HT vs DC and your system specs

[EckoScar]

I was wondering becuase I know everyone here does not have the same processor, the question is I was going to buy a new processor later on and the 2 choices where these *Intel Pentium 4 660 800MHz FSB LGA 775 EM64T Processor or a *Dual Core so the main question is in you guys's opinions which would be better for gaming purposes. (I know the Dual Core is Superior in multitasking) (keep in mind that I like to listen to music like *WinAmp while I'm playing my games) Cant wait to see what you say


And below are some specs of the New system I'm Building (most of the items are found on Newegg.com) and the system I'm currently running


My new PC (that I'm going to buy later)

Moniter *19in flat panel LCD
MotherBoard *ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe ATX Intel Motherboard
Processor *(which ever processor comes out be be the best here)
Case *Thermaltake Xaser III V1000A Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
Ram *OCZ Gold Series 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM (I'm getting 4 of them so 4gb of ram sweet)
SoundCard *Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS Sound Card
VideoCard *Dual Geforce 7800 GT SLI cards
KeyBoard *Logitech G15 2-Tone 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Keyboard
Power Supply *SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-ST65ZF constant 650W max power 710W SLI Certified Power Supply
Sound System *Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Speaker system
CPU Cooler *ZALMAN Fatal1ty FS-C77 120mm 2 Ball Red LED Light Cooling Fan
Drives *SONY Black IDE DVD Burner Model DW-Q30A BK (2 of these)
Case Fans *SILVERSTONE FM82 80mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan (4 of these)
Floppy *SONY Black Internal Floppy Drive Model MPF920 Black



My Current PC

Operating Sys *XP Professional SP2
Moniter *17in flat screen plug n play
MotherBoard *Albatron Mars intel PX915P4C/G4C Pro
Processor *Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz 800Mhz FBS 512mb cache socket 478 (northwood)
Case *Raidmax midtower case With Side Panel Window
Ram *2gb GeiL Dual-channel SDRAM
SoundCard *Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum
VideoCard *Geforce 6800 GT PCI-EX
KeyBoard *Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard
Mouse *Logitech MX1000 Cordless mouse (best mouse I ever had)
Power Supply *Antec NeoPower 480 watt powersupply
Sound System *Logitech Z-5300 560 watt max power 5.1 speaker system
Drives *Cd-RW/DVD-rom combo drive
Drives *SONY Black IDE DVD Burner


Whats the spec on you guys systems?

[Thanatos]

Mines an Advent Laptop:
3.20GhZ Pentium 4 with Hyper Threading
512MB RAM (Though some of it is being used on the Graphics Card, RAM can go upto 2GB)
60GB Hard Drive
15" Laptop Screen
ATI Radeon 9000 Onboard Graphics Set to 128MB (Can also be set to 32MB and 64MB, the higher it is the more RAM it uses as Graphics Memory 128MB is the maximum)
DVD/CD-RW

[EckoScar]

sounds like a pretty descent top there

[SaD]

Take a look under my signature.
There is a link to my PC´s .

[EckoScar]

wow nice machines SaD

[daloonie]

Hmm is there any reason to go specifically with Intel?

I have to say that Intel isn't doing any well against AMD's CPU's these years and are shown off at performance and prices, and even heat levels.

If it is gaming you're out for you are best off with AMD64 compared to Intels P4.

I could type so much about AMD vs. Intel right now but I won't I'll summarize it up for you.
AMD is the best CPU's these years. Best for gaming purposes and they keep quite alot more cool than Intel's newer P4 and Dual Core prosessors. Which means less noise = good.

My system:
AMD64 Athlon 3500+ 2.2GHz
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-D
Currently 2x512MB DDR PC3200 Crucial BallistiX, soon 2x1GB PC3200 OCZ Platinum Edition CAS 2.3.2.5
ATi Radeon X800XL HIS IceQII PCI-e
1xMaxtor DiamondMax 9+ 120GB ATA133
1xMaxtor DiamondMax 9+ 160GB ATA133
2xMaxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB SATA150
OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU
Samsung 710n 17" TFT
Logitech MX510 Mouse
Logitech Cordless Keyboard
Lian-Li PC-71 case
Altec Lansing 5100 5.1 SorroundSound system
LG 3504A DVD+-RW

Anyways the system you have now is perfectly good, why upgrade?

[CheapAlert]

athlon 950, gffx5200, 512mb pc133 ram, win2k pro, sblive...

[Kantham]

athlon 950,

Whahahahahat?

[EckoScar]

Hmm is there any reason to go specifically with Intel?

I have to say that Intel isn't doing any well against AMD's CPU's these years and are shown off at performance and prices, and even heat levels.

If it is gaming you're out for you are best off with AMD64 compared to Intels P4.

