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edhe
9th May 2005, 07:34 AM
UT2k7 :rolleyes:

Let's hope it changes ;)

SharKTanK
9th May 2005, 07:45 AM
lol

Bazzi
9th May 2005, 07:48 AM
Well, it's still at least 12 months away....... plenty of time for name changes!

Unreality
9th May 2005, 07:48 AM
i hope so its such a stupid name :mad: no offense to people who like it

Bot_40
9th May 2005, 07:53 AM
Yeah, I vote everyone starts or continues to call it UT3, then maybe they will learn we don't want some crappy yearly name :p

Go&nd
9th May 2005, 07:54 AM
Just in case someone from Epic checks this forum... I don't like the UT200X naming scheme either.

(Not that I think it's the most important thing in the world, but still...)

NeoNite
9th May 2005, 09:27 AM
This seriously sucks :-/

Temporarily, or not...

captainrad
9th May 2005, 09:36 AM
who cares what its called... its gunna be great.. thats what matters
even though i find ut2007 more refreshing than envy... im just trying to force my opinion secretly ;)

NeoNite
9th May 2005, 09:41 AM
"Who cares what it's called"..

Obviously there are people who do care :con:
=p

:D



It's the name of the game. I think that's very important.
NOT nearly as important as the game itself, the gameplay etc.. nah... course not!
But still...

Steelixx
9th May 2005, 09:45 AM
yepp i dont care about names it's the content that matters

edhe
9th May 2005, 09:54 AM
Indeed, Book's story > Book's Cover, but they said they were dropping that naming convention... doh.

Israphel
9th May 2005, 09:55 AM
Bad decision, the name matters a lot.

I love UT2k4 (the game) but there are a lot of people who went off it around UT2k3 and didn't move onto ut2k4.
Continuing the 2kx name convention is unlikely to bring those people back, or attract anyone who didn't like the UT2kx games as it will give people the impression that the game is just an upgrade on the old, rather than an all new game.

Epic need to try to communicate that this is an all new game with a new engine and a new gameplay, and the best way to do that is with a name that signifies this.
It should be UT3. Nothing else.

Zur
9th May 2005, 10:02 AM
Unreal Transformagration ... that sounds different :P .

BooGiTyBoY
9th May 2005, 10:03 AM
Wouldn't it be UT4 in that case...

1) UT
2) UT2k3
3) UT2k4
4) UT2007

daloonie
9th May 2005, 10:05 AM
Nope 3 ;)

UT99 = UT1
UT'03 = UT2
UT'04 = UT2.5
UT3 is next in line.
This is based on the engine and UT2k4 as far as I remember is 2.5 ;)

The_Head
9th May 2005, 10:08 AM
Book's story > Book's Cover
You just hit the nail on the head. are you going to play the game and decide it sucks because it is called something you dont like. No didn't think so.....
Although I would prefer a new name other than UT200X, votes for UT3

BooGiTyBoY
9th May 2005, 10:14 AM
Nope 3 ;)

UT99 = UT1
UT'03 = UT2
UT'04 = UT2.5
UT3 is next in line.
This is based on the engine and UT2k4 as far as I remember is 2.5 ;)


Is it the fourth game?

Yes... it is...

therefore...

UT4. :D


This 2.5 crap is a fanboi technicality I refuse to accept. lol ;)

Steelixx
9th May 2005, 10:23 AM
UT4 sound cool :)

Sir_Brizz
9th May 2005, 11:10 AM
Is it the fourth game?

Yes... it is...

therefore...

UT4. :D


This 2.5 crap is a fanboi technicality I refuse to accept. lol ;)
What would you call software that is 75% the previous game, 25% new content, plays almost identically and only adds a few maps/gamemodes?

I call it an expansion pack :p

In fact, I got it for $29.99, which is how much every expansion pack costs these days.

Twisted Metal
9th May 2005, 11:17 AM
The UT200X name is retarded because it just means that the game will be replaced with a newer version/year eventually, so it's really a temporary game rather than a unique game. I hate that... They need to make the series different enough so that we can play older versions without feeling like we're playing the same game. According to what I've read they built this new engine from scratch and the emphasis was on being brand new and having a different feel. The title is just the opposite of that and gives the message "This is UT2004 with more features and prettier graphics"...

