I see a problem in the community...

Swanky · Jun 26, 2005

If this is the wrong board, move it to the right one.
http://forums.unrealplayground.com/showthread.php?p=401331#post401331
It goes to everyone, every single gamer and mapper.

Bot_40 · Jun 26, 2005

hmmm, doesn't go for me, I totally don't care. There are loads of different people in the community, there will always be people that want to play andaction style maps, sit and hold down fire while moving round randomly and getting kills and so on. For me that is nothing to do with what ut is about and I'm not interested in what these people have to say about my maps. If they give my map a 0 because it didn't have 1000 redeemers or whatever sick requirement they have then I just ignore it. Joke's on them for wasting their time downloading a map which they blatently weren't going to enjoy in the first place

Balton · Jun 28, 2005

Swanky said:
If this is the wrong board, move it to the right one.
http://forums.unrealplayground.com/showthread.php?p=401331#post401331
It goes to everyone, every single gamer and mapper.

aah, die UP leute bei ihrem lieblingshobby. "Warum hasse ich NC so sehr!"
Sobald diese kinder erwachsen werden und lernen, dass worte einem nicht verletzen können werden sie es verstehen. Bis dahin kann man seinen spaß mit diesen menschen haben und sie verbal zu so vielen dummen sachen verleiten, dass man am abend mit einem guten gefühl im bauch schlafen geht

Swanky · Jun 28, 2005

Balton, du hast NIX kapiert. Komischerweise glaubten auch die von UP daran, dass sie besser seien und zu einer anderen Community gehören würden - stimmt nunmal aber nicht.

To everyone else: You always think UP and NC are two different communities because they visit different inet sites. You are WRONG. You play the same game, play the same maps, share the same opinions about most of the same things. Different community? Ridiculous.

Chrysaor · Jun 28, 2005

I like both sites, but they are a bit different. NC is usually too good for UP, or atleast has that attitude. You can't market yourself as the best mapping site unless your members think they are the best.

But what does that have to do with rating two different ways? Well NC has always leaned far from the funnel/sniper maps, as you called them or the andAction maps as we might know them here, and towards the "real" efforts, whereas UP is more accepting of the funnel/sniper maps.

Kantham · Jun 28, 2005

but the people and style are alot different. Somme people move from here to there. while other hate nalicity. And other hate UP. I like both and submit on both.

XepptizZ · Jun 28, 2005

Most peeps upload them whereever possible to get there map out to the world.

The biggest difference between these two site are the rating system. UP doesn't do userratings, NC does. And that's what deviding people in the long run.

Balton · Jun 28, 2005

Swanky said:
Balton, du hast NIX kapiert. Komischerweise glaubten auch die von UP daran, dass sie besser seien und zu einer anderen Community gehören würden - stimmt nunmal aber nicht.

let me explain again, do you see people on nc bad mouthing up?
and then some UPers are talking about offensive user comments and bad community. If they weren't so keen on having a scapegoat in the mapping community (

) they'd actually give the system a try and might learn to ignore the bad apples that like to joke. They shouldn't be offended by messages dumb people write on the internet, it's not serious business.
this side of the community is pretty open as I see it.
now don't do that damn weastcoast-eastcoast crap homie

btw. this isn't actually an important issue, is it?

Manticore · Jun 28, 2005

I don't like flamewars and if someone's behaviour gets to be too much there is always the ignore lists; at least on these boards.....

............and have a nice day.

RichyB · Jun 28, 2005

XepptizZ said:
Most peeps upload them whereever possible to get there map out to the world.

The biggest difference between these two site are the rating system. UP doesn't do userratings, NC does. And that's what deviding people in the long run.

This is what i do i upload my map to as manny places and the more places the more people will see my map.

This site has not reveiwed one of my maps while unrealplayground reveiwes my maps Frequently . So i quess that site is helping me more.

ReD_Fist · Jun 28, 2005

Well
I requested that silly map headake,and the dude here insists on reviewing everything he sees on his listorama.
I will never agree with such rediculas logic there,hell go chop off your hands,cause it said so lol.................

Oh sure enough it ended up on mapraider,and several other places,cause they all point to nalicity,however after all the lame freaks bashing the poor foamy gal mapper guy,gal this weekend,but then soak up a review spot up there with that map,it's like DUH fricking DUH
So nalicity is wich,kiddy comments cause thier all so cool and killer mappers to slam that guys maps,OR post a review of the lamest map ever wich is soaking up a good spot,(plus my map is gonna get pushed off next grrrr) to show off all the quality everybody was slamming the foamy about .

