Veterans day Version 2

[NeoNite]

Please don't crap on this one, thank you.

I'd like to focus this thread on both world wars.

There are some interesting articles I'd like to link to.

First one is about the oldest british veteran:

Oldest veteran salutes WWI fallen (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/4426096.stm)

Britain's oldest war veteran said he would "like to join up again" after attending memorial services in France on Armistice Day.
Henry Allingham, 109, from Eastbourne in East Sussex, was an aircraft engineer in World War I and is the last founder member of the Royal Air Force.



109 years old. The things this man must've seen =) I'll never reach that age, I know. I simply know. Sure, he sits in a wheelchair but it doesn't look like he's entered a stage of being a plant/mummy/whatever yet.. far from it, I suppose. 109 years old...

As Azura said in the previous thread, this day is about armistice.
Here's a link to the remembrance of D-day, and the end of one of the most horrible wars of the 20th century.



thousands of war veterans gathered in France this weekend to mark 60 years since the D-Day invasion of Nazi-occupied Europe.
Queen Elizabeth II travelled to Normandy along with 16 other leaders including, for the first time, a Russian and German head of state.

As they met in Arromanches for the main international ceremony, a warship fired a 21-gun salute.

About 250,000 died in the 80-day battle for Normandy after 6 June 1944.



[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3758093.stm]The battle for Normandy (]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/world/2004/d-day/default.stm[/url)

Like I've said in the previous thread, may there sacrifice never be forgotten (all allied troops).

And please, don't crap on this thread ^_^

[Rukee]

so veteran's day should only be limited to WW1 and WW2 personal?

[tool]

so veteran's day should only be limited to WW1 and WW2 personal?

I thought it was for all wars period? But WWI and WWII get focused on the most because we still have people from that generation alive.

Anyways, in before all the hippy faggots crap on this thread too.

[Rukee]

it`s for every veteran who served regardless of when it was.
Even those serving right now!


*edit* well, as soon as they get out of the service they`ll be a veteran. ;)

[W0RF]

I had a grandfather in WW2 and one in Korea. My father lost a cousin in Viet Nam; I share his namesake (not the last name, thank God; it was Ort). Something a little chilling and sobering about seeing your name on The Wall. I had friends who served in each of the Gulf Wars and in Afghanistan. To them, and to the BuFfers like LS and Rukee and others who have been there and back again, I repeat, thank you for your service to our country.

[tool]

My brothers wife is in Afghanistan right now, she serves in the Air Force. I'll have to remember to send her off a e-mail thanking her.

[BillyBadAss]

Those that are crapping are getting it wrong. The soldiers are not the ones that decided to go there. They took this job for one reason or another, and they are just following instructions. It's our ****bag government that sends them in to plunder oil etc. Unfortunately there is a need for a military, and unfortunately our president uses it for his hidden agenda rather than the threat of terrorists. Granted some of the soldiers are morons and misrepresent the U.S. by doing the stupid **** they do like a throwing a Koran in a **** bucket or burning bodies of muslims to **** with the insurgence. These are not the people that should be honored, but we should not forget the ones that are actually doing their job how they are suppose to do it.

[W0RF]

Well, at least you didn't try to turn the thread in a political direction rather than honoring servicemembers.

[NeoNite]

so veteran's day should only be limited to WW1 and WW2 personal?

Course not. I just like putting the emphasis, this time, on both World wars.


Anyways, in before all the hippy faggots crap on this thread too.

FFS NO :mad: Just for once, don't crap..
Doesn't mean I'm referring to you, Tool. I just hope it doesn't go downhill, again.

[Sam_The_Man]

Hey Neonite, when people have gotten bored of expressing their heartfelt gratitude for those who died for their freedom on the Internet and the thread starts to drop off the front page, can we use this thread for a political discussion then?

Don't forget kids, recycle your old threads.

[Cap'n Beeb]

I thought it was a no-no to reproduce locked threads?

[tool]

I thought it was a no-no to reproduce locked threads?

Thats only if the thread was crap to begin with. Its not neonites fault a bunch of "omfg big brother is double plus ungood" faggots decided to crap on it.

[Cap'n Beeb]

Ah, got it.

In before crappage. Also, AMERICA FÜCK YEAH

[BuzWeaver]

Because it is Veterans Day and a time when we as Americans can recognize our military accomplishments I’m not surprised at the remarks some foreigners or those on the left would make. This only serves to illustrate their misunderstanding of what freedom is.

Freedom is not free; freedom comes with a responsibility and accountability for your actions. Our constitution grants us our rights in that we as citizens should use our rights with responsibility, accountability and respecting the rights of others. No one person’s rights or pursuit of happiness should interfere with or supersede another persons rights, no matter what side of the fence, religion or ideology you profess to believe.

The United States is a great nation, it’s a proud nation, and we have a lot to be proud of. There isn’t any reason what so ever that we as Americans can’t take a moment or even have the ability to express our uniqueness. We seem to be losing more of our identity because of the misinterpretations, misperceptions, exaggerations and general imprudence that is generated by groups, organizations or foreigners who chose to demonize our country or give an impression that only denotes their own inadequacies.

