Isaac Hayes - What the hell is going on

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So, first this Associated Press story gets released, and replicated all around the world:

Issac Hayes Quits South Park

Yeah, I'm sad. I see the episode, and I laugh. Things are wonderful. I start browsing Wikipedia, reading the notes from the episode, when I run across this:

Chef's Quitting Controversy

from the article said:
Isaac Hayes did not quit "South Park." My sources say that someone quit it for him.

Many people do not know that Isaac Hayes suffered a stroke January 17th '06. The article basically defends Isaac Hayes, stating that due to that stroke, there's no way he could have done this season anyway, and that's the probable reason why he couldn't do his voice. Instead, it says that his agent, Christina Kimball (a big Scientologist) said those things. There's even two interviews: one the reporter did himself shortly after the "traped in the Closet" episode aired (no source), and one that The A.V. Club did. That one is available.

Interview with Isaac Hayes, January 4th, 2006

AVC: Do you ever challenge Trey Parker and Matt Stone on what they're trying to say with South Park?

IH: Well, when I did "Chocolate Salty Balls," I asked them, "Are you sure you want to do this stuff, man?" But then I looked into the studio and saw the whole crew in there cracking up. I said, "****, they might have something." So I went on and did it, and I'm glad I did, because it was such a huge hit. In fact, when it was out in England during the Christmas holidays, I aced… who were those girls who were so hot then?

AVC: The Spice Girls?

IH: Exactly. I aced them for the number-one spot. [Laughs.]

AVC: There's some pretty harsh satire on South Park. They don't really care who they offend.

IH: But that's their thing! They're success was built on that cutting-edge stuff. I've had to defend them a lot of times. One time on BET Tonight I defended them because Tavis Smiley, the host on that show, was coming at me. It was a call-in show, too, so people were calling in. I told them not to take this stuff seriously. If you do, you'll get in trouble. Just enjoy it. Remember your high-school yearbook? You look at those pictures now, you laugh, right? That's what South Park is. You got to laugh at it. Because we cursed, but we just didn't dare let the principals, the teachers, or the preachers hear it. And we didn't turn out bad, okay? Just look at it that way. Also, usually there's some kind of moral message at the end for the kids, by the Chef.

AVC: They did just do an episode that made fun of your religion, Scientology. Did that bother you?

IH: Well, I talked to Matt and Trey about that. They didn't let me know until it was done. I said, "Guys, you have it all wrong. We're not like that. I know that's your thing, but get your information correct, because somebody might believe that ****, you know?" But I understand what they're doing. I told them to take a couple of Scientology courses, and understand what we do. [Laughs.]

That's all he talks about South Park in that Interview. It sure doesn't sound like a quitting material to me.

I had at one point found another article refuting the fox news article, but now I can't find it again.

This has been bugging the hell out of me. There's three possibilities in my mind.

1) Isaac Hayes actually quit the show. Whether stroke induced, or a personal preference, he's decided that he doesn't want to participate any more...even though, as the fox news artilcle said, he needs the income.

2) Isaac Hayes' publicist decided to quit for him, and Isaac Hayes can't do/say anything about it, either because of his stroke or pressure from the Church of Scientology.

3) It's actually a publicity stunt. Trey Parker, Matt Stone, and Isaac hayes all got together, and realized due to Isaac's condition he wouldn't be in shape to do the season. So, they orchestrate these events to boost ratings for the first season. According to the Associated Press, The Episode premired at it's highest ratings since 2002.

Well, now I've told someone. Maybe I can not worry about it for a while.
 

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Man, but when they killed off Chef, they killed off Chef. That couldn't have been a publicity stunt...

But I've been wrong before. I wonder how the rest of the season will play out.

--Harrm
 

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I'm not sure what to think.

You have to keep in mind that there is only ONE article saying that someone quit for Issac and it is a GOSSIP column on FOX NEWS.. so I wouldn't consider it concrete. And every news article saying this is quoting that one gossip/blog column.