Man they got to take that F-ing map off of there,aaaaaaaaaghghgh,it's givin me a "headake"

MassChAoS · Jun 29, 2005

It would be smarter not to request stupid reviews, eh Redfist?

Balton · Jun 29, 2005

MassChAoS said:
It would be smarter not to request stupid reviews, eh Redfist?

you understood what he said?

ArcadiaVincennes · Jun 29, 2005

ReD_Fist said:
Well
I requested that silly map headake,and the dude here insists on reviewing everything he sees on his listorama.
I will never agree with such rediculas logic there,hell go chop off your hands,cause it said so lol.................

It's okay to mention me by name...
You don't have to agree with it. Just don't abuse it. Like you did with Headake.

ReD_Fist said:
OR post a review of the lamest map ever wich is soaking up a good spot,(plus my map is gonna get pushed off next grrrr)

That's your own fault. You requested the review.

Look - no one else has complained about me paying attention to my list. Your complaint/criticism has been heard and responded to. If the community in general wanted me to do otherwise, they should say something about it.
If reviewers aren't supposed to pay attention to their lists, then they shouldn't exist in the first place.

You yourself said that part of a reviewer's job is to go find old maps that are good that got passed by. That's great, but we have personal requests, and hundreds of general map review requests. Why don't you use the fact that I pay attention to my list, go find some old maps that are good, and request that I review them.

That would be much more productive than requesting a map like Headake just to see if I'll actually ignore something. If you continue to request maps like Headake from me, I'll decline all review requests I get from you.

Look - I know you have a problem with how I choose to review maps. But we've addressed this before I thought we came to an understanding that we'll agree to disagree. And if the community wants me to do it differently, then I will. As long as it's just you, I'm not going to change. And trying to force me to by requesting maps such as Headake isn't going to do it.
Red_Fist, can we put down this issue once and for all?

ReD_Fist · Jun 29, 2005

Well don't worry,I won't pick any requests ever again,your doing fine with reviews.
The other websites ,accept insite,have that list updated from nalicity,i don't see why others don't say anything,it is a highly coveted list .
Now insite goes to far the other way,mapraider collects maps from anyone who sends them,but no reviews,or rarely comments.

Look at richyB comment I bet he would rather have headakes spot.

and this guy
and on another map some ctf map in the comments list this guy
:[lol]:Squid75
06-19-2005 11:33 PM EDT Rating: 0
Welp, I just wanted to see, and as I see it, this map sat in review que no longer than 18 or so days since today is the 19th. I have a map for over 1 year or so....you know what never mind, i give up on nalicity....Yous guys suck

I bet he would like headakes spot too.

anyway,it's good there are reviewers,regardless

good day...........

ArcadiaVincennes · Jun 29, 2005

ReD_Fist said:
Well don't worry,I won't pick any requests ever again,your doing fine with reviews.

Please don't stop requesting reviews in general

ReD_Fist said:
The other websites ,accept insite,have that list updated from nalicity,i don't see why others don't say anything,it is a highly coveted list .

Ours is.... a bit longer than theirs. In theory I agree with you and I think it's a good thing to do. In execution for NaliCity, I don't think it's a good idea simply for the size of it. Plus, hasn't there already been a thread about that somewhere here?

ReD_Fist · Jun 29, 2005

I don't quite follow you there,I mean to say the other sites automaticaly tie in to nalicity,and the same list appears on thier websites.And they also tie in automaticaly and grab the actual map when they end up in the review column.

And what I mean about others not saying anything (accept me of course),is about how nalicity picks the levels for review.

ArcadiaVincennes · Jun 29, 2005

ReD_Fist said:
I don't quite follow you there,I mean to say the other sites automaticaly tie in to nalicity,and the same list appears on thier websites.And they also tie in automaticaly and grab the actual map when they end up in the review column.

Sorry - I was unclear here. I was not referring to other sites grabbing maps/links/etc... from NaliCity. I was referring to a public review queue.

ReD_Fist said:
And what I mean about others not saying anything (accept me of course),is about how nalicity picks the levels for review.

Right - well, we talked about that already. Users and authors pick which maps they want reviewed, and the reviewers satisfy the requests. There's the general review queue, and a reviewer-specific queue. I review from my queue until it's empty, then I pick from the general queue. Other reviewers do it differently.

Twrecks · Jul 1, 2005

NCreviewers are free to review ANY MAP they choose (that hasn't been reviewed or on another reviewer's list, duh).
<pirate accent>
Arr... The Que is really just more of a guideline.
</pirate accent>

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