View Full Version : Which is better Quake 3 Arena or Unreal Tournament

22nd Jan 2000, 02:55 AM
I own both games and this is my opinio is this:

Quake 3, Yes it has big levels and somewhat cool weapons , but the levels are big and boring, the textures suck most of the time theres hardly theres hardly any variety in the levels , not alot of variety settings or playstyles like Assault or Last Man Standing, Charecters might be cool but the games is just BLAH! Its kinda like playing a game made by a 3 year old its so fake looking and the levels are like your playing doom its just not right LOL.

As for Unreal Tournament :
The levels usually are big enough, the textures are extremly good, charecters are somewhat of a letdown but thats what downloading is for. Thheres 100s of varietys of levels, skins, Mods to download and you can play cool versions of play like DM, CTF , AS , LMS , TDM, DM and Domination. And the possibilties are endless.

Overall Quake 3 has cool charecters but it just doesnt have much variety or realism in its levels and dowloads are all basically the same from skins to maps NO VARIETY. And UT has Variety in everything most variety comes from downloads such as maps, skins, mutators,Mods,Textures... ECT.

Scores are this 1 being bad 10 being good

Graphics 10
Sound 8
Music 0 (Never have it on)
Fun Factor 10
Controls 8
Overall Score 11 (hehehe)

Quake 3
Graphics 6 (Charecters would get 9 same with Ut too)
Sound 6
Music 0 (Ditto)
Fun Factor 7
Controls 7
Overall score 7 1/2

Please post what you think!!

Sir Fraggedalot
23rd Jan 2000, 05:13 AM
You are definetly right that UT is better, but I still have to say that you are retarded for giving Music in both 0, just because you never have it on. What if that was the deciding factor in the betterness of either game (it isnt), you just not score it because you dont have it on. Well whatever, UT music is cooler anyways. This post was a waste of time...

Sir Fraggedalot
"It's so sad when a family is torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs."

18th Feb 2000, 03:03 AM
What do you mean? The music is AWESOME!! The game is full of perfect music. I don't see why you disable it. The startup music is the first perfect music you hear.

18th Feb 2000, 06:38 AM
On the Dutch forum of Tweakers.net I had a nice chat with other pplz about UT vs Q3.
In my opinion Q3 simply sux. It's too heavy, mouse sens is in someway bound to my performance, and the overall look of it is boring.

But Q3's engine sux too (technically). There are way more, and way prettier things possible with the UT engine.
Don't bother to argue with me about this /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

What I think too though, is that it is everybodies personal CHOICE whether to play UT or Q3. I sort of quit Q2 and picked up UT instead of Q3.
But Q3 has it's charmes too I guess.

Level "compiling" is way faster in UT. The bots don't need extra ".aas" files for paths, and the shadow technique of Q3 (seemingly round surfaces) is not a new one, Cuz I've seen it being used in Q2 levels already (Don;t argue with me about this either /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif).

For me it's not only that I like UT better, but it's a technical isue too.

18th Feb 2000, 11:06 PM
I'll tell you what 0wnz. Falcon 4, that's what /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

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20th Feb 2000, 07:09 PM
I like squirls!!! No I mean I really like them in that dirty way.

(Hey you! what are you doing with that squirl at my keyboard?! Are you spamming!? Is That MY ID?????!!!!)

I gotta go now.

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23rd Feb 2000, 04:05 AM
I played Q3 at a buddies house (thank god I didn't get it myself) and well, I guess I just said what I thought of it. I was a diehard quake & quake 2 fan but 3 was just LACKING!!! I mean there was nothin really NEW abot it except the loss of a single player "story" mode. After playin UT I can't believe id released this thing. It seems like they just capitalized on the name for sales. Shame on you id!!! Shame on you!!!

"Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows...
...nor do I"

23rd Feb 2000, 05:56 AM
BTW, what's the music like in Q3?

24th Feb 2000, 12:09 PM
If you go to http://www.planetquake.com/features/articles/editorials/q3a-sdk_a.shtml there is an article about Q3A that I agree with. It says that While UT is better straight out of the box Q3 catches up when Map and Mod editors start bringing out quality stuff.
In the same way original Unreal is better than Quake 2 out of the box bot it is the same story Q2 caught up again when the Quake "community" started releasing exelent maps/mods.
However as a map editor I prefer Unreals engine to work with rather than Q3.
On another note is that D66 Guy pissing anyone else off or is it just me?

"The're out ta get me, they won't catch me I'm f*cking innocent"--Out Ta get me, Guns n Roses

25th Feb 2000, 03:45 AM
The graphics in Q3 deserve a 10, they are the BEST out there now, and Q3's music friggin' ROCKS! UT's is kinds corny (except for the track on DMgothic, and others) I always Have music at 100% and effects at like, 80%. Quake 3 has the BEST deathmatch expirience out there. But UT has more modes and better CTF. Personally, I think Q3 will surpass when the mods start coming out.

The Dudester
26th Feb 2000, 09:27 AM
There is no way that Q3A's deathmatch is better than UT deathmatch. The Q3 bots are no where near as good as the UT ones...they clump all the time in many levels.
I've not played Q3A online, so I can't comment on that aspect...but really..

The Dudester
26th Feb 2000, 09:31 AM
Not that I'm putting Q3A down...
I hate it when people say "My game's better than yours"...
Q3A and UT are both good (Q3A excels graphically, and in the excellence of the modification tools, UT in bot AI, Unreal Script and interestingness).
(and for all you Unreal fanatics who keep posting picking on Half-life....I'm afraid it *does* have a better single player storyline...but Unreal looks nicer).

<awaits flaming from UT fanatics>

26th Feb 2000, 01:44 PM
I think if UTs bots had the same amount of character as Q3s bots (each bot has its own individual character in q3a, where UTs Bots are all pretty much the same as each other) and the graphics were as great UT would be the perfect game. But now UT is the best game but Q3 is a very close second.

"The're out ta get me, they won't catch me I'm f*cking innocent"--Out Ta get me, Guns n Roses

27th Feb 2000, 06:55 AM
UT bots all alike? Tried both, UT's are better... depends how you configure them..

soon the gypsy queen, in a glaze of vaseline, will perform on guillontine, what a scene.. what a scene

27th Feb 2000, 07:43 AM
No what I mean is they all use the same taunts etc in Q3A each bot has its own seperate file with skill, taunts etc they all have a different character.

"The're out ta get me, they won't catch me I'm f*cking innocent"--Out Ta get me, Guns n Roses

28th Feb 2000, 08:13 PM
I tried the Q3 demo and played it online. I thought it totally sucked. I just couldn't see going online with 32 players and just doing alot of shooting, no real skill used. Maybe it has changed..i don't know..but the demo did not sell me.

I will say this..I did think that Quake3 had more stable game engine than UT. Until they could get it worked out Quake3 had the better graphics than UT and it still does.

Well..that's it!!

"A true friend will shoot you in the front!!"

29th Feb 2000, 03:50 AM
enough with the "Quake 3's gonna RuLe when the mods come out".

You're going to see tons of mods and maps for UT too because they had foresight. Foresight to include an editor, make it easy to add mods and mutators, maps, skins. The community is solidly behind UT and the very fact that everyone says "Wait until..." tells me one thing. Q3A is far behind.

Same old stuff.

Yes, I know I'm full of $I-IiT - but I'm Godlike dammit!


1st Mar 2000, 01:50 AM
I have to Say UT is better by far it has great graphics and gameplay

el Gato
1st Mar 2000, 12:08 PM
I played Q3 for the first time recently and was actually very disappointed. I guess I was just expecting more from id. You hear about the engine, the textures... Just thought the play and eye candy would be much better. It still may kicks a$$, but I was hoping for much more.

I agree with hal. UT is great out of the box. The additional maps, mods, and mutators created by the "community" only enhance the game. And since UT easily supports such mods, UT has a huge jump start. IMO, to say Q3 will be better when more mods are made, sounds like an excuse. An excuse for id dropping the ball and relying on quakers to pick it up and make the game what it should have been in the first place. I think Q3 could have been better than UT. But to me it just isn't.

(Probably a good thing for me. I don't have the time for another game.)


Hey man, sniff my finger...

1st Mar 2000, 04:58 PM
I guess you guys are right I really want to defend Q3A because I loved Q2 and it is my favourate game of all time but I realise now that Quake 3 is now offically a lost cause.
But maybe I could be wrong.

"The're out ta get me, they won't catch me I'm f*cking innocent"--Out Ta get me, Guns n Roses

31st Aug 2000, 05:12 PM
UT is better and thats that.

1st Sep 2000, 10:38 AM
look both games kick ass equally. Don't believe me then go play RA for Q3 it kicks the sh*t out of UT's version. The mods (RA, Weapons Factory, Urban Terror; to name a few) make q3 where as UT finds more loyalty in it's pre packaged game mods (ctf, dom, etc.). Bottom line they're both cool games and if you don't like q3 or UT yourself then shut up and don't play them. I'm sick of these retarded threads started by people with minimal knowledge of how much is put into a game. If you think you can do better than make a game yourself and prove us all wrong.

[ranting ended]

2nd Sep 2000, 06:04 PM
Here we go again....

14th Sep 2000, 02:25 AM
Well, I generally suck at games, but I suck considerabley less at UT than Q3A so I'll go with that one. I like the Q3A graphics engine - very smooth animation, nice curved surfaces, sucky textures etc - but I cannot get the hang of the gameplay, so I find it to be frustrating and unfun.

The Q3A announcer is much better though "You have taken the lead" - how cool is that?

22nd Sep 2000, 01:16 PM
It's a PLOY!!

27th Sep 2000, 03:46 PM
I like them both, personally. It depends on what mood I'm in. I do have to say that UT's bot ai is far superior to quake3. All ID did for the bots in quake3 is give them perfect aim in nightmare mode and slow down their rate of fire in the other modes.

