in the picture of the M4 in the armoury section it looks like there is a sound suppressor attached. is this possible in RL, and if so, is it going to be an attachment for the M4 in INF?
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I don't think its a sound suppressor, maybe a barrel extender or some sort, he but I'm no weapons expert !!!, there is a flashlight to 
thanks. this will be fun... a medium range sniper rifle with sound suppresion... silent and deadly
Deadly, not silent. I would imagine the the team will not bother including subsonic ammo in 5.56mm. (Not a very effective load, if it even exists.)
The purpose of the suppressor is to eliminate the noise from the expanding gases resulting from the combustion of the powder charge.
The sonic boom from the bullet will remain.
It is much harder to determine which direction the shot was fired from however.
Also, the suppressor will eliminate muzzle flash (I think most do anyway).
The purpose of the suppressor is to eliminate the noise from the expanding gases resulting from the combustion of the powder charge.
The sonic boom from the bullet will remain.
It is much harder to determine which direction the shot was fired from however.
Also, the suppressor will eliminate muzzle flash (I think most do anyway).
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Exactly, Liquid. Hopefully the INF team will be able to pull off the sonic "crack" noise, so that they can implement supersonic suppressed rounds realistically (and take out UT's limitation on sound range, to make them useful).
Also, the (first?) M4 in INF will be the M4A2, which is essentially an M4A1, but with a non-removable (and more stable) carry handle rear sight.
Also, the (first?) M4 in INF will be the M4A2, which is essentially an M4A1, but with a non-removable (and more stable) carry handle rear sight.
Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but I have personally witnessed a demonstration of sub sonic versus supersonic ammo in a suppressed weapon.
Any object the bullet passes by, even trees, grass, and dirt, will reflect the noise greater than it comes from the gun. In fact, if you stand to the left of and slightly behind a shooter with a suppressor and supersonic ammo, the ear opposite the gun will register the louder noise. Yes, subsonic ammo is distinctly quieter, but there is a wierd advantage to supersonic ammo: the noise of the bullet flying (and impacting!) will mask the sound of the gun's action, hiding the location of the shooter.
Plus, think about it: if someone was hidden well and fired upon you and two other guys without a suppressor, do you really think that you could return fire in the proper direction before you were shot too? (Much less actually hit the guy.) So a suppressor doesn't change the fact you were caught off guard and ambushed.
Any object the bullet passes by, even trees, grass, and dirt, will reflect the noise greater than it comes from the gun. In fact, if you stand to the left of and slightly behind a shooter with a suppressor and supersonic ammo, the ear opposite the gun will register the louder noise. Yes, subsonic ammo is distinctly quieter, but there is a wierd advantage to supersonic ammo: the noise of the bullet flying (and impacting!) will mask the sound of the gun's action, hiding the location of the shooter.
Plus, think about it: if someone was hidden well and fired upon you and two other guys without a suppressor, do you really think that you could return fire in the proper direction before you were shot too? (Much less actually hit the guy.) So a suppressor doesn't change the fact you were caught off guard and ambushed.
I agree with the colonel on this one
(By the way Im not a newbie I just have been out of the loop for awhile)
I think a supressor is useless for a few reasons.
1. Snipers dont need a supressor on their rifles because they usually are aiming for a single target, the leadero f the battlefield. They shoot and Scoot so to speak.
2. Regular infantrymen dont need suppressors. They have the backing of a larger force to protect them.
3. Special forces may find use for a Silenced Sidearm or even an MP5-SD but most Seals carry larger weapons, M-60 ,Sqaud Automatic Weapon, M16, M-14, and even M82 Barrets, all without silencers.
I think you get the idea. I wont be against a suppresor for the M4, I just wont ever use it and it would be a waste of time for the developement team.
But thats just me
(By the way Im not a newbie I just have been out of the loop for awhile)
I think a supressor is useless for a few reasons.
1. Snipers dont need a supressor on their rifles because they usually are aiming for a single target, the leadero f the battlefield. They shoot and Scoot so to speak.
2. Regular infantrymen dont need suppressors. They have the backing of a larger force to protect them.
3. Special forces may find use for a Silenced Sidearm or even an MP5-SD but most Seals carry larger weapons, M-60 ,Sqaud Automatic Weapon, M16, M-14, and even M82 Barrets, all without silencers.
I think you get the idea. I wont be against a suppresor for the M4, I just wont ever use it and it would be a waste of time for the developement team.
But thats just me
Eagle-Six: Suppressors also negate muzzle flash which allows more rounds to be put downrange without fear of detection.
'Snipers' are not just people who sit in the bush wearing ghillies, they're anyone skilled at sharpshooting the enemy from a concealed position.
The Russians use the Druganov SVD not just as a dedicated sniper system but also as a squad level support weapon to boost the frontage of infantry squads.
As such, the weapons used by a sniper cannot be immediately defined. I do believe US Marine snipers still have a segment in their training dealing with the use of suppressors.
'Snipers' are not just people who sit in the bush wearing ghillies, they're anyone skilled at sharpshooting the enemy from a concealed position.
The Russians use the Druganov SVD not just as a dedicated sniper system but also as a squad level support weapon to boost the frontage of infantry squads.
As such, the weapons used by a sniper cannot be immediately defined. I do believe US Marine snipers still have a segment in their training dealing with the use of suppressors.