I guess it's no big deal, as long as the gameplay is something new and not recycled.

NiteX
9th May 2005, 11:21 AM
I agree, at first I was just accepting the 200X names and was trying to get use to them. They arent really all that catchy. I much rather the game be called UT3. But like I said before some where on this forum. They already started the 200X names it wouldn't really add up to end it. It would confuse noobs. People would think 2004 was UT3.

edhe
9th May 2005, 11:24 AM
it was a correction, ashamedly they couldn't create a time machine and go back to swap 2k3 with 2k4 so they just sold it instead.

]SideWinder[
9th May 2005, 11:45 AM
Frankly, I dont care what they call it.

it could be called "Unreal Sh!t in a freekin box tournament 22XX!!11" and ied still buy it. All this meens now is I have to update my avatar to say UT2K7

Selerox
9th May 2005, 12:32 PM
The new UT's only just been announced and already we have a public relations disaster. Wonderful. Epic need to get a ****ing clue.

I refuse to call this game anything other than UT3.

SirYawnalot
9th May 2005, 12:34 PM
I don't get where this UT3 stuff is coming from. UT2004 doubled UT2003's content, I don't call that an expansion pack... and naming a game after an engine is dumb.

:edit: And don't forget that at E3 a few years back it was "officially revealed" that the next Unreal game would be called Unreal Episode 2. They changed it again a couple of months later.

SharKTanK
9th May 2005, 12:36 PM
I refuse to call this game anything other than UT3.

Why?

People need to get over the fact that it's not going to be called UT3. Stop raving like fanboys about how Epic/Midway/Whoever are dipsh*ts because they decided to carry on with the 200* routine and just hope the game will be good.
Honestly...

Edit: This isn't a direct snipe at you Sel, It just amazes me how people can get so annoyed about something as trivial as a game's name :/

SanitysEdge
9th May 2005, 12:41 PM
Here are my thoughts on the subject:
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showpost.php?p=1807751&postcount=3
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showpost.php?p=1808231&postcount=38
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showpost.php?p=1808227&postcount=65

Renegade Retard
9th May 2005, 12:45 PM
First, I personally don't care what the name is. The can call it UT: Load of Crap and I'd still buy it.

Second, it's true that the name doesn't change what's inside the game...

...BUT...

....from a marketing/sales point of view, the name is everything. On any new product, there are people paid to do analysis and research on what name to be used. The perfect name can boost a sub-par product, and a poor name can kill a quality product.

Example - in my company, we had a new product that we were about to release. The new CEO decided that he wanted to name the product, contrary to what the Marketing team had suggested. The product did very poorly, and we almost discontinued it. The Marketing team convinced the CEO to change the name, and now the product is one of our better sellers.

The name is the products very first advertisement, and you MUST choose a name that grabs your target audience and conveys the message of content to get them to buy.

]SideWinder[
9th May 2005, 12:54 PM
I refuse to call this game anything other than UT3.
jesus dude, get over you self. This fan boy OMGZ I TEH HATEZ DA 200X SH!T, AND I WILL NEVER EVER EVER CALL IT UT2007!!!11 bullsh' has gone on long enough. Face it, its going to be UT2007. But I guess this is to be expected. When they were calling it envy there were people refusing to call it that too.

[DF]phalanx
9th May 2005, 12:55 PM
should name it after editor builds
UT4 it would be BUT if you look at the filing system for maps .ut2 for ut2004
i would callit UT07 personally afterall UT99 isn't the 99th UT game is it :p
maybe if they put a storyline in it for single player (would be great unreal 1 style single player hint hint wink wink) then maybe they could come up with a name

AntiMatter
9th May 2005, 01:11 PM
UT2k7

Let's hope it changes

/signed ;)

SirYawnalot
9th May 2005, 01:11 PM
...naming a game after an engine is dumb.

Also, a few IRC quotes that might get across the problem that people have about the yearly naming convention...

