n1 please oh please

[frenchfrog]

Randomize the order of the maps on INFGermany DTAS (perhaps SSK could help here?)

[frenchfrog]

me again, and add some maps?

portugal 2 - http://www.combatmaps.de/?site=dl&id=138
macedonia - http://realmaps.beyondunreal.com/review.php?revid=186
kosovo Night?
mortar (correction mostar)

perhaps:
Bullecourt2003 - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/?site=dl&id=78
BosnianWinter - http://realmaps.beyondunreal.com/review.php?revid=166
Scramble2003 - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/?site=dl&id=102

Never played but asking out of curiosity:
Hellfire - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/index.php?site=dl&id=74
(with is counterparts Isolate and Happytown - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/?site=dl&id=109)
(see KW comment)

EDIT removed:
Stormfront - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/?site=dl&id=70
(from KW: awful, the map is buggy and unfinished)
ContainingCriminals - http://realmaps.beyondunreal.com/review.php?revid=265
(choke point)
TheStash - http://realmaps.beyondunreal.com/review.php?revid=206
(buggy)
Smolder - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/?site=dl&id=23
(too small)

Thanks to DTASAL (http://www.ghostdogs.net/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1466) and don (http://www.ghostdogs.net/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1349) for the inspiration.

[Woden]

Hellfire turns into a door spamming contest. That's not necessarily negative, but I'm just saying.

[keihaswarrior]

Mortar? You mean mostar? I though it was already on

Kosovo and Kosovo night are probably the best DTAS maps in INF imo.

Bullecourt2003 is terrible, looks like crap, and has many exploits
BosnianWinter is small and crappy, it dissolves into a TDM rush-fest.
Scramble2003 is ok, it can be fun for small DTAS matches
Stormfront is awful, the map is buggy and unfinished
Hellfire sucks for DTAS, impossible to attack on (attacking is already super hard in DTAS anyway).

Isolate and Happytown are ok, but they are open and small which means lots of line-of-sight spawns where players starting shooting less than a second into the round.

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The MAIN THING on the N1 DTAS server are the camos. Please make most maps either:
Black vs Woodland
White vs Black
or
Tricolor vs Green

a lot of your camo choices really stink IMO.

[frenchfrog]

yes Mostar, KW

Other possibilities (that i never played): (from http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=169087)
(EDIT: those 2 maps are sniper friendly (BIG with not that much cover) and kind of bloggy)

piggiepie - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/?site=dl&id=329
(urban night map with long wide streets (North-South, East-West) and a couple of roof access)

motorpool - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/?site=dl&id=330
(military base with a big building in the middle with tanks, humvees, and containers around it)

Other relatively unknown maps:
(hill in middle and rocks)
MiddleOfNowhere - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/index.php?site=dl&id=200

(EDIT: This one look cool, big city with lots of inner buildings) (perhaps too big)
GreatInn-lite - http://combatmaps.planet-multiplayer.de/index.php?site=dl&id=117

[zeep]

Also add CTF-AndAction :p

No no noooo nono !!!!

[CampersDaz]

The MAIN THING on the N1 DTAS server are the camos. Please make most maps either:
Black vs Woodland
White vs Black
Are you really serious about these camo suggestions, especially about this Black vs. White thing? The easier camos are to identify, the more a DTAS match will turn into a UT-style TDM feast. Or can you at least post the maps on which you want the camos changed?
I don't play often on the N1 DTAS server, but i think Neabit (or who configured the camos) did a decent job with them.

[Neabit]

White vs Black is not realy what we want.

But thx for your map suggestions i will see what i can do.

[frenchfrog]

Thx, Neabit

[ant75]

And while we're at it, the last time i played on Inf germany you guys were still running Facility beta5. The final version is out, you should use this one instead (unless you have a good reason not to use it).

[Neabit]

Update Mapcycle with:
[X] portugal 2
[X] macedonia
[X] kosovo Night
[X] mostar
[X] GreatInn-lite
[X] piggiepie
[X] Facility final v2
[X] motorpool
[X] MiddleOfNowhere

[Neabit]

replace MiddleOfNowhere v091 with DM-INF-MONWFix

[frenchfrog]

thx Neabit

[- Lich -]

I would like to add one thing to camos (and this goes to all server admins). Forget there is the *black* camo and never use it again, there are tons of others. Thx

[DaBeowulf]

Hi, I've read up on the UTDC GPF problem which I encounter on your server at that admin forum a bit more and it seems the new UTDC version just doesn't support my Win98SE install anymore.
Can't you switch back to the version they run on FOOL's TDM server -please- because that supported Win98 or would that mean you'd be missing vital security updates and script kiddies would have free entry?
Anyway. :(

[Neabit]

mhh fool server use the same utdc version only with little bit other setting as infgermany

you have no problems play on fool server?

[DaBeowulf]

No, I can play fine there whereas on your server I always get that GeneralProtectionFault I linked to in the thread I started here.

[Neabit]

DaBeowulf try it again.

[DaBeowulf]

DaBeowulf try it again.
Now it works. Just made sure with CampersDaz. Thank you! :)
Now you can enlighten Troublesome a bit about that GPF and the ppl who experienced it, too ( http://www.unrealadmin.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13364&page=7 ). :D :tup:

[Neabit]

I post the reason for this problem but i don't think that troublesome would fix this.

[ant75]

2 suggestions :
- add DM-INF-St-Lo (edit : and remove central porktown, that map is awful)
- add yurch new 40mm, because without them the M16A2 is now completly obsolete (new40mm adds new types of nades for the A2 and HK69)

[frenchfrog]

I guess you can also remove piggiepie since it's crashing people with gpf :(

[keihaswarrior]

yes please remove piggiepie

[Neabit]

piggiepie removed
new 40mm and DM-INF-St-Lo will i check later today

mhh new 40mm change m67 therefore it could be that it is incompatible with wp1.5

[ant75]

Oh damn it, i guess i can remove all my m16A2 loadouts for sure now...

[geogob]

mhh new 40mm change m67 therefore it could be that it is incompatible with wp1.5

That would be new to me.

[frenchfrog]

but yurch new 40 mm do change the range and damage of 40mm? not only adding new types?

Also, perhaps you could add ant new map to the cycle ;) DM-INF-Thunderball2 (http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=173070)

[Neabit]

That would be new to me.
for me also but i found this

new40mm.txt
All grenade explosions have a reduced 'blast' area and rely on generated shrapnel to do the majority of wounding.
This can mean a close hit may leave a target standing but explosions overhead can bring lethal shrapnel down on heads.
Explosions also generate a very visible black smoke.
(note - m67's are also modified to match)

new40mm.u
class newM67Body expands INFc_M67Body;
class newM67Notify extends SpawnNotify;

[Neabit]

update to 1.5.1
and add DM-INF-Thunderball2

[Woden]

A few of us were playing and the server was crashing frequently (by the end, it was about 15 minutes between crashes). No apparent pattern, it was just crashing.

[Neabit]

thx
hopefully fixed

[Nukeproof]

I changed all camo combos NewZealand vs. German Flecktarn
into NewZealand vs OpforGreen on complain of KW/frenchfrog and some more (although I had never any trouble telling them apart). I didn't know anyone was running INF below maxed out texture quality and screen resolution ;)

Any other camos that are considered "unbearable" or maps you want added/removed?

Note: We tried to pick fair camos combos, where both teams can hide in the environment, that are sort of realistic and still possible to tell apart. And we tried to use same settings for several maps so you don't get too confused after mapchanges. Especially DTAS demands decent communication and with compass, RD and speechpad it should be possible to keep TK's to a reasonable minimum.

[theRoadStroker]

not sure if you still got artic vs White Urban camo on snow maps ..but please remove the white urban camo on all snow maps , it so stupid to see an urban camo in show ... rather put Russian (light blue) camo or gray camo if its a dark snowy map or such ......

and i would love to see abit more use of all the camo on maps, not like German vs Green opfor on every damn map it gets so awfully boring i swear to god ...everytime i see that damn german camo i just wanna rip my hair out and scream! However i love that you guys want to make "Fair" camos i really hate when one team have better camo then the other , i dont care if the camo is almost the same as the other.

Also try to pick right camo for the map that feels realistic ... not like New Zeland vs Japan in a middle eastern map.

[WWE]

Also add CTF-AndAction :p

No no noooo nono !!!!
heh do it!!

[zeep]

Did INFGermany change IP? It's offline in my list, been like that since yesterday.

[Nukeproof]

It crashed yesterday and isn't back up yet. We are waiting for our provide to do something about it (most like to send someone over and press reset)