I could type so much about AMD vs. Intel right now but I won't I'll summarize it up for you.
AMD is the best CPU's these years. Best for gaming purposes and they keep quite alot more cool than Intel's newer P4 and Dual Core prosessors. Which means less noise = good.

My system:
AMD64 Athlon 3500+ 2.2GHz
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-D
Currently 2x512MB DDR PC3200 Crucial BallistiX, soon 2x1GB PC3200 OCZ Platinum Edition CAS 2.3.2.5
ATi Radeon X800XL HIS IceQII PCI-e
1xMaxtor DiamondMax 9+ 120GB ATA133
1xMaxtor DiamondMax 9+ 160GB ATA133
2xMaxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB SATA150
OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU
Samsung 710n 17" TFT
Logitech MX510 Mouse
Logitech Cordless Keyboard
Lian-Li PC-71 case
Altec Lansing 5100 5.1 SorroundSound system
LG 3504A DVD+-RW

Anyways the system you have now is perfectly good, why upgrade?


so would you say for gaming purposes AMD is better than intel

[Sahkolihaa]

Here's mine:

AMD 64 FX-55
DFI LANParty UT nForce3 Ultra-D Motherboard
4x 512MB (= 2GB) Kingston PC3200 RAM
ATI Radeon X850XT PE
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
Yamaha YMF DS-XG Sound Card
Seagate Barracuda 80GB SATA 150 HDD
Seagate Barracuda 40GB IDE-100 HDD
Tagan 480W Rev2 PSU
Lite-On DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive

[daloonie]

so would you say for gaming purposes AMD is better than intel

Yes. Intel is behind and has always been behind in gaming since Athlon XP. Also since AMD64 came out they were halting behind and their processors are not worth the extra price they take, compared to AMD.

So yes AMD is better.

[EckoScar]

which AMD is good and at a decent price. As you see at top I'm trying to configure a new system to game on.

[daloonie]

Hmm I'd say an AMD64 X2 3800+ or a single core AMD64 3700+.
The 3700+ is basicly a 3200+ with double cache(1MB L2 cache). And an excellent overclocker.
The 3800+ is dual core if you want that. And it's also the cheapest of all the X2 series but don't underestimate it it's a good processor that also should make good overclocks.

Two different price ranges and would both qualify as good gaming processors.

You need to remember that you will need to use DDR1 memory modules(DIMM 184) and a socket 939 motherboard.

[Kantham]

Hmm I'd say an AMD64 X2 3800+ or a single core AMD64 3700+.
The 3700+ is basicly a 3200+ with double cache(1MB L2 cache). And an excellent overclocker.


And someone told me that the AMD wheren't ment for overclocking, "that overclocking just make the system unstable".:rolleyes:
Looks like he will have to learn or change job, becuase he work in comps. It's not the first person who tell me that AMD are fully overclockable. I even have a San Diego core.

That's the procecor i recently got, and it solved my CPU bottle neck, i upgrated it from my 2200 which is really poor against the 6800 GPU.

[daloonie]

Yeah that rumor is from back in the days where T-Bird ruled :p
They were really hot.

Now a days Intels Prescott has the hottest temperatures and we run with them at school. It's with temp controlled fans on the CPU coolers and they run in BIOS with 60+ C all of them.
My AMD64 3500+ here runs 50C at full load constantly with my cpu cooler at minimum.

Also AMD not overclockable? The old 1700+ Socket A combined with nForce 2 it reached around 2.4GHz or something.
And the AMD64's with Venice and San Diego cores should overclock quite a bit. Haven't experienced alot with it yet with my Winchester CPU. Older core.

[CheapAlert]

And someone told me that the AMD wheren't ment for overclocking, "that overclocking just make the system unstable".:rolleyes:
That's a big fat duh for any processor or video card. ANY overclocking risks stability.

[daloonie]

That's true, but within limits overclocking can be stable. Millions and yet millions of people overclock their pc's with big success.
It might cause a lower lifetime but who will keep their pc for more than 2-3 years won't be overclocking.

[EckoScar]

Hmm I'd say an AMD64 X2 3800+ or a single core AMD64 3700+.
The 3700+ is basicly a 3200+ with double cache(1MB L2 cache). And an excellent overclocker.
The 3800+ is dual core if you want that. And it's also the cheapest of all the X2 series but don't underestimate it it's a good processor that also should make good overclocks.

Two different price ranges and would both qualify as good gaming processors.

You need to remember that you will need to use DDR1 memory modules(DIMM 184) and a socket 939 motherboard.

well what if i'm going to use DDR2 mem with an SLI motherboard they do go well dont they?

What is a good one to get where I wont have to upgrade in lets say about 2 years or so?