<[FtUC]Vertigo> no no, let me explain
<SharKTanK[FtUC]> go for it
<[FtUC]Vertigo> UT1 was a dirty, industrial sci-fi shooter
<[FtUC]Vertigo> UT2003 ditched all such elements, including a backstory, and went for trying to sit on the shelf next to FIFA 2003
<[FtUC]Vertigo> the fact that they're keeping the sports convention is a bad sign about Epic's view of the game
<SharKTanK[FtUC]> yeah, I agree mostly
<SharKTanK[FtUC]> I'm trying to get out my feelings into words
<SharKTanK[FtUC]> thing is... I didn't dislike the sports-ish theme
<SharKTanK[FtUC]> so long as it was set into the future, with alien races and corrupt governments
<[FtUC]Vertigo> well if you feel like a player in a far-future sport then that would be excellent, i would be hooked
<[FtUC]Vertigo> the problem is that it [UT2003] feels like playing a sports game set in the far future
<[FtUC]Vertigo> no personal involvement
<[FtUC]Vertigo> no real game, just a set of programming rules to abide to
<[FtUC]Vertigo> more simplistically, it's called UT2007 when if they had the right attitude it would be UT2341 :P (or whenever)
<SharKTanK[FtUC]> yeah, I definately agree with that
...
<SharKTanK[FtUC]> I'm not bothered about the decision to call it UT2007
<[FtUC]Vertigo> yeah, the name in itself means nothing
<[FtUC]Vertigo> it's just a bad sign

Go&nd
9th May 2005, 03:34 PM
Ah!

<[FtUC]Vertigo> UT1 was a dirty, industrial sci-fi shooter
<[FtUC]Vertigo> UT2003 ditched all such elements, including a backstory, and went for trying to sit on the shelf next to FIFA 2003
<[FtUC]Vertigo> the fact that they're keeping the sports convention is a bad sign about Epic's view of the game

<SharKTanK[FtUC]> yeah, I agree mostly
Here's what I wrote in another thread:

Load the original UT. Watch the intro flyby again. What are the first images? A dingy urban scene with trash plastered to cracked concrete walls; a ghetto barrel burning; the fire escape ladders and stairs of an inner-city projects building.

Then when you hit escape, you're presented with the original Unreal Tournament desktop: the sharp & jagged letters for Unreal Tournament cut into a rusted and worn backdrop.

And what accompanies these gritty scenes? Slower, more muted and menacing music which emphasizes atmosphere over pomp.

The world of the original UT was something more akin to Blade Runner or Neuromancer. It was a dark and gritty cyberpunk world rich with atmosphere.

The shift to the sporting-franchise naming convention reminds me too much of my distinct disappointment with UT2003 and the apparent shift to a world which more closely resembles a cheesy and bombastic WWF promotional video.

Some people seem to think I'm favoring more "realism" by taking this stance. That's not the case at all; it's just a very different flavor for the Unreal universe -- a more rich and distinct flavor which more accurately represents the original Unreal and the original Unreal Tournament.

I have nothing against variety and fantasy within the Unreal universe.

Taleweaver
9th May 2005, 03:38 PM
First, I personally don't care what the name is. The can call it UT: Load of Crap and I'd still buy it.

Second, it's true that the name doesn't change what's inside the game...

...BUT...

....from a marketing/sales point of view, the name is everything. On any new product, there are people paid to do analysis and research on what name to be used. The perfect name can boost a sub-par product, and a poor name can kill a quality product.

Example - in my company, we had a new product that we were about to release. The new CEO decided that he wanted to name the product, contrary to what the Marketing team had suggested. The product did very poorly, and we almost discontinued it. The Marketing team convinced the CEO to change the name, and now the product is one of our better sellers.

The name is the products very first advertisement, and you MUST choose a name that grabs your target audience and conveys the message of content to get them to buy.
I understand what you mean, but not how this makes Epic/Midway marketing guys to stick with the 200x naming convention. I'm a n00b in marketing, but from my point of view I see the following:

Disadvantages of the 200x naming convention:
-harder to pronounce (Do you say "You Tee Two Thousand and Four" a lot? I always say "You Tee" to keep it brief)
-it doesn't come out every year, like the FIFA series
-it has absolutely nothing to do with the storyline

Neutral:
-The majority of the current community doesn't like it. This is neutral since they'll still be complaining after they have bought it ;)

Advantages of the 200x naming convention:
-?

Can anyone with some marketing studies point out what I'm missing here?
Are new players really more likely to buy UT2007 instead of UT4? Does it allow to make better-looking logo's?
Or is UT2007 just the name the current chief CEO liked the most? ;)

Sir_Brizz
9th May 2005, 03:54 PM
Ah!


