UT fps benchmark ( discussed -yes-understand no ) help

Striker III · Jul 27, 2000

ive got a voodoo5500 agp 500 mhz and 256 ram

is there some logical reason im only getting roughly 24 fps ?

ive read a heck of a lot about it , demos wise and what to do . other forums too and their scores are mostly far and beyond mine.

i wouldnt think that its the 500 mhz, as plainly put It aint THAT slow..... it isnt like this is a 333 cellery with a rage 3d pro card , but a quality system.

anyone have a P3 500 that i can sort of get a reference from?

also post your timedemo scores here
( i used two demos- not that intro crap)
(edit) used the wicked400 and the UTBENCH one( sorry forgot the url)

darklite · Jul 27, 2000

what api (d3d or glide) are you using?
what are your settings?

those two demos aren't very realistic demos.. no matter what the test system is, I never see benchmarks get much above 40 fps using those demos. CityIntro is much more realistic to what you play..
hit ~ to open up the console and type this:
timedemo 1
open cityintro

let it run through twice, and then open up the console again and it should have a line that says your fps statistics

on my athlon 500, 128mb ram, and geforce256, I usually average around 50fps in most games I play (usually ctf with 11bots), and I get 50-55fps in the cityintro.. so I would say that's about as accurate as needed..

Striker III · Jul 27, 2000

standard settings
for glide - tried d3d , almost no change

fsaa wasnt enabled,
well cityinro isnt a real game -, and its got a big black section at the end

but i get 43 or so ---
how do i disable the sound so it will run faster

Viper504 · Jul 28, 2000

i have a p500 and a geforce ddr i get at least 40 in 32 bit and all graphics on High.

maybe it has something to do with your motherboard, what kind do you have ?

Striker III · Jul 28, 2000

ow, heh , no clue
ok ill try and rattle off the specs

dell p3 500 ( Intel 440BX AGPset)
voodoo5 5500
256 ram
- oem tb montego bay 2 ( i think --- eeeh it works)
in the vid card setup the usual settings there except for the resolution 1024X768 , 800 looks terrible on my 21' monitor
zip/nada running in the background

im at the dell site , loooking at the tech docs - and i see that it MIGHT support all the way up to 850 MHz. ( that would be kinda cool, dropping in 350 more mhz -- wow

yeah , im not looking for miracles here , just an understanding , where , or if i am doing this right
im so used to quake's built in easy to use timedemo

on better reflection of the cards out there
i should have read some more and gone with the NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS as it 90% blows everythign out of the water

Rooster · Jul 28, 2000

I had a P3-500 for a little bit.

Ran with my Voodoo3 3000 AGP.

At 1024x768 - I averaged in game around 37fps.

The CityIntro is very accurate for min, max, and average - so don't go dismissing it so quickly.

I got 38fps average on the CityIntro demo.

With my Celeron 400 with same video, I got 35fps in game and 34fps on the intro.

With my P3-800 (650E o/c to 800), I get 48-55fps average in game, with 50-52fps average on city intro.

You should DEFINITELY be getting better than 24fps with a V5-5500 on a P3-500.

Striker III · Aug 4, 2000

Well , i gotta Dis the intro a bit ,
aaaaah h, fresh format of windows gives an extra 4 fps

but here is my gripe : in the middle of the intro it does this jerk , jerk , jerk
its not fps related , cuz im zipping along at 44 fps

i think it might be slowing to keep up with the speech that runs through
disabling the sound makes no difference
( nor does it run faster)
it still acts as if the speech is dragging it down
whether im running 20 fps or 50
"to win the tournament" always finishes 'just right'

at least in quake 3 , the sounds go so fast i can barely distinguish

............

Clayeth · Aug 4, 2000

YOU HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM!

And I know exactly what it is: You got a Dell!

No, actually a Dell is about as good as you'll get on a system you order... except for Falcon or Alienware, but that's a while different thread.

But, you'll get some cheap parts in there that will hold back the rest of your system. Plus some of your bios settings will be locked so you can't tweak extra speed out of your machine. But you should still get some good framerates out of that thing.

I have:
Celeron 500 @ 563 (which would be about equal to your P3 500)
192mb RAM
GeForce SDR

You should be getting AT LEAST my frame rates, actually you should get quite a bit more, especially since UT sucks in D3D and OpenGL compared to Glide. I get 42-43 fps in the flyby intro in 800x600x16. What resolution are you playing in? Are you in 32bit or 16bit? I know you said default, but I don't remember what the default is, it's been a while

I don't really know what you should be getting exactly, I haven't seen a lot of people's framerates with the 5500. V3 3000's seem to be about equal, often a little faster than the GeForces on UT. I would guess that you should be getting an average of 50 for that system in UT.

As for what's wrong, I don't know. It could be your settings, in windows, your bios, your video card, who knows... check out www.tweak3d.net for you hardware.

Also check with Dell, they might know of a problem that people are having with their systems that they can help you with.

Rooster · Aug 4, 2000

There's no jerk jerk jerk in my CityIntro - so it's not the intro itself.

Try upping your UT Cache size (ut.ini file)

Striker III · Aug 4, 2000

[ [ EDIT ] ]
heyyy- this is kinda cool

anyone else ?
1600X1200 high settings - 41 fps
looks pretty as hell

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umm
well also , it never plays the same ammount of frames

default settings are high detail actors and world
screensize is 1024X768

well heres a question
you bench mark it , and it goes past 50 , does the sound keep up? does it get high and squeaky

just kiddin.

it just seems the sound is always perfectly in step with the intro flying ...
the command to to a timedemo is easy

timedemo 1
open cityintro

heres a cpl settings
unrealtournament.exe -nosound

CacheSizeMegs=128
Sound Quality HIGH
3D Hardware OFF/FALSE
Use Detail Textures : checked
(also Disabled VSync within the game under
Advanced Options\Rendering\3dfx Glide support)

q3 timedemo bout 73 fps
my fav settings

Clayeth · Aug 4, 2000

OMG!

41fps in 1600x1200?
I knew you had a good system but D@MN! That just shows how much better Glide support is in UT compared to D3D.

q3 timedemo bout 73 fps

what are you settings in Q3A? Since my Celeron is running slightly faster than your p3 (53mhz) they should be about even, so this will compare the GeForce SDR to the V5500... I'm just curious of how the GF will keep up in a game that is equally good for both cards' API's.

Striker III · Aug 4, 2000

hmmm
q3 settings
i say my settings , as its a good blend between looks and speed
i cringe when i see screenshots in picmip 5

1024X768
cg_drawRewards 1 // show how leet everyone is
cg_drawAttacker 0 // who hit me - dont care
cg_drawAmmoWarning 1// ya , i need that , i spam a lot
cg_drawIcons 0 // no hud icons just numbers
cg_draw3dIcons 1 //gah , look at a pretty box on hud? not me
cg_gibs 0 // <<---- helps a LOT
cg_marks 0 //<<--- ditto
s_khz 22 // great sound
s_musicvolume 0 // but only the killing
r_mode 6 //1024X768
r_swapInterval 1 //dunno
r_finish 0 //dunno
r_dynamiclight 0 // no lighted rl trails
r_drawSun 0 // is it dark , or is it just me ?
r_fastsky 1 //icky white - i change this on outdoor
r_flares 1 // eeh , on off... no diff
r_colorbits 16 // 16 bit mode
r_texturebits 16 //ditto
r_detailtextures 1// no fuzzys for me
r_allowExtensions 1//dunno
r_glDriver opengl32//driver
cg_viewsize 100 //default
com_blood 0 //<<<<<----- helps the most!
com_maxfps 90 //just cuz
cg_drawFPS 0 //i try not to cry when its 25 on ctf3
cg_deferPlayers 1 //hate that pause

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