Windows98 or Windows ME

[Swedix]

Now all pieces have come. I will put together my new comp.
I just wonder if I shall install Win98 SE or Win ME ?
I want replay from You who has experience of both.
And this is not OT, because one important thing is that UT should run without any problems. :)

[Noah]

I like windows Me, though I have read it runs 10% slower I have not noticed any major slowdowns.

If I choose (which I have) I would choose Me.


Just my thought.

Noah

[MagicDizk]

I’ve been running ME for two months now, and my ping have improved from an average of 265ms to 210ms and last week I had an average of 171ms and this is with a modem. So first of all, if you’re a modem user GET IT. ME has some bugs in it right now the main one is when you start UT sometimes the sound is distorted but give it a few minutes and it clears up, I thought it was just me but I have two other friends play UT with ME and they have the same problem. Also ME will do automatic updates, so if you are playing a game and you see you pings going thru the roof, then you must go to the task manager and kill that process. As far as speed goes, I think over all ME is faster, WIN98 second edition I had a 28 fps and with ME I’m getting 32fps.

[[Ci]Morgan]

I'm using Windows ME for 2 months (as well as Win98) and I'm quite happy with it. It's terrible withing a corperate network though: It sucks up all the bandwidth when someone is downloading using ME and the others are on NT, Win9x and Macintosh.

I'm not sure about how this works with a cable connection, but my guess is this will have the same effect when you're on cable; your bandwidth may just improve alot...

I found some improvement in overal download speeds, I haven't really seen much improvement with playing UT.

[Swedix]

Thank You guys.
I knew I could count on You. So, I go for ME.
Thank again.

[{A$$}IronChefMorimoto]

Just a quick note...
My brother has Win Me and bought a new GForce MX2 card and UT locks up on him everytime. I put his card in my Win2K Advanced Server machine and it ran fine. Don't know what kind of card you have, just thought I'd pass this info along.

[Claude_Ballz]

From what I have read, you'd better have all the drivers for every piece of equipment in your system close-by. Aparently, ME doesn't have as big a driver library as even 98. I've also read that doing a fresh install w/ ME is a pain, but if you upgrade from 98, you shouldn't have any problems ... not even with drivers.
:redeemer:

[Mrukk]

Give ME a go - you can always go back to 98 if it isn't to your liking. I have been running ME for a couple of months, and while they are some minor problems, it really is nice and stable... I can leave my comp running much longer without rebooting than I could with 98. And software will start coming out for ME which will help with the tweaking of it etc.

I noticed no changes with UT play - but then I did not look that hard.

[DragonAsh]

Well, i say use Win98SE

It runs great for me and I have heard both good and bad things about ME...then again, the same goes for SE *L*

[FrigginAnT]

yeah i've used ME for almost 2 months...runs GREAT...and its from microsoft..imagine that!

[AmigaOne|BuF]

I'm currently using Windows Me. One thing I noticed is it takes less space on the cd-rom. That means either they've included less crap or the code is actually smaller. Being the optimist that I am I'm saying it means Microsoft has actually eliminated some of their bloat code. And since I've been testing Me since it's inception I'd have to say that's true. To the guy that thought it ran 10% slower I don't think so. I've noticed the exact oppostite. All of my screen refreshes and window controls are much faster. I think Me has a smaller resource footprint than 98 and I've had no troubles with drivers aside from one thing: my Seagate DAT drive. There wasn't a driver so I redid the install over 98 and it went find. Two bugs up my ass about Me is they removed the Backup utility and they make you sit through that video after installation. Other than that I'd say it's cool.

[JuiceEggsMcKenna]

Hey AmigaOne, that's not right! The correct answer is "They both suck! You need Workbench 5!"

:)

(Amiga Bigot - 1990-1999)

[ThunderSub1]

I got my new HP machine last week loaded with Me and it's quite nice...especially for a home user. The interface is much more slick and the boot and shut-down times are faster than 98SE.

[Game0rz]

Q: im planning on getting ME just so i can keep up w/ the latest stuff, but im also going to get a little HD for my OS, would i also have to d/l the drivers to that drive?
and would my system run the same except when i goto my computer itll have 2 HD's there?

[AmigaOne|BuF]

Well Juice you are spot on! Don't I feel like the dolt! Well I do have OS 3.5 and it's pretty snazzy for running on a 7 year old computer. ;-) Just wait until UT is running on the upcoming AmigaOne. Should be cool.

[SimplyCosmic]

Morgan, I'd like to hear more about this:


It's terrible withing a corperate network though: It sucks up all the bandwidth when someone is downloading using ME and the others are on NT, Win9x and Macintosh.


Is this from experience at work or from another source? Could you supply more details as to what's happening?

I ask this because I do dorm network tech support at my college. Since WinME should start showing up soon, and I haven't been able to play with a copy of it myself, I'd like to get a heads up on what we may be encountering problem-wise on the school network.

If WinME users start hogging all the dorm bandwidth, I will personally manhandle Win2000 onto their computers ...


Miami University ResNet: Great throughput, terrible latency ...

[TheMan]

I've been using ME for about a month now and I love it. Wouldnt go back. It is not as bloated as SE. There is one important thing to note however. I have read and heard that the full install is much, much, better than the upgrade. I have the full install and its been perfect(almost) for me.