Here's what I wrote in another thread:

Load the original UT. Watch the intro flyby again. What are the first images? A dingy urban scene with trash plastered to cracked concrete walls; a ghetto barrel burning; the fire escape ladders and stairs of an inner-city projects building.

Then when you hit escape, you're presented with the original Unreal Tournament desktop: the sharp & jagged letters for Unreal Tournament cut into a rusted and worn backdrop.

And what accompanies these gritty scenes? Slower, more muted and menacing music which emphasizes atmosphere over pomp.

The world of the original UT was something more akin to Blade Runner or Neuromancer. It was a dark and gritty cyberpunk world rich with atmosphere.

The shift to the sporting-franchise naming convention reminds me too much of my distinct disappointment with UT2003 and the apparent shift to a world which more closely resembles a cheesy and bombastic WWF promotional video.

Some people seem to think I'm favoring more "realism" by taking this stance. That's not the case at all; it's just a very different flavor for the Unreal universe -- a more rich and distinct flavor which more accurately represents the original Unreal and the original Unreal Tournament.

I have nothing against variety and fantasy within the Unreal universe.
It fits with the storyline just fine. Have you listened to the woman in the UT intro? Because it was the subsequence of events leading from the NEG approving the tournaments that lead to a universe ultimately governed by a mining coporation who enters contestants into the tournament.

Go&nd
9th May 2005, 04:02 PM
I'm not quite sure what you're saying. Regardless of the story, I'm referring to the flavor and atmosphere of the universe in which that story takes place.

Capt.Toilet
9th May 2005, 04:07 PM
Or heres a better idea, when the demo is released download the mutha and see for yourself if it sucks or not. VIOLA, you just saved yourself 50 bucks its so amazing :rolleyes:

As stated in another thread, i could care less what the name is, as long as it has that UT feel with the gameplay to boot. Yes a good name can be good in advertising(thing Unreal Tournament Bloodlust, yeah that will get a few units sold), but heed the above advice and all your answers will be solved.

Ignotium
9th May 2005, 04:18 PM
Is it the fourth game?

Yes... it is...

therefore...

UT4. :D


This 2.5 crap is a fanboi technicality I refuse to accept. lol ;)

UT3


Disadvantages of the 200x naming convention:
-it doesn't come out every year, like the FIFA series
-it has absolutely nothing to do with the storyline

YES YES YES YES YES
you stole the words out of my mouth
WTF is the fukin 2003, 2004 or 2007 or 200w/e for?
The frggin game is supossed to take place in the year (don't know) 2456...

is the most ABSURD thing tha game has

the name shoulb be more UC2 oriented like, you don't see Need for Speed 1997, or Half-Life 2939, BUT you DO see Battlefield 1942, that's logic

I just hope it's not too late to change the name, with that of registering the trademark and etc..

Syri
9th May 2005, 04:29 PM
SideWinder[']jesus dude, get over you self. This fan boy OMGZ I TEH HATEZ DA 200X SH!T, AND I WILL NEVER EVER EVER CALL IT UT2007!!!11 bullsh' has gone on long enough. Face it, its going to be UT2007. But I guess this is to be expected. When they were calling it envy there were people refusing to call it that too.
fanboys are people who blindly defend the decisions of the company creating the product. therefore, you're the fanboy, not selerox :)

the ut200x naming convention really sucks, it says "this is a game that tries to be a sports game, it will be replaced in a year or 2 with the next in the series, at which point we want all you minions, um, i mean customers to buy the new year's version and play that instead"
now, a name like UT Envy i like personally, as it says "this is a game, it's from the same stable as UT, but it's new, it's shiny, it's got it's own thing going on. there may be others in future, probably will be, but hey, this is still a game in it's own right too!"

Mr.Magnetichead
9th May 2005, 04:45 PM
They say they want to get away from the sports feel and yet they call it ut2007 and use the same logo as ut2003 and 4...

Renegade Retard
9th May 2005, 04:57 PM
I understand what you mean, but not how this makes Epic/Midway marketing guys to stick with the 200x naming convention. I'm a n00b in marketing, but from my point of view I see the following:

Notice, in my post, I didn't mention which way I thought was better. I was simply stating the fact that the naming is important. Whatever name that's included on the box had better be right, or it's going to kill sales.

