Problems with TeamSnakeEyes-pack

[MäxX]

Yesterday I got a mail with a question of someone starting a server with my TSE-packs installed.
When he does so he gets the following error message:


UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2005-11-23_16.22]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 1483 MHz with 511MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XT (8198)

Failed to load 'TSE-Delta': Can't find file 'TSE-Delta'

History: UObject::SafeLoadError <- UObject::GetPackageLinker <-
UGameEngine::BuildServerMasterMap <- ULevel::Listen <- Listen <-
UGameEngine::LoadMap <- LocalMapURL <- UGameEngine::Browse <- ClientTravel
<- UGameEngine::Tick <- Level Loading Docks ][ <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop <-
FMallocWindows::Free <- FMallocWindows::Realloc <- 10910191 0 FArray <-
FArray::Realloc <- 0*2 <- FMallocWindows::Free


I told him to check the serverpackage-entries in the UT2004.ini but that didn`t work.

Now I`ve suggested to reinstall the pack and if that doesn`t work delete the TSE-Delta.upl and the serverpackage-entry to see if the whole pack causes that error.

Has anyone other clues?.....I don`t :(

EDIT:
I don`t have the possibility to test if they work on a server

[daloonie]

Well it somehow can't find the file he's supposed to use.

This line gives it away: "Failed to load 'TSE-Delta': Can't find file 'TSE-Delta'"
He could be putting the files in the wrong folders. Especially if he has AngelMappers newest map which has a couple of custom folders to contain multiple versions of textures/static meshes/map files etc.

If it is a skin he used as char before deleting it it can be changed in User.ini from Character=Something to Gorge or somthing similar as long the character is in the game.
Don't know if it's a problem it should turn back to default as soon as the files are missing?

[UTGirl]

Maybe this message appears when UT is started (no matter if server or not)? Do the skins work in offline play for him?

[Leonardo]

And yes its me I have arrived.....and Yes I had to remove the server entries before I can run server it seems. did it with all TSE entries. Removed each one at a time and the same error came up. Is it a problem with the way it was packed before the latest patch? Oh and Rex? I made sure I took each file extention and made sure each one was placed in its appropriate folder spot.

[SaD]

Welcome Leonardo :) .

[klasnic]

Tell me what the serverpackage entries are and I might be able to help :)

(to do with the pack, nothing else)

[MäxX]

Welcome to the board!

Can please someone else try to start a server with one of the packs, to see if the error occurs?

Hm, I wanted to add a special combo of egypt and merc animations for that pack and klasnic wrote me a TSE.u file containing that info.

The u-file is accidently included in the pack but NOT USED, I planned to use it for bonus "Teamcolor Deathmatch Only"-Bots but abandoned it due the massive amount chars. I forgot to delete the file, maybe this causes the probs (I remember custom species always making probs on servers).

Maybe termination of that file helps?

[UTGirl]

I`ve splitted that stuff in 4 parts, due I have a heart for our poor 56k users :)
New is a installer to make things even more comfortable. Only one con, there are no serverpackage-entries made automatically. (I`ve also forgot to mention that in the readme, sorry) so for use on a server, add the following lines to the UT2004.ini file found in the System directory of Unreal Tournament 2004, under the section
[Engine.GameEngine]:
ServerPackages=TSE-Alpha
ServerPackages=TSE-Bravo
ServerPackages=TSE-Charlie
ServerPackages=TSE-Delta
ServerPackages=TSE_Cobra


OMG, MäxX what are you doing?
Forget polls - meanwhile that`s called to pull a MäxX...
Forget to mention important info
Forget to delete certain files
Forget to send me the promised Indy500 car setups
:p

[klasnic]

Maybe termination of that file helps?

No, MäxX if it's unused it's not that ;)

Thanks for the info, UTGirl. I'll check out the packs later on once I've time and try host a server with them but for now, where's the mention of the mod files? Each character has to have it's own mod file.

So, for example if there's a character called UTGirl in TSE_Delta it would read;

serverpackages=UTGirlMod
serverpackages=TSE_Delta (if that's what the texture file is called)

Each character in the pack would have it's own mod file and when it's used on the server that particular character in the pack would be sent to clients :)

Hope that helps 'til I've time to check it out :tup:

[EDIT] Now we can have a UTGirl on every machine :lol:

[MäxX]

Now it starts being intresting!

In each pack are 4 chars, but I thought there just must be the utx or upl file registered (they both have the same name)
I didn`t make mod-files for every char.

EDIT:
UTGirl deserved her very own utx-file :p alltough she is a little bit cheeky sometimes :lol:

EDIT2:
OK, let`s take this for example:

TSE-Delta contains of 4 chars.
Neos, Desertrain, Fury and Cobra

So the proper entry in the ini would read:

serverpackages=TSE-Delta
serverpackages=NeosMod
serverpackages=DesertrainMod
serverpackages=FuryMod
serverpackages=CobraMod

Must we create the mod-files? OMG, this is complicated. Great we have some gurus gere :2thumb:

EDIT3:
If that`s the solution we should add the info and maybe files to the review :p

[klasnic]

Did you make up a mod file for each pack, MäxX?

The .upl really has nothing to do with it. That just stores info on the local machine about the character. [EDIT] The mod file is what pushes the character from the server.

I saw a mod file for one of my packs on gameservers (which I didn't make up) called xlmod.u yet when I made the official ones I had three separate ones for each character in the pack. I guess it's possible to have one mod file for the entire pack but I'd have to check out the mod file I mentioned to see how it's written :)

[MäxX]

.... I guess it's possible to have one mod file for the entire pack but I'd have to check out the mod file I mentioned to see how it's written :)
One for each pack and one for UTGirl (2 skins in total) would be great :2thumb:

I don`t have any clues to write such a file :(

[klasnic]

Oh :lol: I wasn't volunteering but I'll do it hehe.

I'll upload them here (as an attachment) in a couple of hours as I'm pretty busy at the mo :)

[EDIT] tbh I still haven't had time to check out many of the skins I've downloaded for nearly three months now so even yours was still on my "to view" list lol. I'll check them out now while I'm at it :D

[UTGirl]

Klasnic http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/missrockriot/brentdance.gif

I`m just honest MäxX ;)

I`ll include the files also in the review and add a link to this thread

[klasnic]

:lol:

I can post them in the review thread if you want. That'll be handier :D

[UTGirl]

:lol:

I can post them in the review thread if you want. That'll be handier :D
Ok, feel free edit my review :)

[klasnic]

It's handy being a mod so I can do that :lol: :tup:

I'll take a look at the packs now and make the mod files then get them uploaded asap :)

[UTGirl]

your knowledge is really impressive :)

I have enough work with editing my own posts (bad grammar, bad syntax, bad contents....) :lol:

[MäxX]

That`s truly a great service! I really appreciate that! :):tup:

[klasnic]

Oops I ran into a problem already. I installed SteffiSpecial but it uses a voice pack I've not got installed. The voice pack will also need to be pushed from the server but I've never done that, so don't know how :(

Any ideas? Also there seems to be a problem with the bio - Does it work in game?

[EDIT #1] Just checked the .upl and the text= line is wrong so it doesn't use the .int file. The skin uses as voice pack called UTFemVoiceTwo2K4VP21 which I haven't got. Is there any info with that about pushing it from a server?

[EDIT #2] zomg I just noticed the file sizes of the TSE textures. Even compressed, if you push them from a server anyone connecting would have to download a 15MB+ file. I tend to disconnect from a server when it's anything over 4MB. Should I still go ahead and do this? I can't see many people hanging around to connect while big files like that are being downloaded :(

[MäxX]

You`re right bio shouldn`t work, it has an "old" name I gave her the pack before adding her to TSE :|

Maybe with serverpackages=UTFemVoiceTwo2K4VP21?
The voicepack (UT Classic VP by Lopar (http://www.nationnarrownet.com/3xnvoice.html)) contains of 2 files:
UTFemVoiceTwo2K4VP21.int
UTFemVoiceTwo2K4VP21.u

This is truly a large amount of data :(

[klasnic]

serverpackages=UTFemVoiceTwo2K4VP21

That sounds right, MäxX. I'm only wondering do I still go ahead and make the mod files given the size of the download (I'm thinking of people with modems). I'd just disconnect from the server and I've high speed internet :)

If you still want me to make the files I will :)

[EDIT] The one for UTGirl's won't be a problem as it's not too big.

[MäxX]

I`d make the files just to make things work and perfect. If I know how I`d make the files :( Would be great if you still make them :tup:

Maybe there should be warnings on the servers like
We are using Skinpacks by MäxX here, beware 56k user!

[klasnic]

Maybe there should be warnings on the servers like
We are using Skinpacks by MäxX here, beware 56k user!

:clap: :lol:

Okay I'll make them now hehe :tup:

[UTGirl]

OMG :lol:

Stefanie is a must have for every one :D

Maybe you should write a tutorial with all the things skinners should be paying attention when it comes to server playing :tup:

[klasnic]

I'll try to have them done and uploaded by 10:30 GMT haha :D

[MäxX]

This is great :) thx again

[klasnic]

Added the Stefanie/UTGirl mod files zip to that review. Will post serverpackage entries later.

Onto the four packs now :tup:

[klasnic]

Added mod files for all four packs. 5 mins late :lol:

Will write out the server package entries later. One I couldn't do was Fury in TSE_Delta as she can't be pushed because she has a ` or something in her name :)

Will post here later once they're all done :tup:

[MäxX]

Added mod files for all four packs. 5 mins late :lol:

Will write out the server package entries later. One I couldn't do was Fury in TSE_Delta as she can't be pushed because she has a ` or something in her name :)

Will post here later once they're all done :tup:
great :2thumb:

[klasnic]

All done. UTGirl might want to clean up the other info (about server entries) in the reviews. Added all the info necessary.

You should really put a disclaimer that even if just one character is being pushed from the server it'll be a really big download as it'll send the whole texture file, plus all the voice packs (afaik).

They really need to be compressed and put on redirect (server admins will know what that is).

Anyone using the skins online with the voicepacks won't connect to servers using SafeGame and will get warnings with AntiTCC "person loaded an unknown class"

People should really know all that before pushing them. Fury can't be pushed because of her name. Finally Elektra might conflict with another character of that name and might not even work as a result. Also if mod files for the other Elektra are on redirect the mod file for this might overwrite it and cause problems for that author or anyone pushing the other character.

That's just about all the info you need. Hope it works out okay :2thumb:

[MäxX]

This is truly some vital information :tup: I wish I had know that all before

[UTGirl]

I`m on it, Blue Leader ;)

[klasnic]

I`m on it, Blue Leader ;)

:lol: I'm on the red team. Blue makes me confused :lol:

One day on blue I successfully destroyed one of my own nodes in ONS during FragBU. Unfortunately someone was watching me doing it and saying WTF?

I've refused to change to blue ever since hehe :D

[UTGirl]

:lol: Ok, I think that`s the prob when you`re always playing on one certain team. I had the same probs in UT (years ago), I killed the blue members until I thought there must be something wrong (the "- frags" told me....) from that day I keep on switching :lol:

btw, reviews fixed, I`ve also included a working upl for the bio for Stefanie. thx again klasnic, you`re the best

....and Mäxx....I`m always enjoying additional work :stick:

[klasnic]

:tup:

And as for Mäxx I agree :catfight: :lol:

[UTGirl]

But today we all have learned some things :lol:

I`d would really add this info in a tutorial to avoid such probs in the future :tup:

[klasnic]

Sure, I'll write one up once I've finished my pack as I'll have all the time in the world then *Klasnic gets struck by lightning* :D

[UTGirl]

as mentioned before it`s truly a pitty you stop skinning for UT2004 :(

I`m looking forward for some great UT2007 works by you :D:tup:

[klasnic]

I'll make great stuff for 2k7, I just don't know what it'll be yet :D

Keep an eye out for vehicles, models, maps or even Unreal Tournament 2007 Klasnic Edition muhahhaaa!

[MäxX]

UT2007: Envy (?) should simply be called
Klasnic Tournament: Revolution

that would make all name discussions useless ;)

[Leonardo]

Ok after reviewing everything I now have taken two extra strength excedrine..... OI ! So basically the install pack needed to be rebuilt from scratch?

[MäxX]

Ok after reviewing everything I now have taken two extra strength excedrine..... OI ! So basically the install pack needed to be rebuilt from scratch?
There must be some additional files copied to the system-folder -> Just take a look at UTGirl`s review (http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=166213). There all vital serverpackage-entries and files attached. Then it should work :)

[Leonardo]

UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2005-11-23_16.22]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 1486 MHz with 511MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XT (8198)

Failed to load 'ElektraMod': Can't find file 'ElektraMod'

History: UObject::SafeLoadError <- UObject::GetPackageLinker <- UGameEngine::BuildServerMasterMap <- ULevel::Listen <- Listen <- UGameEngine::LoadMap <- LocalMapURL <- UGameEngine::Browse <- ClientTravel <- UGameEngine::Tick <- Level Loading Docks ][ <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop <- FMallocWindows::Free <- FMallocWindows::Realloc <- 10910191 0 FArray <- FArray::Realloc <- 0*2 <- FMallocWindows::Free

:eek: WHY WHY WHY!*proceeds to beat head upon his monitor* :eek: :( :mad: :o ITS not FAIR!!

[SaD]

....
Failed to load 'ElektraMod': Can't find file 'ElektraMod'
....


This has nothing to do with MäxX TSE-Packs . It seems you have a problem with the Elektra-model (http://skincity.beyondunreal.com/?section=models&action=show_infos&id=465) .

[klasnic]

There's a character in one of MäxX' TSE packs called Elektra, SaD. Do you have the ElektraMod.u file in UT2004\System, Leonardo? (It's in the TSE_Alpha.zip) posted at the end of the review (link above in MäxX' post). Copy the contents of each zip to UT2004\System and put the serverpackage entries exactly as they're written there. Post again if you have further trouble once that's done :)

[SaD]

There's a character in one of MäxX' TSE packs called Elektra, SaD...

My bad . Thanx for clearing it Klasnic :) .

[]|M|[_-Seven-_]]

U need to add this line in UT2004.ini file, under

[Engine.GameEngine]

last line add this

ServerPackages=ElektraMod

hope that clears the error for ya?.. :-)

Ps; dont forget to save and exit.

[Leonardo]

You know? I had to reinstall and restore most of my UT2k4 installs. Save for team snake and a few maps and models. :( I need a drink.....

[MäxX]

You know? I had to reinstall and restore most of my UT2k4 installs. Save for team snake and a few maps and models. :( I need a drink.....
that are bad news :( here`s the drink ;)
http://bigbluesky.typepad.com/let_there_be_light/images/drink.jpg