[FrigginAnT]

That would figure...same thing happened with 98, upgrade sucked...full install was ok

[Mrukk]

OMG... tell me more about how the Amiga stuff is coming along lads. The Amiga kicks ass :) w00t!

[JuiceEggsMcKenna]

Yeah, let's drag this sucker right off topic.

IMHO there isn't going to be an new Amiga in any meaningful way. I am not specifically familiar with the details of the "AmigaOne" that AmigaOne mentioned, but it would have to take a miracle for it to make an impact on today's market. Look at Apple - they are in a 100% better position than Amiga to push through a new consumer grade network computer platform and they cannot do it. Small fries have no chance. One problem is that Amigas need to support accepted standards, like OpenGL, Java, etc, and yet still offer proprietary enhancements over their competitors. The choice the developers have to make is "should we make it standard and therefore crappy, or way cool and therefore incompatible?" Not a good boat to be in.

Besides, it's not 1985 any more. The industry has changed. PCs are now a legacy technology, much like minis were in the early 80s. The upcoming focus of the mass-markets will be wearables, semi-wearables and "network devices".

Which is not to say that the Amiga does not rock. I still like to pull out Frontier or Stunt Car Racer at home and have some fun :)

People who do anime fansubs still love em :) :)

[Mixed Bizness]

Not to forget that when you type the cursor disapears, this one little feature has made such a differance to my 'puter use :p

I have experiance of both platforms and will reply a bit more in depth when I get home, if I get home

Q. Whats the differance between pariffin and petrol?

[AmigaOne|BuF]

My intention is to keep this from getting off topic which is why I say check out http://www.Amiga.com. Amiga Inc. is NOT themselves building a new machine but someone else is. As for the mention of network devices that's exactly what Amiga IS working on. Their new OS is supposed to run on everything. It won't care what processor is underneath. It will just run. As for the hardware it is hard to say but they are talking at least 700MHz but details are not forthcoming at this time.

[Mrukk]

Thanks Amigaone,

Actually it is very rare that a post doesn't go off-topic after a while here on PUF ;)

Anyway - back to topic :p

[Phydeaux{RoA}]

Things still crash, but now apps crash without taking down the OS, hence, reboots become a daily thing instead of an hourly thing. And like they said, I use it as much for the faster startups and shutdowns as anything. Plus, I run the Internet Connection Sharing on it to give the kids internet access through my cable modem connection (and hence, through my firewall).

ME is (currently) the best UT OS imo.

[Squeaky]

I got a question.

So I have Win98se on my computer already. Can I do the full install of ME without having to format my harddrive?

[Phydeaux{RoA}]

I did, no worries.

[Prophetus]

I recently received Win ME and hated it with a passion. But I left it installed because I knew that current drivers are either not made for Win Me or have not been optimized for this new OS. Well, I'm glad I did keep it. I recently installed some new drivers and wow, it works great. Well, the drivers weren't much help, but when I installed the newest version of GLSetup...the whole thing went racing. Yes, I know it's for OpenGl, but I swear my UT in D3D is better.

I used to experience stuttering before GLSetup but now, no stutters and an increase in frame rates (5 to 10). This also helped my netcode. The only reason I installed GLSetup was to try it out UT in OpenGl. That didn't work so well, but my D3D problems disappeared...strange.

Since then, I don't have any problems with Win Me. And when Direct X8 and Win Me specific (optimized) drivers come out, Win Me will be more stable.

Now, about the Amiga. I was and still am a great fan of that awsome computer. One thing people forget (PC users) is that the Amiga was and is able to use it's operating system and IBM compatible OS's. One thing I like about the Amiga was the OS was on a chip and not a buggy software. You could customize and upgrade the OS if you wanted. I agree that support is important. But if Amiga can use two or more OS's, then it will survive.

Oh, one more thing. The Amiga would have never died out as soon as it did if it wasn't for that idiot Mark Trammel ( hope I spelled it right). Thanks to his superb hindsight, the Amiga died. I will always think of him with disdain.

[Squeaky]

Ok I tried to install ME... I just ran the setup from the cd in 98se... But it said that it couldn't update it b/c it was the full install and not the win98se upgrade... how do I get it to do a full install??

[Swedix]

Thans for all your answers. I'm running Win ME now. It's takes time to get used with it.
What I noticed so far is that my d/l is faster and my ping is a bit lower. Must have something to do with how ME handles IP I think.

[Squeaky]

Originally posted by Squeaky
Ok I tried to install ME... I just ran the setup from the cd in 98se... But it said that it couldn't update it b/c it was the full install and not the win98se upgrade... how do I get it to do a full install??

Plz help :confused:

[Prophetus]

Squeaky, uhm...you are trying to install Win Me by using the 98se cd? If so, that's your problem.

[Prophetus]

Doh, just reread you post and made sense of what you were saying:). Hmmm, strange. Try installing it from DOS instead of through windows. You'll get a dual boot system. Don't install it into the same directory. Call it C:\Millenium (or something, just make sure it's not a name WinMe would use already). Then you can back up your critical windows stuff, like passwords into WinMe. Make a copy of your registry files. A longer process.

Personally, back up all your important stuff on cd. Re format and enjoy.