The name of the game is NOT aimed to attract us (those already aware of the UT universe), but those who are NOT familiar with the game. The name is important to strike their interest in the game. If Epic feels that the 200X convention is best for drawing NEW players, then so be it. If not, then they're making a mistake.

]SideWinder[
9th May 2005, 04:58 PM
fanboys are people who blindly defend the decisions of the company creating the product. therefore, you're the fanboy, not selerox

Don't be so hasty here. I could care less, as I stated, what the game is called. Just so long as the game is good. Selerox on the other hand, as like much of the other members of this forum, are nearly tossed in to a fit of rage at the idea that the new UT is going to be called UT2007. Why is this? Because it has a horrible reminder of the 200X games before it. The 200X games were like acid to the face of there beloved UT99. I could care less, but selerox and others like him are repulsed by the idea.

Im not defending anything, except the fact that im not defening anything. Those who are up in arms about the name are the ones defending, there defending there old school roots because of the newschool games that they were unsatisfied with.

OOH NOOSE, I LOOOOOOTHED 2K3 AND OOOOOH MAN WAS 2K4 TOTALY NOT ITS OWN GAME SO IT DOSN'T EVEN COUNT, AND NOW TO TOP IT ALL OFF EIPIC IS SOOOOO TOOTALY NAMING THE NEW UT UNREAL TOURNEMENT 2007, WHICH ONLY REMINDS ME OF HOW MUCH I LOOOOOOOTH 2K3 AND HOW MUCH I DISLIKED 2K4 FOR IT NOT BEING A FULL AND COMPLETE GAME! OH LORD WHY MUST THEY DO THIS TO ME, IM SO TOTALY NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS GAME AT ALL WHEN IT COMES OUT BECAUSE I TOTALY DONT LIKE THE GAMES BEFORE IT!

seriously cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

Bazzi
9th May 2005, 04:58 PM
I think they drunk too much of them alcolohs ;)

Maybe they will start reasoning sometime soon.

Selerox
9th May 2005, 05:29 PM
SideWinder[']Selerox on the other hand, as like much of the other members of this forum, are nearly tossed in to a fit of rage at the idea that the new UT is going to be called UT2007. Why is this? Because it has a horrible reminder of the 200X games before it. The 200X games were like acid to the face of there beloved UT99. I could care less, but selerox and others like him are repulsed by the idea.

I play UT2004 every single day of the week. Ditto UT2003. I also played UT since the original demo. So am I some fanatic of the original UT? Not really. I loved the original UT, but it's time had passed, so I adapted and moved on. However, I think the fact that fact that the new UT is including some of the gameplay elements from the original UT, as well as tweaked UT200X is a good thing overall.

The reason I don't like the idea of the name UT2007 for the new game isn't because it reminds me of the UT200X serires, but because it reminds the non-UT players of it. For all it's positives (and it has many of them), the UT200x games had a few fairly major flaws that put off a lot of possible players (UT2003 more than UT2004 admittedly). UT2003 really wasn't a great game in terms of features and playability (by that meaning reliability and bugs), it was also way ahead of the tech curve. It was a big disapointment to many inside and outside the UT community, and it's overall public image took a beating.

Epic state they want a fresh start with the new UT, where they can erase the mistakes that Epic have openly admitted they made on UT200X. They also admitted that the sports style thing really didn't go down well with anyone. Why not wipe the slate clean and head for a seperate naming system, as most people expected -and a significant number wanted- by which I mean UT2/3/4 (depending on your definitions on wether you count UT2003 or the UT200X series at all, some people don't). The fact that they chose the UT2007 name, ties the negative public image to the game that it inherited from UT2003. It's not exactly indictative of starting over is it? A return to simple numbered sequels would give a far better idea of the age of the series as well. UT2007 gives no idea of how long the series has been around, and so doesn't make it sound as "established" as maybe it should. A name such as UT4 makes the game appear (rightly) to be a long-standing series with a reputation. UT2007 simply doesn't, especially as many new players may not know about the UT series, and so simply won't know how long the game's been around. A game name that gives the impression of being an "insitiution" gives a far better image than a relativly "faceless" dated game.