I’m proud to be an American, if that’s a problem other people have then that’s a problem they have to deal with. I’m proud that our service men and women continue to perform their duties under the instruction of the President of The United States without any doubt or misunderstanding of what our nation is about.

[DeeperShade]

Don't make posts like that Buz. Otherwise you're going to get this thread locked because people like myself won't be able to resist ripping your idealism apart.

Anyway, thank you to all those who fought and died in the name of peace (there, that excludes most the recent wars).

[Sam_The_Man]

Don't make posts like that Buz. Otherwise you're going to get this thread locked because people like myself won't be able to resist ripping your idealism apart.

I see no need for that. Basically, what BuzWeaver is saying is that we can be free, it's just the only way to be free is that there has to be some stuff we're not allowed to do, and some stuff that we have to do even if we don't want to. I think we can all agree with that.

[W0RF]

... and spend just one day, in one thread, being thankful to people who are voluntarily picking up a gun and doing this crap so that the rest of us don't have to. Just one day of honor and respect. And even if you don't pay that respect here, if you know somebody IRL, take two seconds out of your day and express some appreciation.

Furreners, thank you for your indulgence. I'm not sure what equivalent days you have to honor your soldiers but let us know when you do.

[BobCobb]

FRRREEEEEEDDDDDOMMM COSTS A $1.85!

AMERICA FǛCK YEAH!

Anyways, I had a great grandfather in WW1, got gassed with mustard gas. I had 2 grandfathers in WW2. One fought the Japanese in Alaska, then the Italians and Germans in Italy. The other played clarinet that was broadcast all over the pacific. I had two uncles in Vietnan. One flew, one walked.

Thankyou to all the veterans that have kept tyrrany in check, and thankyou to all the veterans that have died in unnecessary wars.

[Cap'n Beeb]

Freedom doesn't cost $1.85, it costs a buck 'o five.

Also, I think Nov. 11 is a world wide remembrance day.

[BobCobb]

Freedom doesn't cost $1.85, it costs a buck 'o five.


Oh man, I failed. I failed.

May Jebus forgive me for my sins. :(

[Cap'n Beeb]

Jesus and/or Jebus doesn't care about you.

But I do.

[BobCobb]

Jebus is what I call the dead hobo I walled up in my house and now worship.

I care about you too.

[BuzWeaver]

Don't make posts like that Buz. Otherwise you're going to get this thread locked because people like myself won't be able to resist ripping your idealism apart.

Anyway, thank you to all those who fought and died in the name of peace (there, that excludes most the recent wars).

I hear all sorts of things everyday, but its up to me to decide how I want to react and not allow myself to lose objective or emotional continuity.

[Cap'n Beeb]

Remember kids, this internet bidness is pretty god damn serious.

[TossMonkey]

A lot of my family have served for the armed forces and I'm proud of them, I'd join up too but I wouldn't pass the medical (got serious hearing impairments now and bad asthma). Perhaps the cause may not always be just, but it takes a lot of courage to do the things these people do and I can respect that.

[NeoNite]

Both my grandfathers served in WWII. First one: I vaguely remember him, he died when I was years old.
He became a pow, I'm very glad they didn't kill him though. From what my family told me, he was a very nice person.

My other grandfather, who's also passed away, served as a luitenant. That's all I know :hmm:
Born in 1904, experienced the first World war as a young teenager...

[JaFO]

Freedom doesn't cost $1.85, it costs a buck 'o five.

Also, I think Nov. 11 is a world wide remembrance day.
Nope it isn't.

It's Saint Martens' day and it also marks the beginning of the new Carnival-season.
4-5 is the day to remember the victims of war and those who fought and fight for freedom instead of oil or the mistaken believe that anything except democracy (however poorly implemented) is wrong ...

[Freon]

Also, I think Nov. 11 is a world wide remembrance day.
Of course it is, that's why I thought the first thread by BuzWeaver was trollish.
But he doesn't seem to realise there are other coutries outside of the USA.
For instance here in France, Nov. 11 is to celebrate the end of WWI and the 1.5 million french soldier killed :hmm:

The "USA RULLZ DUUUUURRRHHH" part was really out of place :shake:

[W0RF]

Well, there seem to be differences of opinion whether Veteran's Day is interntionally recognized. Buz was addressing it as an American observance, as I was. If it is celebrated in other countries also, hey, great, I'm happy for you. Thank you for the service to your own various countries of origin. But I don't think it's fair to categorize Buz's comments as being dismissive of other countries, especially when people can't even seem to agree on whether or not other countries even honor their soldiers on the same day we do.

[DeeperShade]

It shouldn't come as such a shock. America's always had a problem getting the date of events correct (9/11) :p

[W0RF]

It shouldn't come as such a shock. America's always had a problem getting the date of events correct (9/11) :p
Yeah, well our football is better than your football, so there! :p

[Cap'n Beeb]

Football is for chumps, billiards for life 8)

[Sam_The_Man]

It shouldn't come as such a shock. America's always had a problem getting the date of events correct (9/11) :p

Why do you think we chose 11/11?

[tool]

Why do you think we chose 11/11?

damn dude, I still get that date wrong. :hmm: