly neighbourhood marxist, Rogueleader. Odd how the most outspoken and violent individual on theseboards claims to be a marxist... or did you even read his stuff RL... I have. And you don't "quite" fit the bill.

Get help soon RL.

An excerpt from RL's subsequent interview with a criminal psychologist after killing the staff of @home.

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RL: I saw a terrible image of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. It warped my impressionable mind and in a moment of weakness, I slew the staff at @home. It was the religious right that made me do it!

Psychologist: Now, RL. That sounds a little SNL. "And who made you do it? Could it be... SATAN?"

RL: AHA! You're one of them! The conspiracy deepens!

Psychologist: Whatcha talkin bout now RL....

RL: It's the Catholics and the Council on Foreign Relations, they killed Kennedy... secret moonbases.... our government hiding information on aliens... arsenic in our water... [deep breath] the secret order of St. John and the Templars, the deliberate lie of democracy, drug prison camps the model for human extermination, nuclear testing on our own citizens [blubber] ... black army PSIOPS, black helicopters.... black... black... [sings] " want it painted black"

Psychologist: You believe your killings were justified by the image of the crucifixion then... is that what you're telling me?

RL: "NO! YES! I mean, the religious [blubber] [babble] [incoherent ranting about how everyone and everything is out to get me, the monster under my bed, the police... ] COP KILLER!!! KILL ALL COPS! [blubber] [nonsensical idiocy]

Psychologist: Were you molested as a child Rogueleader?

RL: ....

Psychologist: Show me on the dolly where he touched you Rogueleader.

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As we leave our marxist, he is being led to prison, where he will find salvation in Jesus Christ, and lead his cell block's prayer group and bible study.

RF
 

Wikkan

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Whoa there Razor! That was funny, but what sort of problem do you HAVE with Rogue? Jeeze man... He was just venting about his ISP! O_O

That comment about Jesus, that seemed to be a joke and a jab toward people blaming things on just about anything.
 

Razorflower

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Do I have a problem...

... with Rogue. Nope.

But I will vigilantly attack each ignorant post he makes on these boards from here on out. Next to the textures I do for the team, it is my new mission in life.

If he want's to participate in civil discussion, GREAT. I'm tired of his oft too leftist and ignorant rantings on marxism, political and social hatred and intolerance.

If he'd ever actually READ any of Karl Marx's writings he'd know that Marx was a proponent of true communism, which promotes equality for the working class and peace. Militant marxism is rhetoric. It means nothing. He sounds more like a marxist-leninist to me.

Another thing. Both Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in their writings proclaimed that communism and the classless system required the practice of understanding, not ignorance. The Marx-Engels database describes communists as "...those individuals who actively support the interests of the working-class as a whole, without any kind of prejudice, without regard for nationality, religion, race, ethnicity, gender, etc..."

The current president of the American Socialists/Communist movement is a black man. Marx primarily attacked the aristocracy and the bourgeoisie, though communists often allied with the bourgeoisie in the interests of the proletariat.

Above all, the over-riding principle of marxist communism was not to achieve political objectives through violence, but through involvement and activity. Marx understood that militant movements were short lived. But if you could intelligently engage people on an emotional and intellectual level, you secured their interest.

Marx and Engels did not crucify religion, political ideology or race. They instead proposed another model, a model for discussion and involvement. A model which looked to a future of peace. Not violence.

Rogue just needs to re-read his own marxist literature and see he's misled.

RF
 

RogueLeader

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Well, looks like another communist vs. capitalist debate is brewing...oh well, I'm just too proud to let it go....

RF, you have just proven you know nothing of what communism is. I have read the communist manifesto and every edition of das kapital several dozen times (my goal is to memorize them). One of the most improtant ideas of communism is that no matter what happens there can be no legal change of government to communism because the ruling bourgeoisie will stop it. If the bourgeoisie try to stop progress then violence is the only alternative. And we have seen this come true, as the United States has killed off all of the legitimate communist/socialist/labor movements (in Guatamala for example). How ironic that the only thing left were the dictatorships that bourgeoisie claimed to be fighting. History has proven that violent revolution is required when peaceful methods fail. Take the American Revolution, for example. Did peaceful talks with the British rulers result in any mutually beneficial agreements? No. The reason was in the British democracy the colonists had no one to represent them in Parlament. Likewise, the proleteriat has no one to represent them in Congress. Congress is nothing but wealthy fat cats looking out for themselves and their rich cronies. Like you say, communism is all about equality. is equality that "oft too leftist" ranting of mine you hate so much? Communism does not call for working together with the bourgeoisie. You are thinking of what Marx called Bourgeoisie Socialism, which is in most ways capitalism. it is the way that the aristocracy looks out for each other, a near socialist system within their class. However, this always leaves out the workers, the people who earn the money. Just look at Congress today. Bush wants across the boards tax cuts even though supply side economics is largely unsuccessful. It increases the economy, but the increased economy only benefits the wealthy who already have the money because the business expansion displaces the poor, rather than incorperating them, through the gentrification of poor communities. So far Marx's economic ideas have had an eerie tendency to come true.

They instead proposed another model, a model for discussion and involvement. A model which looked to a future of peace. Not violence.
This is just pacifism at its worst. War always leads to peace. Peace always leads to war. Only after we have gotten rid of the class system can we have peace, and only after violence will the class system be destroyed. All forms of civilization are meant to benefit humanity and save lives. Waiting around while a dying capitalist system takes its last breath will cost many more lives than a revolution. With 50% of the world going hungry, I would accept an attack on the 1% of the population that creates that suffering acceptable.

Ah, and one more thing. I hardly consider my hatred and intolerance for human suffering to be bad. My hatred is limited to suffering and those who cause it, not politics.
 

Razorflower

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I'm impressed...

... I rather expected you to come back with something gutteral.

I have no problem with communism, indeed, if it "could" work it would be THE system of governance.

But, it doesn't work, won't work, and never has there been a recorded occassion when it has worked. It won't work [as noted on these boards before] because of the very nature of mankind. You aren't attempting to change the manner in which mankind is governed, you're trying to condition the human will. And it cannot and will not be done.

People don't want revolution, they want security in their work place, security in their homes, security for those that they love.

If you militants will call this complacence, fine. Fact is, YOU are that 1% of the population. It is you who the social masses fear, not the rich. Not the ruling class. It is the people who in the name of ideology or religion make war upon social order and security who are the minority. There is even a word for what you propose.

Terrorism.

And since you brought it up, let's take the American Revolution, for example.
I'd like to point out that it's the ONLY one of it's kind. No other revolution in recorded history has lasted two centuries. We stand now poised as the world's sole superpower.
And behind the walls we have built to protect our freedoms, nowhere in the world is your "classless sytem" closer to being realized. The average per capita income of a US household is many times that of most households in nations across the world. Socialist programs like welfare, government health care and other state sponsored programs are here, and here to stay. In America, if you need help, you can get it.

But... I am finished with this debate. You're entitled to your opinion, irregardless of what I might think of it.

"Is equality that "oft too leftist" ranting of mine you hate so much?"

And, on these boards, I am not opposed to your ideology. I am opposed to your attitude. This has nothing to do with marxism.

RF
 

A-Brother-Grimm

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Well, here's my $0.02

Communism is a good idea
It makes people share everything. everyone IS equal.
No-one is rich, no-one is poor.
But
it gives the leader absolute power.
"Power corrupts. Ablosute power corrupts absolutely."
it started as a dream for a utopian society
 

Sebu_NZ

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The first stage is to have a leader but after all the people are educated about it, their will be no leader.

But every communist society has failed to get past that past and remained a socialistic directorship, which is no communist society, hence there has never been a communist country every

although, before Marxism the french had an extremely socialistic society also a Jewish kibbutz is a prefect example of a democratic communist society
 

RogueLeader

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Indiana. Kill me please.
In communism the leader has no absolute power because it is democratic. It gives the people more power because they have an equal voice, rather than strength based on wealth.