It's one of the reaons the xbox360 got it's name. It would have been a straight fight between PS3 and Xbox2, but Microsoft marketing believed that the added "gravitas" for want of a batter word, of the PlayStation's longer series could impact negativly on sales. Subconciously, people see a 3rd generation console being better than a 2nd gen one (3>2). So Microsoft went the route of naming the new xbox the xbox360, thus including the "3" part to match the PS3, and in effect sidestepping the PS3's appeal of being the most established console series. That is smart marketing. Epic/Midway haven't grapsed the concept. Let's hope the future publicity budget for the next UT is bigger (and better used) than the one for UT200X.

Damn, I'm in the wrong career here...

]SideWinder[
9th May 2005, 05:45 PM
(long long long post)

Well im deffinitly glad that you made an intelligent post. Pluss I can see where your coming from now. If only people on forums and the internet as a whole were as well written as that.

But can you agree that all this fuss over a game name is allmost redicules? I meen I can understand if theres some kind of game element that set off this kind of reaction. But a name? Too me its like be offerd a Ferrari Enzo and complaining that its the color blue.

shadow_dragon
9th May 2005, 05:49 PM
I play UT2004 every single day of the week. Ditto UT2003. I also played UT since the original demo. So am I some fanatic of the original UT? Not really. I loved the original UT, but it's time had passed, so I adapted and moved on. However, I think the fact that fact that the new UT is including some of the gameplay elements from the original UT, as well as tweaked UT200X is a good thing overall.... (ETC + Fair points!)
You forget though that to name it UT3 or UT4 would be just as confusing, they would register to some as very simlar to UT2003 or UT2004. They end in 3 and 4, so, as you say the mind registers them. If UT3/4 came out it'd be confused.
I'm fairly certain that's their thoughts as far as marketing goes.

Either way, i remember at the beginning, the only reason people were so upset about the UT200X name was that ti suggested that UT would be released ona yearly basis and people feared for the standard of future games. This fear was clearly unfounded now as no UT2k5 or 6 will ever be released.
So i'd say i'mn to that bothered about the name.

I do believe UT3/4 would confuse people and UT5 more so... they started the 200X and now they will have to finish it i believe. I could be wrong but it makes sense to me kinda.

Selerox
9th May 2005, 06:05 PM
You forget though that to name it UT3 or UT4 would be just as confusing, they would register to some as very simlar to UT2003 or UT2004. They end in 3 and 4, so, as you say the mind registers them. If UT3/4 came out it'd be confused.
I'm fairly certain that's their thoughts as far as marketing goes.

Either way, i remember at the beginning, the only reason people were so upset about the UT200X name was that ti suggested that UT would be released ona yearly basis and people feared for the standard of future games. This fear was clearly unfounded now as no UT2k5 or 6 will ever be released.

If you're not going to do them every year, then why on earth do dated naming? Simply do it sequentially. As for the UT3/UT2003 confusion, I don't think that would be a problem. Gamers are't that stupid :)

]SideWinder[ - I was a little too angry earlier to be quite that coherant. The reason I got (and still am) worked up about it is because it could be a cause of negative public image to do with the game. What I care about is that the next UT is popular and brings in a whole generation of new players. In that respect, my aims and Epic/Midway's are exactly the game. Epic/Midway gets more revenue from the game, we get an expanded community, the new players get a great new game. Evereyone wins. Every little helps, and the name of the game (if you'll excuse the pun) is much more important than you might think. If Epic/Midway make a mistake with the name and due to that relays a less than optimum public image of the game (the overall fiasco relating to UT2003 is still a sticking point), then it's bad for all of us. It's nice to know ssomeone thinks my posts are (sometimes) intelligent though, at least when I'm not in "Angel of Vengeance" mode :)

carmatic
9th May 2005, 06:14 PM
hm, well, on the marketing point of view, do you think that enough people out there (i.e. not on these forums) know about unreal engine 3 as well as they know about the next UT? if the engine is well known , then naming the game to reflect the engine changes would be beneficial, but maybe not alot of people know about game engines and stuff....

also, i have gotten into the habit of calling the original UT , 'ut99' , and the ue2.5-based games 'ut2k3' and 'ut2k4' , so at least the naming convention is easy on me... maybe when we look back, we can think that games seperated by 1 year = same engine , games seperated by a couple of years = different engine... maybe that would end up making sense

Discord
9th May 2005, 06:20 PM
I gotta agree, this is one p00p decision.