MAtt and Trey never addressed this development so I'm guessing they've dismissed it or felt that regardless they wanted to cut chef off. And no news on confirmation on Chef's Stroke. There's a whole lot of stuff flying around with no evidence to back it up. The only ones who are actively putting anything in perspective is MAtt and Trey so I tend to believe their side of the story. I'll hold judgement until Isaac "gets better" or publicly announces what's going on.
 

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That's the biggest problem with this all: I can't find a single press release from either side stating anything, only AP news stories reporting on those press releases. Isaac Hayes' own website has no mention of this at all, with it's last entry on the press page dating from early november. Likewise, the fox news guy says his data comes from "his sources"...nothing more.

I dislike it when the wool is pulled over my eyes...I dislike even more not being able to find the one who did the pulling.
 

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Wool. Wool. Wool. Wool. Wool.


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Darth Chef will most likely come around again (in 'Jedi' fashion) in the next movie or at the end of the series. I'm sure that by 2009 or so, Hayes will have forgiven them, if that's the problem.

Relax, guy.
 

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MAtt and Trey never addressed this development so I'm guessing they've dismissed it or felt that regardless they wanted to cut chef off.

If you go to that youtube site where they have the Scientology episode, you'll find a link to a Late Night with David Letterman clip where he interviews Stone & Parker. In that interview they mention that they knew the episode might offend Hayes and he quit because of it.
 

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If you go to that youtube site where they have the Scientology episode, you'll find a link to a Late Night with David Letterman clip where he interviews Stone & Parker. In that interview they mention that they knew the episode might offend Hayes and he quit because of it.

Actually they've said a lot worse lol. "He's had no problem cashing checks when we were making fun of christianity".

I'm referring to the claim that chef didn't actually quit. It came out a few days before the episode aired yet they still went through with it. SP takes 2-3 days to make an episode (unusual even for animated TV shows) which is why their content is always so current. They had enough time to change or pull the episode or at least address that claim if it we're true. All I'm saying is It's suspicious that they wouldn't know themselves that Issac Hayes had a stroke and wouldn't come to the conclusion themselves that something fishy was going on.
 

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cracwhore said:
Wool. Wool. Wool. Wool. Wool.


That's a funny word. Try it out...

Wool.



Darth Chef will most likely come around again (in 'Jedi' fashion) in the next movie or at the end of the series. I'm sure that by 2009 or so, Hayes will have forgiven them, if that's the problem.

Relax, guy.

You dont know a thing about Scientology do you?

--Harrm
 

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Our courts have to deal with thier nonsense, as well as anyone unfortunate enough to get sued by them. Someone's paying for that, so yeah, there's reason to care.
 

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what i heard and whats floating around in p-town ohio is that chef quit because he didnt like the way they made joke to different religion and gays and just about everything else they joke about (which is f'n hilarious) and he said that they couldnt pay him enough to do another episode so apparently from what ive heard hes gone for good and never will return....:mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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gamergirl1337 said:
what i heard and whats floating around in p-town ohio is that chef quit because he didnt like the way they made joke to different religion and gays and just about everything else they joke about (which is f'n hilarious) and he said that they couldnt pay him enough to do another episode so apparently from what ive heard hes gone for good and never will return....:mad: :mad: :mad:

PUNCTUATION!

chuckus: Do you know where that quote is from? I'm just curious is all, and I can't seem to find anything resembling a source.
 

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It's mostly from the 'Middle School Cafeteria'. I heard William McCormick talking about it during sixth period. Apparently, the original source of the story is Chris Willis. He's a pretty cool guy, he usually doesn't lie.

More as it develops.
 

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Approx, I wish you would have asked earlier. ;P I'll try and dig up the article, I got to it from fark.

Oh and just and little Matt Stone and Trey Parker trivia. A friend of mine works here at Ubi soft as a level designer for the R6 series. At one point Ubi was in talks with South Park Studios to develop a game. The deal fell through due to creative differences (he down played it a lot so I'm guessing they stepped on M&Ts toes HARD but that's just speculation). Anyway, after the deal fell through for weeks they recieved faxes from them, their best titles spoofed with south park characters. E.g. Kenny with goggles and a wet suit with the title Sphincter Cell and other things like that. Basically they can be extremely vindictive.
 
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