Epic and MS...

What's your point? If you had one, I missed it.

emmmmmmmmm NO

Official quote from Epic Games:

Hi guys. Work on the UT3 linux client most defintely is progressing, albeit a lot slower than we anticipated. We don't discuss the status of patches until we know they're ready to be released. No conspiracy, just challenging work.

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Never assume conspiracy when stupidity will suffice.

haramanai said:

Corruption.
MS gives money to Epic...

The original MS pattent.

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As I said before, a round of applause for idiot Linux Fanboys who are convinced that if a game isn't out for their system at the same time (or even the same year) as it is for an OS with far more users and a far more attractive user base, that it's a MS Conspiracy/Buyoff.

PCs are already a niche gaming market unless you go for casual games. Linux is a niche of PCs as a whole, especially for gaming. Be patient or install Windows in a dual-boot configuration. You CAN figure out how to do that so that it doesn't corrupt your precious Linux install, right?

Also saying the 360 is better than the ps3 is just wrong. If you look at what the ps3 has standard, like blu-ray, and full hd support you'll notice xbawx is in its shadow.

Also op get some common sense.

MrMaddog said:

Never assume conspiracy when stupidity will suffice.

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Sig worthy quote

YEAH! WHERE THE HELL IS MY AMIGA CLIENT?!

That sound, is that $$$ changing hands??

haramanai said:

No Linux client and editor. We all know that MS is holding back Linux gaming.

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It's the same thing as usual with games; it's not that MS holds back Linux games, it's that game companies aren't in it for the hardware platform, they're in it for the money, and MS dominates the market, largely because of inertia, I think, because the OS doesn't contribute much to the gaming experience. So much so that most people equate "PC" with Windows. They've done some things in the past to lock developers into using their platform, and those things worked.

Looking at it from a distance, it's kind of bizarre that people are willing to pay money for MS when it's just an OS, it's pretty average by itself, and it costs so much more than even triple-A games.

By chance a handful of companies have people who are interested in doing more general work (like id), or being seen to be interested in more general work (like Epic), so Linux gets some ports, but evidently there's not much money in it. How many dozens of companies have licensed UE3, which is multi-platform, but not one has published a Linux version of their game? They are not being held back by MS.

It's another factor driving people to consoles. Why pay a few hundred bucks for Vista to dual-boot for games, when you can get a console instead? MS saw that coming, hence their investment in consoles.

That said, I dual-boot for UT3, so I must be a moran . I blame Quake 4 for not having bots.

haramanai said:

No Linux client and editor. We all know that MS is holding back Linux gaming.

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Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that Linux is holding back Linux gaming?

Resistance is futile.

haramanai said:

So what's going on?

No Linux client and editor. We all know that MS is holding back Linux gaming.

Bad port of the engine for PS3. You can find articles everywhere about that the same game runs better on XBox than PS3. Or developers to make extra work on the engine to make it run better on PS3. (There is no excuse that XBox is better than PS3 as we all can see COD4s performance in both consoles and by the time that MGS4 released there is no excuse for graphics performance)

Gears of War...As MS is the publisher.

So ...?

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Epic is substantially more experienced with the 360 than with the PS3. They also had more time to work on it. Both the PS3 and the PC version were rushed, the 360 not so much. That's what you get for Sony wanting a timed exclusive.

hal said:

Hello? Midway is the publisher of UT3, not Microsoft. The reason it runs better on the 360 is because they've spent their time since November tweaking it. The PS3 is not a straightforward machine to program for.

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^^ That too.
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I don't have anything against the PS3 (I hate it's idiot fanboys, but that's another matter, I hate 360 fanboys, too, they make us legitimate fans look really F***ing bad,) but I just don't see any reason to pick one up. I find ti amusing that now that the PS3 finally has a decent exclusive (after how long?) it's suddenly SOOO much better than everything else, it seems... Bah, that's another rant...

Respect doesn't pay the bills.

The continued lack of understanding among the gaming community that developers and publishers are BUSINESSES still just amazes me. No profits...no games. I'm sorry, you don't put forth a money losing or overtly risky course of action just to please fanboys.

When your actions with your mouths, keyboards and gamepads turn into noticeable actions with your wallets, then you will get everything you want.

Renegade Retard said:

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that Linux is holding back Linux gaming?

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rofl

haramanai said:

But I don't believe that Epic is an amature company... so they must been ready for the port of the Engine in Linux. But so long time? This is the reason that makes me think that something else is going on... like GOW2.

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Epic hand off the porting to a third party rather than doing it themselves, so GOW2 is unlikely to be distracting from the development effort. The last time any specific reason for the delay was mentioned, as far as I can remember, it was due to a legal difficulty.

Obviously id (with the Quake games) handles this sort of thing much better, technically, but there must be some trade-off because Epic is much more successful with its engine licensing.