If you passed over Unreal Tournament 2003 and didn't give Unreal Tournament 2004 a second glance, odds are you won't even notice that Unreal Tournament 2007 is a new and different product... you'll just think, "what's that Unreal Tourna- whatsis NumberNumberNumberNumber still doing on the shelf? Jeez, it hasn't come down a bit in price, either..."

That year thing just doesn't carry a bit of impact with it. Needs to have more Unreal Tournament This Game Is Going To Kick Your Ass And Make You Like It- ness to it. Jeez, if I can figure it out it can't be hard...

Unreality
9th May 2005, 07:46 PM
well i first found UT2007 a silly name now its slowly starting to come to my senses that its still 2 years till release or something like that i think a lot can happen in those years

togmkn
9th May 2005, 09:26 PM
i hope so its such a stupid name no offense to people who like it
I think sticking with the year/sequel name theme is a good idea. It's a pisser it's 2k7 though, I was hoping for something like "Unreal Tournament June 2005," or something like that. Yeah, I never really got the "Envy" thing, I like 2k7 better. Or maybe give it an alternate name, like Unreal II: The Awakening. I dunno what the sub-name would be, but it'd just be a good idea.

Krylon
9th May 2005, 09:43 PM
We're not trying to make a prettier UT2K4. We're really trying to make a very new game.I vote we completely forget about the Unreal Tournament trademark and just call it... Envy! :lol:

*EDIT*: Just in-case someone actually takes that seriously (which I wouldn't be surprised) that was sarcasm.

I don't mind the 2007. If they only made one UT per engine, I would say go with the engine number but since they're likely going to make another UT on UE3, calling it UT3 would probably be a bad idea.

O.S.T
9th May 2005, 09:54 PM
I can't be bothered to read the long posts, so maybe I repeat something

imo UT07 isn't bad, even though I would have prefered a name like UT:envy, because it would seperate the games more(UT07 will break with some traditions and will be different, that's why I think it's shouldn't stand in a line with UT03/04)

the reason why the game woun't be called UT3(or UT4, because it's the forth UT release) is because people could confuse it with UT03/04

sharpfish
10th May 2005, 02:27 AM
Didn't like the 2k3 moniker - Was disapointed to see them keep it up with 2k4 (even though the game was a bit better).. but 2k7? Apart from the stupid gap between "versions", it will, as has been stated put a lot of the people off who didn't bother with the 2k* UTS.

And more than that, this is a massive chance for epic to go for glory, they could have done it with a better title that would signify the apparently monumental changes (in both technology and gameplay).

Still.. it IS the game that matters at the end of the day - but what a missed oppurtunity to wipe the slate clean!

Kronon
10th May 2005, 03:45 AM
Lets just forget the (relatively) failures of UT2003 and UT2004, and name the new UT as it should be named: UT2. Or maybe Unreal Tournament: <something more here>, like Unreal Tournament: Envy.

UT2007 is so utterly boring, and makes you think of hockey games (although I like watching hockey).

Hopefully Envy will be a step back towards UT in terms of gameplay (atleast thats what Epic hints at), which would also make UT2 the better choise.

UT3 is stupid though and UT4 even more stupid :D

/Kronon

Black_Seeds
10th May 2005, 04:04 AM
The next UT is going to be the fourth UT made, therefore it would be logical to call it UT4, i actually dont mind and kind of like the whole UT07 name.

{DVS}..::KILLA::..
10th May 2005, 04:28 AM
Hey all, my 1st post... YAY..

Anyway... Who really gives a rats about the title of the bloody thing. I have been a big fan of the whole UT series and have recently got back into ut:GOTY. Personally, as long as the gameplay is good, i dont care if they call it hairy left testicle. I expect this to be the best of lot by a long way. Keeping loyal to the UT99 players, and giving us some new action.

Yeah thats my 5c

Sir_Brizz
10th May 2005, 08:56 AM
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NeoNite
10th May 2005, 10:26 AM
UT2007 is so utterly boring, and makes you think of hockey games (although I like watching hockey).



Quoted for truth.