1st Oct 2000, 03:27 AM
I left Half-Life at v1.0.0.1 and couldn't decide whether or not to buy UT or Q3A. After seeing the number of cheats available for Q3A, I decided on UT.

UT has great graphics, sound, AI, etc... We likely all agree on that (this being PlanetUnreal and all). What really makes UT stand apart from Q3A (correct me if I'm wrong; I don't know if Q3A can do the same) is it's inclusion of Unreal 1 weapons and monsters which enables it to play the old Unreal 1 maps. It's like having two games in one (minus the single player experience of Unreal 1).

I've only played the Q3A alpha test and I didn't have much fun with it. I prefer team oriented modes of play, (particularly with different classes) not mindless gibbing; there needs to be an objective for me to enjoy the game. Anyway, this is where Q3A has the advantage over UT. Sure UT has TP, CTF, DOM, and AS, but Q3A has Q3F - a revision of Quake TF, the ultimate team mod (IMO).

I don't recall which came out first, UT or Q3A, but it seems to me that the UT mod teams are slow in developing QUALITY mods. I'm talking about mods now, not mutators. Then there are the teams that are developing the same thing such as Infiltration, Tactical Ops and Strike Force. They're all the same Counter-Strike for UT wanna-be's! Why not combine their efforts to make a better mod faster? I guess that's up to them though.

Sorry for rambling. My point is this. UT is better, but Q3A has the edge on quality mods; which in the end, is what keeps a game alive.

2nd Oct 2000, 05:40 PM
Heh, read my review at http://www.hwextreme.com.

4th Oct 2000, 10:17 AM
Ok, enough of this bull****... We all know that Unreal Tournament is the grand champion of them all. I mean, c'mon, if I have to play in another frickin gothic space castle, I'm gonna lose it. Q3A is a lame ass piece of ****. It has no variety, the bots don't have any skill (just absolutely perfect aim for some reason...), and it's just overall crap. I have heard this argument over and over and over, the last place that I wanted to hear it was on the Planet Unreal forum. Notice the distinct "Unreal" part of that. Not "Quake3Arena". So I think that in light of this issue being played to death that it would be nice to see no more of such topics in the PU forums. Thannkyou, and that is my 6 cents.

5th Oct 2000, 12:47 AM

Ok, with the addition of all the "new" people, I'd like to comment on this.

Welcome to PuF and...

The UT vs Q3A topic has been long dead.

Now, with that out of the way, please let this post die.

and not be ressurected again in another 3 months!;)

5th Oct 2000, 08:06 AM
In Q3A you can't actually HEAR the taunts.......that's just gay......there's no point in them if you can't hear them. I like running around saying "Die bitch!" in UT.

10th Oct 2000, 07:53 AM
since i havent actually played lots of q3a (i have played a bit, but i dont own it so i havent played anywhere it anywhere near as much as my beloved UT), and this is my opinion;

i reckon that although q3a has better graphics, as far as games go, it is too much like q2, and q1, there is no new types of weapons, no new types of game play, hell, they didnt even go past DM in the retail release.... ID, shame on you.... tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk

10th Oct 2000, 07:55 AM
damn i gotta start reading the whole thread before i reply....

is there a way to bind different voice taunts to keys?

10th Oct 2000, 04:16 PM
beats the **** outta me :)

10th Oct 2000, 05:13 PM
wel I'm surprised that anyone posts an serious thing out here..

asking on a UT forum wich game is best, wel errr I wouldn't know the outcome would you????

10th Oct 2000, 05:17 PM
the QIII bots ain't very well scaled:

the easyest don't even shoot at all.

and Nightmare shoots everything(its just like a big cheater in HL wich can see true wall's and stuff)

the rest is also to easy.. : NO FUN

10th Oct 2000, 05:19 PM
Q3 has got something good to it:

there are very very nice movie's made with Q3

they just make you lol :D

11th Oct 2000, 02:49 AM
Q3 sux becuz:

It's bots are just like Unreal's. Total ripoff. on the lowest setting, they're total idiots & will ignore you completely (I was only shot once by a bot on the lowest setting & never died 'cept when I did a backflip into the lava :rolleyes:.) & like I said in another post, all they do is get so accurate, that they can shoot you the very second you appear from behind a wall or door.

It's graphics engine just really sux. I don't know why people think that Quake 3 looks prettier than UT. I just don't see it. I had the graphics setting all the way up & it doesn't beat UT. & ofcourse, all the textures are boring. Plus the thing will start stuttering like a southern hillbilly for no apparent reason even on just medium setting. I can have the world details for UT set to high & the skin details set to medium & not get too much frameloss.

Does this mean that Q3A is a horrible game? No. It's deathmatch is a lot better than UT's, even if the arenas are boring too look at. Does that give that jack@ss the right to come onto an Unreal/UT forum & ask this stupid @ss question?