UNFE|Jason said:
I was wondering when you would turn up.
Does UT2004 contain the bots we need, please be sure to show me where in UED actors are to allow the bots to place sentrys, conc jumping, rocket jumping and all the other little things that are needed, perhaps you could tell me where the AI routines are for each class to act and do his or her own within the mod.
There are classes that tell the bots to use the translocator to get to a certain location. AFAIK there were/used to be classes for the hammer-jump in UT-series as well, altough they might have refined it.
The conc- and rocket-jump should be simple extensions of those features.
If your team really needs more info then that they they should go back to school and start learning Unrealscript and the entire api for real this time.
The healing-skill would be an extension from the link-gun's secondary fire ... bots seem to understand how to heal vehicles.
Building sentries would be an extension from the node-building-routines in ONS. Simply place "invisible" nodes at those places you want them to build sentries and you're at least half way to bot-heaven.
In short there are lots of places to re-use existing code *provided* you know what OOP is and how UT's codebase is designed. Ask the Jailbreak-team if you need any help because they're practically the only mod-team that managed to understand how new gametypes and bot-code can be added to UT without breaking basic rules.
Not having bot-support means that all your mappers are going to have to path each and every map they've ever made once you decide that bot-support is functional. Most mappers would rather build new stuff instead.
There's also the problem that maps that weren't designed with bots in mind are going to cause problems as soon as bot-support is added.
Please also point out where I said that game's do not benefit from having bot's. What I was saying was that Team fortress is an online mult player game, so this is where we wanted to place our efforts first.
Without bot-support you need a gigantic community to get people playing at all.
You seem to think you can get a cloned version of an outdated game up and running with just the community of 'fans'.
Infact we have big plans for bot support, we just want the time to work extensively on this.
Considering you're merely releasing a BETA-version I doubt you're going to take the time required to finish bot-support at all.
how many times have we got to tell people why UNFE was made, what part dont you understand?.
Until you show something of this "evolution"-part people will assume that it's just another team fortress clone. So maybe you should start showing people what makes your mod different from the hundreds that have gone before ?
We have built a clean sheet version of Team fortress, not exactley; some things are different. However we have always said that we didnt want to throw in anything into the mod that people didnt want or recognise from all versions of Team Fortress, we wanted people to tell us after they played Beta 1 how we could improve the Team fortress concept or what we could add to make the mod more enjoyable to the whole community.
There's one thing you can count on :
- people won't tell you how to improve stuff because they don't know what they want until after they get it