UT3 is stupid though and UT4 even more stupid :D

/Kronon

Not nearly as bad as UT2007! ;-)

Btw, I think I remember you posting here... or was it on INA...
I'm not sure...

Steelixx
10th May 2005, 10:59 AM
I like the 200X names it sounds cool :)

Rankz
10th May 2005, 02:08 PM
The next series... UT2013????? I agree, they could have done better with the name, but remember that Epic wanted Unreal to be a sports game. So if they have their way, we will be seeing Ut2*** for some time to come.

BooGiTyBoY
10th May 2005, 02:56 PM
Man 3 pages so far + how many other threads about the 2007 name.

Umm... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Who the hell cares. You are all still going to buy it so stop bitching.

Am I also the ONLY one in existence that LIKED the whole televised bloodsport thing? (even though I myself HATE wrestling)

I've come to terms with the fact that this game started years ago and will evolve eventually into something very different which it is doing now.
I wonder if everyone on the Quake boards is having little panty-in-a-bunch-hissy-fits because they are naming the next game "Quake 4" OMG! How unoriginal of them!
:rolleyes:

Black_Seeds
10th May 2005, 03:21 PM
Not using a a 200X system seem stupid imo, pick a naming scheme, stick with it.

NeoNite
10th May 2005, 04:20 PM
Man 3 pages so far + how many other threads about the 2007 name.

Umm... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Who the hell cares. You are all still going to buy it so stop bitching.


:rolleyes:

Well, I personally I'm not so sure I'd buy that game no matter what...
Not yet, because it's still quite a while before it'll get released.
Heck, I didn't even buy UT2004 and I've survived.

Demo first. If the demo convinces me, I'll buy the game. I don't fall for the hype trap anymore.

Kronon
11th May 2005, 02:19 AM
Btw, I think I remember you posting here... or was it on INA...
I'm not sure...Yes, I am an oldtimer from INA, from the demo days in UT up until I was permanently banned for quoting someone who made a joke about sex toys or something :)

/Kronon

togmkn
12th May 2005, 05:40 PM
Look, my vacuum is called a Dirt Devil 3000. And it's only 2005! The 2007 name means nothing.

Nemephosis
12th May 2005, 07:57 PM
They could call it "Unreal Tournament: Double Trouble Crap on a Stick" and I'd still buy it. 'course, it'd be a little awkward asking for it in stores, but still.....

Nemephosis
12th May 2005, 08:10 PM
Gamers are't that stupid :)


http://ua.beyondunreal.com/staff/nem/smilies/lmao.gif

A lot of what I've seen the last few days sure as hell shows me otherwise.

SanitysEdge
12th May 2005, 08:14 PM
The next UT is going to be the fourth UT made, therefore it would be logical to call it UT4, i actually dont mind and kind of like the whole UT07 name.
UT3 Would also be logical since it uses Unreal Engine 3. The name coresponding to the engine version...

Xaero_UT
12th May 2005, 08:55 PM
Man 3 pages so far + how many other threads about the 2007 name.

Umm... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Who the hell cares. You are all still going to buy it so stop bitching.

Am I also the ONLY one in existence that LIKED the whole televised bloodsport thing? (even though I myself HATE wrestling)

I've come to terms with the fact that this game started years ago and will evolve eventually into something very different which it is doing now.
I wonder if everyone on the Quake boards is having little panty-in-a-bunch-hissy-fits because they are naming the next game "Quake 4" OMG! How unoriginal of them!
:rolleyes:

agreed...no matter what people say here, who wont buy the game cause of the name, how superficial would u be...

so when we all buy and play this rocking game, u will post on these forums "i was right, what a gay name, "

and we will all say "damn man u win" we play a great game (with possibly an not so impressive title) while u play nothing, who's worse off....
:lol:



to solve quake and ut's problems, just do the simple and lazy thing

quake tournament
unreal arena

*cough*


i dont care if they call it gay ass tournament 40,000 (though that would raise some questions, and when people ask what are u playing.....um..... :( )

i still buyz it

iron12
12th May 2005, 09:22 PM
who cares what its called... its gunna be great.. thats what matters
even though i find ut2007 more refreshing than envy... im just trying to force my opinion secretly ;)

Really.

Of all the things to worry about. :lol: