Does it get harder?

T2A` · Nov 8, 2009

I've been playing single-player to get a taste for the game. I'm about nine hours in, level 21 or 22, playing as Roland.

Thus far (I've done every Badlands quest and a few of the next area) the game hasn't been very difficult. Does that change? And what about when you play with other people? If the game is too easy with one person, wouldn't that make it super easy with more? Does the game buff the enemies and/or their number when there are more players in the game?

I know you can do multiple plays through and it starts all the enemies off at progressively higher levels, but what about on the first time? Surely the first play through shouldn't be a cakewalk, right?

Mozi · Nov 8, 2009

The only hard areas where ever you find Crimson Lance folks.

Most of the rest of the AI go down fast when you are higher levels. However, if you did know this, the game gets harder the more players in game.

JohnDoe641 · Nov 8, 2009

I just started playing Borderlands a two days ago and I've noticed that my pew pew makes quick work of the early on quest people.

I'm at level 15 right now, and I've been trying my hand at the 3rd round of that Arena thing with the skags. I can't seem to make it passed this one, the first two rounds were ok, but this one is meant for level 18+ and I can't seem to kill the fire skags. :c

EDit: I'm playing as that phase chick btw

shadow_dragon · Nov 8, 2009

If your lucky with weapon drops and get the hang of the game quickly then it's probably not going to get much harder.

From what i hear Roland is so self sufficient he is a fairly easy class to master.

T2A` · Nov 8, 2009

Mozi said:
However, if you did know this, the game gets harder the more players in game.

Good. I was hoping that was the case because it's been pretty easy thus far. Especially with the human opponents -- aim for the head and they're done quickly no matter how high their level is.

I beat that arena quest yesterday without any trouble. They didn't send fire skags at me, though -- the last round had two pretty damned giant regular ones with crazy armor. I was using a rapid-fire incendiary shotgun that helped drain their health quickly so it wasn't a huge deal.

shadow_dragon said:
From what i hear Roland is so self sufficient he is a fairly easy class to master.

Some of his perks do seem a bit overpowered. A turret that shoots rockets and lightning while healing friendlies? Permanent regenerating ammo for every weapon for every person on your team except for grenades? God damn.

Jackal · Nov 8, 2009

T2A` said:
Does it get harder?

If you rub it fast enough :mwink:

The games seems to scale pretty well. I think it all depends on your playing style though. If you level up fairly good before taking on quests, then it's going to be really easy.

I accidently made that mistake, and leveled up quite a bit before starting my first mission

JohnDoe641 · Nov 8, 2009

T2A` said:
Good. I was hoping that was the case because it's been pretty easy thus far. Especially with the human opponents -- aim for the head and they're done quickly no matter how high their level is.

I beat that arena quest yesterday without any trouble. They didn't send fire skags at me, though -- the last round had two pretty damned giant regular ones with crazy armor. I was using a rapid-fire incendiary shotgun that helped drain their health quickly so it wasn't a huge deal.

wtf, that's not fair.

I had to deal with four of those giant ones. They sent six of the smaller spitter ones at me, then the two big ones. After I managed to kill a big one, two more show up. Then five seconds later, two fire skags appear. :/

Jackal · Nov 8, 2009

That was actually a really really easy quest for me to finish. I also got the eldar skaggs with armor, and hardly took damage. I just kept backing up and shooting them.

Of couse, having a shotgun that deals good damage and lights your enimies on fire probably helped. lol

Mozi · Nov 8, 2009

Jackal said:
If you rub it fast enough

But not too fast

Slainchild · Nov 8, 2009

SP is pretty easy compared to (2 player) co-op in my experience.

And yeah, if you do all the side quests you tend to level up quickly, which makes things easier in the long run.

Fuzzle · Nov 8, 2009

As with most rpg's, I feel it gets easier as you go. I found the game to be at it's hardest at around level 5-10'ish.

SlayerDragon · Nov 8, 2009

It scales a lot better in co-op, imo.

Dark Pulse · Nov 8, 2009

If you're having trouble with armored skags, you'll definitely want a weapon with either fire or corrosive properties. Those are good for ticking damage.

T2A` · Nov 8, 2009

I actually haven't seen a single corrosive weapon at this point in the game (level 21 or 22). I've seen maybe two corrosive skags... I get the feeling the game is being easy on me because I'm going solo.

Sir_Brizz · Nov 8, 2009

I've only ever played the storyline co-op so I have no clue. For me, it did get quite a bit harder around the time you get to New Haven.

Mozi · Nov 8, 2009

Two New Haven quests should give you corrosive weapons.

Slainchild · Nov 8, 2009

Theres a loading screen tip that goes something like this:

"More players = tougher enemies, tougher enemies = better loot"

Kantham · Nov 8, 2009

I heard here and there some people have been able to fake-trick the game so it worked as if 2 players were on (see last line in Slainchild's post). The game seems to be made in a way that everything is eventually easy to do because of the availability. I suspect the linear quest system is a really big part of this problem.

I wished I would be able to have more quests 1-2 levels higher than my current. My alternative is just to confront higher level enemies and avoid A LOT of quests, keeping a focus on the main ones (The ones you're forced to do in order to progress)

It's a shame though, Borderlands is a really good game, but the quest system is trully awful and stinky.
Again, this game begs for an SDK.

shadow_dragon · Nov 8, 2009

T2A` said:
I actually haven't seen a single corrosive weapon at this point in the game (level 21 or 22). I've seen maybe two corrosive skags... I get the feeling the game is being easy on me because I'm going solo.

I didn't see any untill I hit the Dahl headlands which you're probably heading into next.

shoptroll · Nov 8, 2009

T2A` said:
I actually haven't seen a single corrosive weapon at this point in the game (level 21 or 22). I've seen maybe two corrosive skags... I get the feeling the game is being easy on me because I'm going solo.

Incendiary seems to be fairly common starting out. Corrosive and Shock weapons are the next most common and I've only recently started seeing explosives.

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