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dotnetbeast
6th Sep 2008, 06:53 AM
I just wanted to get how you all felt when you first got it and looked at how much you made, and then how much you could of made before those dammed taxes.

IronMonkey
6th Sep 2008, 07:03 AM
It sure felt good.

The company I worked for paid 4-weekly in advance. It was very nice to get a cheque on my second day there.

When I left them, it wasn't so cool as I moved to a company that paid monthly in arrears. Nine weeks between pay cheques was not so much fun. :(


I try not to worry about the inevitable - Death, taxes and how rubbish i am at DM.

Matfei
6th Sep 2008, 07:13 AM
Haven't got one yet.

All I've done is off-the-books casual work for cash in hand.

TheIronKnuckle
6th Sep 2008, 07:22 AM
what do you do?

Rambowjo
6th Sep 2008, 08:48 AM
I was 15 years old when I got my first paycheck, so I only made about 2000 DKKR. Compares to about $500. Since in Denmark I can make 30K dkkr in a year before taxes start, I got full payment. So no "Oh noes taxes are ripping me" feeling here.

Though I have paid full taxes (40% or something) before, and that was kinda bleh, but I still made around 1300 a month, so it's cool.

Fearless
6th Sep 2008, 08:50 AM
2000 Danish kroner = 382.92200 US$ lolol

rex
6th Sep 2008, 08:57 AM
I started off with a paycheck of £220 and I only had to pay 8% taxes due to my pay was so low.
Before I got that paycheck my bankaccounts largest sum was probably £150.
A year later I got £500 also with 8% taxes.
Lately I've gotten £1600 before taxes £1000 after.

Now I'm out of a job. :(

Balton
6th Sep 2008, 10:42 AM
I'm 24... so my first paycheck must've been ~10 years ago for carrying out papers. That's how I bought myself inline skates, an n64 and lots of games... good times :)
Ofcourse carrying out papers does not compare to working in a bank and receiving the salary... those were even better times :)

Azura
6th Sep 2008, 10:45 AM
I'm 24... so my first paycheck must've been ~10 years ago for carrying out papers.

Same here. I didn't get a paycheck but I did manage to make up a £100 or so working for a newsagent when I was 12. The straps of those bags filled with tons of papers sure cut into the shoulders.

dotnetbeast
6th Sep 2008, 10:58 AM
what do you do?

Help Desk. Finally left that dammed night stocker job.

Grobut
6th Sep 2008, 10:58 AM
My first paycheck sucked, i was still just a kid so they didn't have to pay me actual people money, just a pittance, but that certainly didn't stop them from working me like a dog for it!

The first real people money paycheck i got wasen't much better though, knowing that it would only barely cover my rent hardly felt like a reward for all the hard work i put into it.

dotnetbeast
6th Sep 2008, 11:00 AM
Mine was fine...until I also got a bill from DeVry U about tuition that I owed. That check plus death benefits from social security only paid a little of it so I was mad.

Azura
6th Sep 2008, 11:14 AM
You've been to Devry ? Do you still have contacts ? I'd like to learn more about the online courses they give.

dotnetbeast
6th Sep 2008, 11:32 AM
You've been to Devry ? Do you still have contacts ? I'd like to learn more about the online courses they give.

Im the wrong person to ask. I liked that the schedule was convient (I didnt take online classes), but I hated that I had to pay so much, but mine is a unique situation. More on that later.

Defeat
6th Sep 2008, 11:39 AM
I got my first official paycheck at 14. It, along with the next few ones went towards my first real computer of my own.

pine
6th Sep 2008, 11:43 AM
My first "real" job with a paycheck was working on a raspberry farm. I had to sit on the harvesting machine all day long and pick the green raspberries, leaves, and bugs off a conveyor belt. I looked at an endless stream of raspberries for 7 hours a day. It sucked. But my first paycheck was for 3 weeks of work and it totaled $430. That was more money than I had ever had before, and I got it all at once. I just about sh*t myself. :D

dragonfliet
6th Sep 2008, 01:58 PM
The first job that I got paychecks for was a grocery store. I remember being pissed at how little it was because before we had moved I would pick up some grunt work from time to time for a family friend mason and make twice the money with half the work.

~Jason

Big-Al
6th Sep 2008, 02:04 PM
i was to understand that there is no law in the USA that makes people HAVE TO pay tax?

Plumb_Drumb
6th Sep 2008, 02:06 PM
Income tax yes^

Of course if you have no income that's a different story :D

pine
6th Sep 2008, 02:39 PM
i was to understand that there is no law in the USA that makes people HAVE TO pay tax?

lol, no. You have to pay income taxes in the U.S. There are a lot of people who misguidedly think that you don't, but every time one of those cases gets hauled before the courts the same thing happens - either they pay their taxes, or go to jail.

Plumb_Drumb
6th Sep 2008, 02:41 PM
There is no law, pine.

I haven't paid tax for 14 years, and I dare you to try to make me. :)

sid
6th Sep 2008, 02:55 PM
I havent recieved one yet.

pine
6th Sep 2008, 03:18 PM
There is no law, pine.

I haven't paid tax for 14 years, and I dare you to try to make me. :)

Me? That's a safe dare. Why don't you write a letter to the IRS daring them to make you pay taxes? :lol:

This section of the U.S. Income Tax page on Wikipedia states it pretty clearly:

Ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment

In response, Congress proposed the Sixteenth Amendment (ratified by the requisite number of states in 1913[4]), which states:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

The Supreme Court in Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad, 240 U.S. 1 (1916), indicated that the amendment did not expand the federal government's existing power to tax income (meaning profit or gain from any source) but rather removed the possibility of classifying an income tax as a direct tax on the basis of the source of the income. The Amendment removed the need for the income tax to be apportioned among the states on the basis of population. Income taxes are required, however, to abide by the law of geographical uniformity.

