Piracy...

Interbellum · Apr 10, 2009

...no, not the copyright crap, the oldskool kind that happens off the Somali coast etc. Anyway, what's up with this ****??

Instead of paying these guys multi million $$ ransoms, and sending a bunch of expensive (and not terribly effective) warships, why not, you know, arm the crews? It's bat**** insane to send people into pirate infested waters unarmed.

Alternatively, if for some reason you don't want to arm the crew, add 5 or so armed guards to each potentially at risk ship.

Governments could help by patrolling the area with bait ships that look like regular cargo vessels, but are armed and have military personnel (marines) aboard. They could also send armed UAVs, and systematically destroy all small vessels that come anywhere near a cargo ship.

That should do the trick.

tomcat ha · Apr 10, 2009

because tankers burn nice

Zur · Apr 10, 2009

Because an excuse is needed to invade Somalia.

drakon · Apr 10, 2009

Azura said:
Because an excuse is needed to invade Somalia.

What the hell are they going to find there?

Zur · Apr 10, 2009

Where there's pirates, there's gold !

Al · Apr 10, 2009

Arrrrrrrr!

Interbellum · Apr 10, 2009

tomcat ha said:
because tankers burn nice

I don't think they're that easy to ignite with small arms fire... And in any case it doesn't apply to container ships like the Maersk Alabama. Fire at will!

Azura said:
Because an excuse is needed to invade Somalia.

Been there, done that, didn't work out so well.

drakon said:
What the hell are they going to find there?

"There is nothing for you here, only death."

das_ben · Apr 10, 2009

Interbellum said:
They could also send armed UAVs, and systematically destroy all small vessels that come anywhere near a cargo ship.

Winning hearts and minds, Somalia Edition.

You know, I'd rather suggest something like genuine state-building with partners in the area in order to create structures that help stabilize the region in the long run instead of just continuing to deal with the effects of the complete state failure in Somalia that happen to affect outsiders.

8-4-7-2 · Apr 10, 2009

They just need to execute all pirates they find. In the good old days it was so much easier. They were hanged - problem solved. Today the countries can barely agree where to put them on trial.
Even better would be to capture them, sail into some Somalian harbor and execute them there publicly to deter others.

TurdDrive · Apr 10, 2009

Argh

Hadmar · Apr 10, 2009

8-4-7-2 said:
They just need to execute all pirates they find. In the good old days it was so much easier. They were hanged - problem solved. Today the countries can barely agree where to put them on trial.
Even better would be to capture them, sail into some Somalian harbor and execute them there publicly to deter others.

Pirates keep the rising temperature levels at bay. I know that, you know that, we all know that. If you want to destroy humanity build a fracking doomsday device like ever other respectable mad scientist. This silly social engineering approach is really low-tech and not worth your time.

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TurdDrive said:
Argh

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Defeat · Apr 10, 2009

TurdDrive said:
Argh

lo wut D:

|*BILLY$CLINT*| · Apr 10, 2009

8-4-7-2 said:
They just need to execute all pirates they find. In the good old days it was so much easier. They were hanged - problem solved. Today the countries can barely agree where to put them on trial.
Even better would be to capture them, sail into some Somalian harbor and execute them there publicly to deter others.

No way they need to bring back the cat-o-nine tails.

dragonfliet · Apr 10, 2009

Interbellum said:
I don't think they're that easy to ignite with small arms fire...

They're not worried about small arms fire...

kiff · Apr 10, 2009

Interbellum said:
why not, you know, arm the crews? It's bat**** insane to send people into pirate infested waters unarmed.

they're saying it's to protect against mutiny

Alternatively, if for some reason you don't want to arm the crew, add 5 or so armed guards to each potentially at risk ship.

the larger corporate ships do, from what I understand. The smaller privately owned ones (like the one in this case) would have to deal all of the different laws from country to country and the customs agents.

Governments could help by patrolling the area with bait ships that look like regular cargo vessels, but are armed and have military personnel (marines) aboard. They could also send armed UAVs, and systematically destroy all small vessels that come anywhere near a cargo ship.

they're saying that area is way too large to effectively patrol. That said, perhaps organized convoys could be the solution?

8-4-7-2 · Apr 10, 2009

They are having convoys in the Gulf of Aden (that's the area between northern Somalia and Yemen). And they are successful. There is also a corridor that's patrolled by the three international task forces there. As a result piracy in that area went down a lot.

However, the pirates are now moving their area of operation further south (as far as Kenya) and out to the sea. The area that needs to be covered is really huge.

Q-ships would be nice. But I read that there are laws against arming civilian vessels. The west is really crippling itself with all these rules.

JaFO · Apr 11, 2009

The west wouldn't like it if others entered their waters armed to the teeth either.
Just imagine an Iranian oiltanker with its armed crew moving into New York harbour ... I wonder how many people would like that idea.

Besides ... as we've seen the pirates will simply move to the one area where there's less protection.
And if every vessel is armed then they'll get even better weapons (plus they may be even more willing to use them against crewmembers)

pine · Apr 11, 2009

Defeat said:
lo wut D:

The internet is stored on TurdDrive's computer.

Fuzz · Apr 11, 2009

Awww, I wanted to read about real piracy on the internet as in over the internet...

KillerSkaarj · Apr 11, 2009

pine said:
The internet is stored on TurdDrive's computer.

All approximately 7,420,000,000 websites? (From a Google search of the letter 'e')

Oh yeah, and pirates suck.... wait, why are they pirates? Do they sink ships for the lulz?

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