Which is better - Ripper or PulseGun ?

SU3000 · Feb 2, 2001

This thread got me thinking, which is better, the Ripper or the Plasma Gun ?

Things I take in account:
Ripper:
pro: Fires around corners / splashdamage / headshots / RL substitute.
con: Suicides.
PulseGun:
pro: A hitscan (shortrange) / non-hitscan weapon. No suicides.
con: ?

Both weapons have about the same punch in either mode (taken from Cleaner's faq).

LordKhaine · Feb 2, 2001

Pulse is better with a low ping, ripper is better for everyone else.

gramps · Feb 2, 2001

i think i prefer the ripper over the pulse. it's alt-fire can be very powerful when used correctly. you can lob an enemy flag carrier off a ledge, or push him against a wall and watch him eat his own rockets (hell happens to me all the time :))

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also, with the ripper you can stay at a distance and fire long ranged blades, wheras with the pulse you have to be relatively close. ok, you can't suicide with the pulse, but other than that i don't see any real advantages over the ripper.

oh yeah, with a ripper you can get head shots too (if you're lucky).

[UJE]Crakdeala · Feb 2, 2001

There is no good way to answer your question SU since both weapons are called for in different situations. Keeping in mind I am a 1v1 and LMS player mostly:

Ripper: primary fire, very effective when you're playing opponent(s) a little over your head and need to keep a low profile. Great for retreat while shooting the discs around the corner and/or flooding hallways from a large distance if you see a battle going on there. Secondary fire, i dont use it very much but its pretty good when you're out of rockets

Pulse: primary fire is shit, but secondary is a great substitute for the mini, especially in low grav maps like Morpheus.

PsychoPhant · Feb 2, 2001

If there's ledges to be had, the ripper secondary to knock people off.

The pulse can be used like a mini-gun, and as stated is good as a lpb's weapon.

It depends on the ping and the situation.

Which is better? Couldn't say. They're both pretty low on my list unless I've got an amp, in which case the pulse by far.

The Dopefish · Feb 2, 2001

I use 'em both when I'm out of ammo for everything else, but I voted for the ripper. It always seems to be the best for me.

ION_Ace · Feb 2, 2001

pulse used to be below hammer in my best weapon list, ripper is good once u get the hang of it especially the secondary fire for boosting teammates and knocking enemys into walls and off ledges

Big giB · Feb 3, 2001

Thing I like about UT...no weapon is better. Pulse gun is THE best medium to close range weapon, but you sure as hell can't get dudes around corners or shove other dudes off cliffs. It all depends on the situation. If you're standing around a corner and a dudes behind it, fire and you should kill him. However, if you're in a close quarters hallway like the ones in CTF-Dreary, Pulse will melt their balls together.

Voyd- · Feb 3, 2001

with low ping pulse secondary absolutely rocked. i wont get into how crazy it was on a lan either. whoa.

Necroth · Feb 3, 2001

Depend on the situation, but i like them both.
And the Pri-Pulse rocks on shortrange, and the sec. fire is great for mid-range.
But then the ripper is also cool with small long hallways, and sec is great to knock people back.

But the ripper needs some pratice before used right, and imo the pusle is easier to use

kamikaze9 · Feb 3, 2001

I voted pulse because for some reason people seem to lose all talent when they're in the path of the pulse secondary. I know I do

SU3000 · Feb 3, 2001

I am tending towards the pulse at the moment. I agree both have widely different uses, there are situations a ripper is a lot better than the pulse, but the pulse is more of an allround weapon, and it has this paralyzing effect, I think.

loserkid · Feb 3, 2001

I've never got really used to the Ripper, I can't seem to hit anything with it.

Now the Pulse Gun is good.. not the best, but good

SilentStrike · Feb 3, 2001

Heh

I just checked my NgStats. My ripper effiency is 70% and my pulse effiency is 69%. However, I had 3x as many frags with the pulse. Myself being a LPB, I'd have to say I prefer the pulse.

CrazyCougar · Feb 3, 2001

The Ripper is a great weapon if your good at dodging your own discs... which means once you learn that you'll be headshotting goes like crazy with it. It's also great when someone's cornered themselves and you can't hit them with a shock combo...

SamD · Feb 3, 2001

for me a tougher choice would be between the ripper and the booger gun.

pulse is among my favorite medium-close range weapons because if you got them with your beam, bring out the steak sauce cause its barbecue time baby.

FireSlash · Feb 3, 2001

ripper

im a sniper, when im outta ammo i take joy in slicing peoples heads off with a razor blade....

HEAD SHOT

dont diss the booger gun (ges biorifle)
that thing's secondary attack can kill poeople like a flak cannon second, and if you miss you still do damage, + you can cut of enemy advance so you can go heal
BOOGER GUN RULZ

[ACE]Revenant · Feb 4, 2001

I like the pulse gun, if someone uses it against me while I'm shock-ho'ing I'm usually helpless (Yes,you can fire some secondary shocks but a good player will evade it)...

But I like the ripper even better,I only use the secondary fire. It's great to jump around a fire some secondary disks at their feet.....works great at ppl using a RL....the disk sends them flying,they try to re- aim...usually leading to a suicide....

-Revenant

Tetris L · Feb 4, 2001

Like many said before: Two weapons; 4 firing modes with completely different purpose. To compare them is kinda pointless.

Riper primary: Stupid spam weapon. I rarely use it; only to spam long hallways.

Riper secondary: Nice when out of rockets and to bounce opponents around.

Pulse primary: This must be the most useless weapon in UT. The Damage needs to be at least doubled to make it a decent weapon.

Pulse secondary: Nice when out of ammo for the minigun.

Big giB · Feb 4, 2001

Yeah, the primary Pulse is pretty hard to hit anything with, except up close. Maybe increasing the splash damage can do the trick. As for RIpper primary, yeah, it's a spam tool. Maybe the firing rate and the bouncy factor should be reduced while increasing it's damage or something. Also, switch the firing rates of the 2 modes of the Flak Cannon around, like it was in Unreal. (E.g. Secondary was firing as fast as the current secondary, while the secondary fired as fast as the current primary)Personally, I don't give a damn about flak spamming, but this outta shut up those bitchy bitchers.

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