Some tax protesters and others opposed to income taxes cite what they contend is evidence that the Sixteenth Amendment was never "properly ratified," based in large part on materials sold by William J. Benson. In December of 2007, Benson's ""Defense Reliance Package" containing his non-ratification argument which he offered for sale on the internet, was ruled by a federal court to be a "fraud perpetrated by Benson" that had "caused needless confusion and a waste of the customers' and the IRS' time and resources."[5] The court stated: "Benson has failed to point to evidence that would create a genuinely disputed fact regarding whether the Sixteenth Amendment was properly ratified or whether United States Citizens are legally obligated to pay federal taxes."[6] See also Tax protester Sixteenth Amendment arguments.

So there's the legal precedent. As I said before, if you take this to court you will get slapped down.

Those taxes, which I pay, my dad pays, my mom pays, and most other people pay, are financing all the public services such as schools, roads, protection of the police, basic medical services, and social security which you so blithely enjoy now or may have need of someday. Being a member of a functioning society such as ours in the U.S. means that, besides not breaking the obvious laws, you have to contribute to the services that make our society work. If you were really dedicated to the idea of not paying taxes you could go live in a cabin in the woods and grow your own food and support yourself. Otherwise you're a raving hypocrite; you are effectively stealing and no amount of defiant attitude is going to change that.






Of course, if you fall below a certain demographic line you effectively don't have to pay taxes. But it's a pretty low line.

Plumb_Drumb
6th Sep 2008, 03:28 PM
I don't fall below any line, I don't pay taxes and btw, **** that ratification.

equal trade. bitches.

pine
6th Sep 2008, 03:32 PM
I don't fall below any line, I don't pay taxes and btw, **** that ratification.

equal trade. bitches.

This post pretty much speaks for itself.

Plumb_Drumb
6th Sep 2008, 03:38 PM
yep.

There is no law.

Dark Pulse
6th Sep 2008, 03:44 PM
My first one, technically, was in fifth grade. During Summer School, my class did a mid-day lunch group (Called "The Lunch Bunch") and I made about $58 from it, which is a hell of a lot of money when you're 10.

Real Paycheck, my first was from a company called ClientLogic. It was probably 8 dollars an hour at 37.5 hours... for a total of a cool $300 even.

Capt.Toilet
6th Sep 2008, 04:14 PM
I was in 10th grade when I nabbed my first job. It was a summer job at our local ice plant and I believe we were getting paid $6 or 6.50 not sure. Either way we got paid weekly and I worked so much damn overtime at that place in the 4 weeks I was there my checks were a little over $300 after taxes. Seeing as how I was a penny pincher, that was an aweful lot of cash.

pine
6th Sep 2008, 05:01 PM
yep.

There is no law.

How is an amendment to the Constitution not a ****ing law?

Maybe if you repeat it enough times it will come true.

Nemephosis
6th Sep 2008, 05:41 PM
Yeah, I sure hope that whole "I don't pay taxes" thing means you don't have income.

SlayerDragon
6th Sep 2008, 05:42 PM
I got my first job like 10 years ago. :( Now I feel old.

That first paycheck was sure nice, I was also making tips back then as a busboy. I also got my first job with a friend of mine who died last month :(

Sweet depressing Christ...

dotnetbeast
6th Sep 2008, 08:46 PM
I got my first job like 10 years ago. :( Now I feel old.

That first paycheck was sure nice, I was also making tips back then as a busboy. I also got my first job with a friend of mine who died last month :(

Sweet depressing Christ...

Dude im sorry to hear that.

Used to be a busboy myself. Only for a little while me and my buddies would just scam people.

Plumb_Drumb
6th Sep 2008, 08:50 PM
I got my first job like 10 years ago. :( Now I feel old.

That first paycheck was sure nice, I was also making tips back then as a busboy. I also got my first job with a friend of mine who died last month :(

Sweet depressing Christ...

That sucks man, how'd he go?

SlayerDragon
6th Sep 2008, 09:35 PM
That sucks man, how'd he go?

Went to sleep Sunday night, didn't wake up on Monday. It was like July 28th or so. He had been in a jetski accident on the 4th of July, the handlebars broke and the jetski hit him in the chest. The doctors didn't find any fractures or anything in x-rays but they put him on pain medications and he had a really nasty bruise apparently. We don't know if it was to do with the injury or some chemical complications.

It sucks when stuff like this happens. I grew up with the guy, we went to kindergarten together and our families used to go on trips together too. Really good family, and they've been through a lot already. Just doesn't seem right.

But, I'm totally derailing this thread. Back to the paychecks!

Plumb_Drumb
6th Sep 2008, 09:56 PM
Yeah, I sure hope that whole "I don't pay taxes" thing means you don't have income.

Hope is for idiots.

FaT CaM
7th Sep 2008, 03:54 AM
First job I had was putting up fences at peoples houses, working for a guy who was running a small business (It was just him and he was looking for some help so he could get more jobs done in a week on average = moneys). It was bloody hard and I couldnt hack it, but I got $10 an hour cash in hand at the end of the day (7 hour days approx). That was freaking terrific for me because I was working 4 days a week during school holidays, I had more money than any other kid I knew.

That only lasted a couple of months because I would pike out mid way through the day and practically go to sleep.