some very weird s*it

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Last night I played CTF at one of servers from my Fav. list. What seemed veeeery unusual was flag carrier who can actually xloc WITHOUT LOSING the flag. I couldn't believe my eyes. I wasn't drunk or anything I swear. So, he jumps around and xlocs like mad. Also, when he dies, the flag dissappears too. Now I'm thinking it may be some sort of skin cheat or something. Too bad I have no screenshot or his nick but I will post server IP in couple of hours (I'm at work right now). Also, at the same time, I noticed either my teammate or opponent player had speed relic at the same time when I (or someone else) have it. Yes, relics are enabled but this was the first time I see more than one player using same relic at the same time. Strange, huh? I've been playing on this server for about a month now and this was first time I noticed these things. If it matters, I was never required to download anything while connecting to this server.
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Probably a bug, not a cheat.

I've seen it 2 or 3 times during 1 year of UT that suddenly a player looked like he was carrying the flag, but when you looked at the scoreboard, he was not marked as flagcarrier and he could t/l without dropping it. The player himself was not aware of it and probably asked himself why everybody was hunting him like crazy.

Once I saw two flagcarriers from the same team at the same timesside by side. Damn me that I didn't take a screenshot of that.
 
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Well this is several times that this has come up here now...and I have seen it personally. One thing you can do is to check if they really do have the flag. If they're on your team, check the game status(F1) and if they're not...frag 'em! :D

I agree with Cleaner...it's probably a bug.
 
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The flag thing is both a bug and a cheat. I've seen people do it intentionally by altering their skin. I've also been accused of it myself and I don't cheat. So I can only assume it was a bug.

The relic thing is normal. I don't thik there's a setting for it in the GUI but I've been on several servers where there were two of several different runes(i.e. two damage runes, two speed runes, etc.). This may only happen in CTF, I'm not sure.
 
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Kokensu:
I know you can add the flag shine to your skin as a cheat (if you know what I mean), but the guy I saw was really carrying a flag, not only the shine. U sure this can be done through a cheat??
 
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It's really quite simple. The image of your character carrying the flag is just another texture(a skin actually). If you were to put this skin on your player everyone would see it(since everyone has it). However just using the skin the character would have no glow. If you have dynamic lighting turned on the flag carrier emits a glow the color of the flag. This will NOT show up with this mere skin cheat. However the UT engine is very versatile and I wouldn't be surprised if someone figured out how to make your character glow as well.

The reason for doing this? It's simple. Yes you'll get more attention, that's the whole point...to draw attention away from the REAL flag carrier, thus allowing him to cap.
 
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Alarion, maybe there is such a cheat, but there's also a definite bug that does that. We scrimmed LoL last night, and someone on their team (can't remember who) appeared to have the flag to one of our clanmembers, when the rest of us couldn't see it. Of course LoL wouldn't cheat, but even so, if it was a cheat, it'd be pretty weird to have only one of us see it and not all of us. I'm not saying there's not such a cheat, but there are definite instances of it happening when it's a bug.
 
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It is a bug as well. Like I said before(no one ever listens to me :( ). The bug however is not with the player who has the flag, but with the person SEEING the phenomena.
 
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The flag you see people carrying is not a part of the players 'skin'. If the variable 'HasFlag' does not equal 'None' for a player then the flag will be drawn on their back.

I have a feeling what you experienced was due to packet loss. The little packet of data that was supposed to set the player's 'HasFlag' variable to 'None' was lost. Therefore the client computer (yours) mistakenly believes that that player has a flag, but the 'real' flag is controlled by the server and the server never really loses track of it.
 
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