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Logan6
10th Nov 2005, 03:14 PM
From different articles, it appears that Apples new chipset will be an intel chipset and people are speculating that you will be able to run both OS X and Windows on an Apple Computer.:eek: Also, it has been reported that sales of Apple Computers doubled over the year because of the iPod.

So I wonder if you will be able to run windows software on OS X natively?

geogob
10th Nov 2005, 03:29 PM
From different articles, it appears that Apples new chipset will be an intel chipset and people are speculating that you will be able to run both OS X and Windows on an Apple Computer. Also, it has been reported that sales of Apple Computers doubled over the year because of the iPod.

WTLW.


So I wonder if you will be able to run windows software on OS X natively?

Probably not. Or perhaps with some fancy thing like Wine. But you won't be able to run windows programs on OS X more than you can on Linux.

The two systems don't use the same architecture, memory management, libraries, etc.

cracwhore
10th Nov 2005, 05:57 PM
You really enjoy reporting old news, don't you?

ravens_hawk
10th Nov 2005, 11:57 PM
Aside from the WTLW points, why would I want to run Windows software on a MAC? Now that they use the same parts (ie memory cpu graphics card) the only thing making a MAC a MAC (aside from the fancy box and high price) is the software... So WTF?

Logan6
11th Nov 2005, 02:38 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about that too. Since you can now ( I have yet to try it ) run OS X on a PC, I guess you really don't need a mac. Other than, as you point out, wanting to pay a lot of money for a mac. Though they do have some nice epuipment.

EDIT: Actually, maybe we can run MAC equipment on pcs now? This is getting strange.

So, PC, Mac monitor and speakers, pc drives? :P

I don't know.

So, I guess if you download OS X for the PC, you can dual boot it with Windows XP, and have the best of both worlds. Except you'll be missing some of the nice apple equipment.

Have to polish up my boot magic prog.

geogob
11th Nov 2005, 02:44 PM
Mixing up everything is fun.

sublime
12th Nov 2005, 03:40 PM
Logan, you're an idiot who obviously has no clue how operating systems work or maybe even what they actually are. You seem incapable of even using google, so I think even using a Mac (Notice, please, that it's not an acronym, so capitalising the abbreviation just makes you look even more like some kid that ate a steady diet of paint chips as an infant than normal) operating system might be beyond your skill set.

Also, monitors have been standards based for ages. You could use PC monitors on Apple computers and vice versa, either with, or without adapter, depending on the time period, for years now. Speakers? Surely you don't think there are some magical pixie-dusted Apple speakers with a plug made of pure reality distortion that only fits into a port shaped like a vagina, do you?

Now, please go drop an AK-47 with and without a drum off of a large tower and tell us how fast they fall so you can both learn something and repost news from 400-odd years ago to maintain your proper level of insanity and asininity.

Kitty.cat
12th Nov 2005, 03:45 PM
There's something called Virtual PC that's ok. It's not great, but it's ok. It's like having a PC a couple years older than your Apple.

My theory for this Windows on Mac thing is that it'll be the same idea as "Classic" mode running in OS X. Since that already works. For those of you unfamiliar with the idea, it is essentially an operating system running inside your operating system. They dropped booting OS 9 completely and now create a virtual OS 9 for you to run your classic apps so that you don't have to go out and buy an old Apple IIfx for all your classic shtuff.

TheShiningWizard
12th Nov 2005, 04:51 PM
"Mr. Sublime is very cross."

http://home.comcast.net/%7Efeeltheuniversexxx/images/Flibble.jpg

cracwhore
12th Nov 2005, 04:55 PM
Logan, you're an idiot...

...who obviously has no clue how operating systems work or maybe even what they actually are. You seem incapable of even using google, so I think even using a Mac (Notice, please, that it's not an acronym, so capitalising the abbreviation just makes you look even more like some kid that ate a steady diet of paint chips as an infant than normal) operating system might be beyond your skill set.

Also, monitors have been standards based for ages. You could use PC monitors on Apple computers and vice versa, either with, or without adapter, depending on the time period, for years now. Speakers? Surely you don't think there are some magical pixie-dusted Apple speakers with a plug made of pure reality distortion that only fits into a port shaped like a vagina, do you?

Now, please go drop an AK-47 with and without a drum off of a large tower and tell us how fast they fall so you can both learn something and repost news from 400-odd years ago to maintain your proper level of insanity and asininity.

Edited for time constraint.


Also, welcome back.

As you can see - things aren't any better.

Pipe_Dream
12th Nov 2005, 05:32 PM
mac users

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8372/vmi23tp.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vmi23tp.jpg)

geogob
12th Nov 2005, 05:38 PM
Village people are Mac users?

cracwhore
12th Nov 2005, 06:17 PM
Pipe_Dream and his Motocross boyfriend:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8372/vmi23tp.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vmi23tp.jpg)

Pipe_Dream
12th Nov 2005, 07:02 PM
Pipe_Dream and his Motocross boyfriend:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8372/vmi23tp.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vmi23tp.jpg)


Hey! That's not fair :lock:

Logan6
12th Nov 2005, 07:10 PM
...and the usual crap. :lol:

p.s. Sub, you and Crack should get a room.

Pipe_Dream
12th Nov 2005, 08:07 PM
Crac and PBGay


http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9598/gaynerds8xy.th.jpg (http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaynerds8xy.jpg)

Edit: I mean PBJ

cracwhore
12th Nov 2005, 09:09 PM
You know what's hilarious - aside from the fact that you're thirty-seven?

That fact that you went and found such gay images.

Makes you wonder - don't it?

-Snakebite-
12th Nov 2005, 09:53 PM
I find in more amusing that you assume he needed deviate from his usual routine to find them.

Pipe_Dream
12th Nov 2005, 10:29 PM
OOOOPS!! Did I say Crac and PBGay?
I really meant
Crac and Snakebite

Pipe_Dream
12th Nov 2005, 10:41 PM
What's really hilarious is that I'm getting ready to go out and then retire the evening with some super hot snatchel. The sad part is that you're still gonna be here, jerking it to those pics. :lol:

Logan6
12th Nov 2005, 10:42 PM
lol, the last few players left ditch inf and go for the more direct approach :eek:

Kitty.cat
12th Nov 2005, 10:54 PM
What's big, and gray, with tusks and long nose!

It's irrelevant!

ravens_hawk
14th Nov 2005, 12:05 AM
Kitty those are pink.

And sublime, MAC is an acronym for Most Applications
Crash, (If Not, The Operating System Hangs.)

Kitty.cat
14th Nov 2005, 02:18 AM
MAC is an acronym for Most Applications
Crash, (If Not, The Operating System Hangs.)

Ever since my sunflower iMac (the dome one with the flat screen popping out of it) I've only seen a Mac freeze (or hang up) once. So it's been how many years now? It's a UNIX based OS, it doesn't hang.

Regarding applications crashing, it only crashes with poorly written software. Coincidentally, the only applications I see crashing regularly are non-Apple apps. I rarely if ever see standard Apple written programs crash. I can't actually name a single time one ever has, but I'd say maybe one or two has at some point or another.

spm1138
16th Nov 2005, 02:55 PM
I think my NeXT machine used to crash about as often as my Alienware does now.

geogob
16th Nov 2005, 02:59 PM
Is that really pertinent?

spm1138
16th Nov 2005, 05:24 PM
It was a UNIX based OS; it used to hang (occasionally).

And y'know, since OS X is vaguelly similar to OpenStep... well, I'm not going to be expecting any Mac to be "crash-proof".

geogob
16th Nov 2005, 06:23 PM
OS X is a not only generations ahead of NeXT and OpenStep, but a totally different fork. This comparison is totally irrelevent (IMO).

TheShiningWizard
16th Nov 2005, 06:31 PM
I'm just going to say that I've heard "EEP?" a lot more often than I've heard "DUNT!" over the years.

geogob
16th Nov 2005, 07:34 PM
Plait-il?

TheShiningWizard
16th Nov 2005, 08:01 PM
The former being the classic Mac error sound, and the latter being Windows'.

cracwhore
16th Nov 2005, 11:15 PM
Of course, comparing System 7 to Windows NT - probably not the most fair comparison you could come up with.

geogob
16th Nov 2005, 11:19 PM
ah ok, now i understand the EEP and DUNT thing :P

Yeah well, when my PC bugs, usually I just have the last sound i heared in game in a 0.4 second loop while looking a nice blue screen telling me the ATI driver crashed again for some obscure reason*.

*This reason is often refered to as "BF2" or one of its subscequent patch.

cracwhore
16th Nov 2005, 11:26 PM
Which is why I refuse to ever play that terrible game.

Just as I had expected - every EA game I've had installed onto my PC has hardcrashed my system (after a freshly formatted drive as well).

I'll never understand why people continue to support that terrible company.